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Post by kevng26 on Mar 4, 2013 17:06:26 GMT -5
Hello fellow music lovers,
First time poster here so please come easy on me.
I have just recently got the XPA-200 and the XDA-2 to go with my pair of Martin Logan Source. Over the weekend, I plugged my laptop to the DAC and listened to a couple songs from my Café Del Mar collections. This is the type of music I like. It's more like ambient music. The music coming out of the ML Source was very rich, great depth. I felt like I was sitting in the middle of the stage and I can hear everything around me. That was incredible. Never experience anything like that in my life.
On one side of me, I have no complaint what so ever with my new amp/preamp. However, the other side of me is still not satisfy. I guess I'm still craving for a bit more treble in those songs. It almost like it isn't crisp enough on some notes.
Not sure if this is the nature of the Martin Logan's hybrid architecture on the Source or not.
Is there anyone out there who get the same feeling like I do when listening to the XPA-200 amp? Or is this the XDA-2 DAC?
Thanks and hope to hear from you all.
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Post by goat1981 on Mar 4, 2013 17:26:17 GMT -5
It could be your room...
I just moved my system, (see sig) which has a very extended high range, into a new house and different room; and all of a sudden it sounds quite dull (which wasn't the case in my old room). I am having to gently EQ the 5K - 20K region to temporarily 'fix' the problem. Hopefully, when I install the wall to make my listening room rectangular again, it will help the problem and I won't have to EQ anymore.
Has your system always lacked treble to your ears, or has this only occurred since you installed the XPA-200/XDA-2?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2013 17:48:47 GMT -5
Try jiggering with speaker position, maybe toe them in a bit and see if that helps...
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Post by DYohn on Mar 4, 2013 17:53:37 GMT -5
Yes. The most common cause for perceived insufficient high end is speakers with too narrow dispersion patterns and the listening position being off-axis. Try toe-in toward the listening position first.
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Post by knucklehead on Mar 4, 2013 18:54:27 GMT -5
Or just buy a pair of Klipsch RF-82's.
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Post by boomzilla on Mar 4, 2013 20:59:12 GMT -5
...I guess I'm still craving for a bit more treble... (cough, cough)... Tone controls
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Post by kevng26 on Mar 5, 2013 14:28:39 GMT -5
It could be your room... I just moved my system, (see sig) which has a very extended high range, into a new house and different room; and all of a sudden it sounds quite dull (which wasn't the case in my old room). I am having to gently EQ the 5K - 20K region to temporarily 'fix' the problem. Hopefully, when I install the wall to make my listening room rectangular again, it will help the problem and I won't have to EQ anymore. Has your system always lacked treble to your ears, or has this only occurred since you installed the XPA-200/XDA-2? My listening area isn't ideal. The system is in the living room with three walls and an open area to the kitchen. I have an older Sony surround sound receiver, DTR-G500. I used to listen to music from that Sony receiver. The treble coming out of that receiver is worse than the sound from my car stereo and I listened from both surround sound mode and the 2 channels mode. I notice that you have an equalizer in your system. Does that help improve the sound quality?
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Post by kevng26 on Mar 5, 2013 14:42:05 GMT -5
Try jiggering with speaker position, maybe toe them in a bit and see if that helps... -RW- Yep...tried that and also moved the speakers back and forth from the back wall but can't quite get to that high range.
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Post by kevng26 on Mar 5, 2013 14:47:42 GMT -5
...I guess I'm still craving for a bit more treble... (cough, cough)... Tone controls So I assume you are suggesting adding an equalizer?
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Post by kevng26 on Mar 5, 2013 14:59:14 GMT -5
Or just buy a pair of Klipsch RF-82's. If it comes down the speakers themselves then it will be really tough. The ML Source series are built with the electrostatic panel that can reflect the sound off the back wall (the wall immediately behind the speakers) in such a way that they add depth to the music. It's hard to describe unless you listen to them. I would not trade that for anything else. I was just hoping if I can improve on what already there.
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Post by kevng26 on Mar 7, 2013 8:42:35 GMT -5
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Post by KeithL on Mar 7, 2013 9:39:23 GMT -5
Since you say you were satisfied with the sound in your old home, then it seems like you are satisfied with the speakers themselves, and the rest of your system. Try increasing the "liveness" of the room, or decreasing the "deadness". (Add more reflective surfaces, or remove absorptive ones like carpeting; big fuzzy furniture is also VERY absorptive. Especially make sure that the wall behind the ML's is reflective and also somewhat diffuses the sound (textured paint or plaster should work well). This will make sure that a lot of that back-wave sound finds its way to your ears. (When you make changes like that, make sure that they are symmetrical - in a left to right direction.) Or just buy a pair of Klipsch RF-82's. If it comes down the speakers themselves then it will be really tough. The ML Source series are built with the electrostatic panel that can reflect the sound off the back wall (the wall immediately behind the speakers) in such a way that they add depth to the music. It's hard to describe unless you listen to them. I would not trade that for anything else. I was just hoping if I can improve on what already there.
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