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Post by eirik84 on May 31, 2012 2:31:19 GMT -5
Im really looking forward to the release of the XPA-200! Any ideas of what we can expect? Im hoping for at least 2x150 watts in 8 ohms (2x250 watts in 4 ohms) and balanced inputs, and a pricetag $499
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Post by garbulky on May 31, 2012 3:38:37 GMT -5
Hehe. If only. The original UPA-2 did about 185Watts @4 ohms. I'm mainly hoping for truly balanced inputs and about a $50-100 increase in price if it's really balanced. And of course, the weight, power and distortion specs kept at least the same.
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Post by Topend on May 31, 2012 6:40:36 GMT -5
Should it read UPA-200, not XPA-200?
Dave.
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Post by eirik84 on May 31, 2012 6:45:43 GMT -5
Should it read UPA-200, not XPA-200? Dave. No, im talking about the XPA-200 wich are announced to be released later this year..
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Post by geebo on May 31, 2012 7:28:49 GMT -5
Wow, I don't remember hearing of that one. When and where was that announced? I might be very interested...
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Post by eirik84 on May 31, 2012 7:51:53 GMT -5
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Post by LCSeminole on May 31, 2012 8:43:45 GMT -5
Hehe. If only. The original UPA-2 did about 185Watts @4 ohms. I'm mainly hoping for truly balanced inputs and about a $50-100 increase in price if it's really balanced. And of course, the weight, power and distortion specs kept at least the same. You want XLR balanced inputs like the XPA series has, or you want it to be fully balanced like the XPA-1? If fully balanced, I doubt we see that at this point in their power amplifier line.
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Post by Topend on May 31, 2012 12:49:01 GMT -5
OK then, I would assume the XPA-200 is the replacement for the XPA-2 and should at least be equal in specs.
The XPA-2 is capable of 300w @ 4ohms. Maybe a fully balanced XPA-200 is a possibility. I can't see the price being reduced.
For an accurate answer it would be best to ask Dan.
Dave.
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Post by Entity on May 31, 2012 12:55:00 GMT -5
That's not how I read that. He said that the XPA-100 will be the replacement for the UPA-1. From that statement it doesn't sound like it's a replacement for the XPA-1. Since the XPA-200 was also thrown in at that point, I'm not sure that it's a replacement for the XPA-2.
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Post by Topend on May 31, 2012 14:02:57 GMT -5
That's not how I read that. He said that the XPA-100 will be the replacement for the UPA-1. From that statement it doesn't sound like it's a replacement for the XPA-1. Since the XPA-200 was also thrown in at that point, I'm not sure that it's a replacement for the XPA-2. Got it now, thanks. Dave.
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Post by eirik84 on May 31, 2012 14:11:21 GMT -5
That's not how I read that. He said that the XPA-100 will be the replacement for the UPA-1. From that statement it doesn't sound like it's a replacement for the XPA-1. Since the XPA-200 was also thrown in at that point, I'm not sure that it's a replacement for the XPA-2. Agree After all info I have read/heard from Emotiva, I can see this in mind: XPR-5 XPR-2 XPR-1 XPA-7 XPA-5 XPA-3 XPA-2 XPA-1 XPA-500 (not announced but maybe) XPA-200 XPA-100 UPA-700 UPA-500 UPA-200 UPA-100 All products above have been mentioned by Emotiva except the XPA-500..
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Post by eusebio on May 31, 2012 15:33:49 GMT -5
I am curious if the XPA-100 will be superior to the UPA-1. i would imagine the hierarchy would be XPA-1, XPA-100, UPA-1 & UPA-100
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Post by eirik84 on May 31, 2012 15:42:38 GMT -5
I am curious if the XPA-100 will be superior to the UPA-1. i would imagine the hierarchy would be XPA-1, XPA-100, UPA-1 & UPA-100 UPA-1 is discontinued So hierarchy will be: XPR-1 XPA-1 XPA-100 UPA-100
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Post by eusebio on May 31, 2012 15:47:17 GMT -5
I am curious if the XPA-100 will be superior to the UPA-1. i would imagine the hierarchy would be XPA-1, XPA-100, UPA-1 & UPA-100 UPA-1 is discontinued So hierarchy will be: XPR-1 XPA-1 XPA-100 UPA-100 i understand that. But assuming they were to continue producing the UPA-1, where would it rank amongst the other monoblocks?
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Post by garbulky on May 31, 2012 17:15:27 GMT -5
Hehe. If only. The original UPA-2 did about 185Watts @4 ohms. I'm mainly hoping for truly balanced inputs and about a $50-100 increase in price if it's really balanced. And of course, the weight, power and distortion specs kept at least the same. You want XLR balanced inputs like the XPA series has, or you want it to be fully balanced like the XPA-1? If fully balanced, I doubt we see that at this point in their power amplifier line. I'm talking about XPA-1 fully balanced. I understand that would be rather unrealistic. But it would make it really killer. BTW, is there any advantage to balanced of the regular xpa series (XPA-2,3,5) vs unbalanced?
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Post by Pauly on May 31, 2012 18:25:18 GMT -5
I am curious if the XPA-100 will be superior to the UPA-1. i would imagine the hierarchy would be XPA-1, XPA-100, UPA-1 & UPA-100 UPA-1 is discontinued So hierarchy will be: XPR-1 XPA-1 XPA-100 UPA-100 Not necessarily. Didn't Dan and Lonnie say that the XPA-1 will still be the SQ champ in the lineup? I'm sure there will be some people that say the XPR-1 sounds better, but some will also say that the XPA-1 is better. Much like the RPA-2 vs XPA-2.
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Post by roadrunner on May 31, 2012 18:54:16 GMT -5
You want XLR balanced inputs like the XPA series has, or you want it to be fully balanced like the XPA-1? If fully balanced, I doubt we see that at this point in their power amplifier line. I'm talking about XPA-1 fully balanced. I understand that would be rather unrealistic. But it would make it really killer. BTW, is there any advantage to balanced of the regular xpa series (XPA-2,3,5) vs unbalanced? Primarily, the only real advantage to a fully balanced power amp exists only if the entire signal path is fully balanced. When the entire signal path is balanced the advantage comes from the cancellation of noise coming from the two sections being 180 degrees out of phase with each other. You must keep in mind that a quality unbalanced power amp can be just a good as a balanced design. Basically, the fully balanced power amp is two identical amps connected 180 degrees out of phase in a single chassis. The expense involved in having the materials for two amps instead of one tends to make them very expensive to build, which means that only Flagship level amps are designed to be fully balanced. You will still have the advantage of a higher quality power amp even if the entire signal path is not balanced, simply because of the higher quality materials used to build it. You cannot use a balanced power amp to make poor quality components sound magically better. Garbage in garbage out holds true even with fully balanced designs.
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Post by Poodleluvr on May 31, 2012 21:05:02 GMT -5
To my understanding the XPA-1 is the only Emo amp that offers fully balanced, quad differential input stage,, and please note the "quad".
This is the first truly balanced amp design I've ever owned of which I use with other Emo truly balanced components, the XDA-1 until the debut of the XSP-1.
It will be interesting to see if the class H XPR-1 will be truly balanced with a quad differential input stage...
If not, I don't think I'll be upgrading soon and will just keep the XPA-1s in-use.
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Post by monkumonku on May 31, 2012 21:51:23 GMT -5
UPA-1 is discontinued So hierarchy will be: XPR-1 XPA-1 XPA-100 UPA-100 Not necessarily. Didn't Dan and Lonnie say that the XPA-1 will still be the SQ champ in the lineup? I'm sure there will be some people that say the XPR-1 sounds better, but some will also say that the XPA-1 is better. Much like the RPA-2 vs XPA-2. They can say what they want but the XPA-1 will be the champ and anything otherwise will just be sour grapes. ;D
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Post by eirik84 on Jun 1, 2012 3:19:57 GMT -5
If its true balanced or not isnt a big deal for me. Im planning to combine the XPA-200 with the new XDA-2 for a stereo-setup. It would be nice to use XLR from XDA to XPA-200, and have the rca-outputs on the XDA for the possibility to add a sub or two later
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