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Post by emotivauser102010 on Dec 26, 2010 14:49:26 GMT -5
I do not know if Emotiva wants such information posted here but it is useful info for owners. Please feel free to remove this thread.
Many had asked if XPA-1 can drive speakers with impedance below 4 ohms. Lonnie has responded with extremely useful information. I am reposting Lonnie's answers here.
PLEASE heed Lonnie/Emotiva's caution. Do not attempt anything dangerous. It will just ruin the experience for other owners if that causes Emotiva to clamp up its information flow.
SUMMARY - From Jul. 10th., 2008 by Lonnie: Power output: 500 WRMS into 8 ohms 1000 WRMS into 4 ohms 1350 WRMS into 3.2 ohms and we are not going to recommend this in any way shape or form but it will do 1.75K WRMS into 2 ohms (but you have to run 220 into it because a 110 v line will not supply enough juice).
THD+N is 0.00086% Frequency response is from 10-150Khz (-3db) and 20-20Khz (>0.1db)
Oct. 20th., 2008 - CAUTION by Lonnie Oh it [XPA-1] has no problem running at 2 ohm if you can get enough juice into the amp. But if your speakers dip down to 2 ohm, that is a cake walk for this beast.
We won't officially state it is 2 ohm stable (or post it's specs) because whatever impedance we state as the minimum, people will always want to push it and go even lower. So if we state 4 ohms and your speakers dip to 2, no problem. But if we were to state 2, I guarantee you many would want to run it at 1 ohm and you can't get enough juice (at least in a home) to support it.
For practical consideration, our XPA-1's drive Thiel CS3.7 and they have worked flawlessly for 2 months.
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Post by Porscheguy on Dec 26, 2010 17:22:04 GMT -5
How many people will ever encounter this.... ?
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Post by emotivauser102010 on Dec 26, 2010 18:25:10 GMT -5
The Thiel CS3.7 dips to 2.5 ohms in practice even though it is rated at 4-ohm nominal.
Some speakers with similar characteristics and specifications are those by Martin Logans, Vandersteen, Thiel and others.
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Post by xki on Mar 9, 2011 21:16:42 GMT -5
What experience did you encounter that compelled you to post? We, and I mean we as in all who are wondering, hope there was no damage but, honestly, what's up?
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Post by aboroth00 on Mar 9, 2011 23:57:09 GMT -5
I thought info is very useful. When your speakers dip into 2 ohms they require a truly 2 ohm stable amp to bring out its best. So if anyone wants a 2 ohm stable amp, they should really spring for the XPA-1 over the XPA-2.
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Post by strindl on Mar 10, 2011 1:46:04 GMT -5
I've been using my XPA-1's to drive a pair of Thiel 3.6's for over a year. The 3.6's are also a nominal 4 ohm load but dip down below 3 at certain frequencies. The XPA-1's sound great and never have a problem driving them.
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Post by wizardofoz on Apr 21, 2013 5:16:45 GMT -5
Finally found this with google's help....
I'm about to hook up a pair of 10" seas 4 ohm woofers in parallel and see what happens...I have them in series now and everything is fine....will see if i can cope with the heat...as ill probably be still in class A for most listening but there is no way to tell I guess when and if I get out of it.
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Post by davidas6350 on Apr 21, 2013 5:43:40 GMT -5
It says it's ok to dip down to 2 ohms but what you're about to do is actually connecting a 2 ohms load (4 ohms in parallel) which could possibly dip down to about 1 ohm or lower at certain frequencies. It's your gear if you wanna do this; make sure you let us know how it goes. Edit: You pretty much confirmed what Lonnie was saying about pushing it to go even lower if people have this info
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Post by garbulky on Apr 21, 2013 6:09:55 GMT -5
two 4 ohms will give you 2 ohms. But remember impedance changes and doesn't stay at a constant and will likely dip down lower. You're asking for trouble IMO. These values are meant for people with apogees and stuff.
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Post by garbulky on Apr 21, 2013 10:07:01 GMT -5
BTW this may explain why the XPA-1 (or was it 2) went into protection with axiom m80's on some occassions. (Now fixed). Because it was pushing so much freaking current the outlet simply couldn't provide it over 110V standard capacity outlets and therefore protection circuit shut it down over voltage sag or something like it. So not the amps fault then ;D I guess the axioms were used to amps that coughed and cried mummy and wasn't expecting actual amps with solid 2 ohm outputs to drive these things. NICE. Amazing 2 ohm output specs. 1.75 Kw with a still tremendously low THD showing the amp was still well within its limits. Incredibly underspec'd. Classic old-school Emotiva understatement! That gives you 3.5 KW in stereo. Very nice.
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