to be more specific, i'd like the ability to create/edit playlists on the fly like you can on itunes or winamp. it would be great if their was an app that you could control with your tablet
I've not found a way to do that. It would be nice, however.
i currently use TViX Slim S1 media player and i am happy with it. I am able to user PlugPlayer on my IPad to create playlists and i can then play through my networked AV7005. I do wish that plugplayer had a more Jukebox feel to it and at times it can be buggy.
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Re: Oppo 95 as FLAC Music Server? « Reply #21 on Feb 17, 2012, 4:36pm »
That article on the comparison of FLAC v. WAV omits one very important factor, and it's not "the music's snap, grip and flow." FLAC decoding is dependent on the processing power of the hardware doing the decoding for not just the decoding, but also for the speed at which the decoding is done. There are FLAC files that my RockBoxed Sansa won't play, but my Oppo will. I'm not saying there isn't a difference between .wav and .flac files, but a real test would have to be blind, and vary the equipment being used to decode.
As for me, I have most of my tracks in FLAC, but I do have some WAV as well, and, not surprisingly, I've ripped my DVD-As to both stereo and surround FLAC.
Steve's HT: Pre/Pro: Emotiva UMC-1 Amp: Adcom GFA-7700 Front & Surrounds: JBL S38II Center: JBL S-Center II DVD/Blu-Ray/DVD-A/SACD: Oppo BDP-93 Turntable: Technics SL-D2 Cable/DVR: SA 8300HD TV: Sony KDS-60A2000 Sub: SVS PB12-NSD/2 (upgraded from ISD/2) Remote:Home Theater Master MX-850 LG N2A2DD2-NAS for music & movies
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I'll say it. There is no difference betwen wav and flac files, nor apple lossless either.
I have to disagree, my flatmate and I did blind tests on each other comparing Flac and Wav using the Oppo and we both picked wav as sounding better. Whether every one would come to that same conclusion I guess depends on their gear and their own ears.
Re: Oppo 95 as FLAC Music Server? « Reply #25 on Feb 20, 2012, 8:38pm »
Pops, I have the bdp-95 and would be very interested in what you come up with. I currently download from HD Tracks in limited quantities and rip recordings myself from vinyl, etc. I also purchase from Acoustic Sounds http://store.acousticsounds.com/ and Music Direct http://www.musicdirect.com/default.aspx? . But that is just vinyl or SACD.
Currently I am using a Logitech Squeezebox Touch. Wirelessly, it won't stay connected to the network. So I have it hard wired to my computer. If I could find a better way then I would dump the Squeezebox in a heartbeat. I also looked at Sonos, but too expensive in my opinion.
Roger
2-XPA-1 XDA-1 XRT-6.2 ERC-2 Parasound Halo C-2 Oppo BDP-95 Music Hall MMF-9.1 Micro Benz-Ebony Woo WA6-SE Headphone Amp PS Audio Digital Link III DAC Sennheiser HD-650 HiFiMan HE-500
I'll say it. There is no difference betwen wav and flac files, nor apple lossless either.
This is the correct answer, given that the FLAC file was created from the same WAV file in the first place, and is only a compressed version of the same source material. Hence, they will sound exactly the same. Same with lossless apple.
Re: Oppo 95 as FLAC Music Server? « Reply #27 on Feb 20, 2012, 9:51pm »
Roger,
Get yourself a USP-1 and run the analogs from the BDP-95 to it. You can run the USP-1 in bypass mode for home theater setups. That is what I do with my BDP-95.
Use the DACs in the BDP-95. That is why you spent an extra $500 on the player. If you just do digital out, a person should buy the BDP-93.
Pops, I have the bdp-95 and would be very interested in what you come up with. I currently download from HD Tracks in limited quantities and rip recordings myself from vinyl, etc. I also purchase from Acoustic Sounds http://store.acousticsounds.com/ and Music Direct http://www.musicdirect.com/default.aspx? . But that is just vinyl or SACD.
Currently I am using a Logitech Squeezebox Touch. Wirelessly, it won't stay connected to the network. So I have it hard wired to my computer. If I could find a better way then I would dump the Squeezebox in a heartbeat. I also looked at Sonos, but too expensive in my opinion.
Roger
2-XPA-1 XDA-1 XRT-6.2 ERC-2 Parasound Halo C-2 Oppo BDP-95 Music Hall MMF-9.1 Micro Benz-Ebony Woo WA6-SE Headphone Amp PS Audio Digital Link III DAC Sennheiser HD-650 HiFiMan HE-500
Re: Oppo 95 as FLAC Music Server? « Reply #28 on Feb 20, 2012, 10:52pm »
The BDP-95 arrived today. Nicely packaged. Player itself is wrapped in some kind of nylon/canvas carry bag!
I am playing a few CDs with it as we speak to learn it and burn it in. First three CDs sound pretty good!!
I bought a WD My Book 1TB Dual Drive to use as my FLAC/Music file server. Connecting it via Firewire 800 to my Mac for initial setup.
An e-sata cable arrives tomorrow so I will connect the drive to the Oppo then and try listening to some files at different bit rates 44/96/192 and see how the GUI works and how it sounds.
Definitely will report back when I have some quantifiable data.
(This damn audiofile business sure interferes with the other parts of a guy's life, like work!!!)
FYI, I have just added another live and learn lesson (it's #67,439 to date) to myself from the school of hard knocks:
Whenever you get a new WD My Book drive, do NOT connect it via daisy chain with your other back-up drive(s) that holds all your life and work history from the last 5 years. Set-up the new drive ALL BY ITSELF with its RAID 1 options first, otherwise you may just find all the files on the other drive SOMEHOW GOT DELETED while the new drive's RAID is/was being setup. %$^#*&$^!
I am trying some Mac data recovery software (oh joy, another $99 I get to spend) that works at the raw sector level to try and recover the data. Hopefully that works. Oh and BTW, wanna know how long it takes to scan a 1TB drive for file recovery? Well, its been two hours so far and it looks like I am at about 18% of the scan being competed.
I'll say it. There is no difference betwen wav and flac files, nor apple lossless either.
I have to disagree, my flatmate and I did blind tests on each other comparing Flac and Wav using the Oppo and we both picked wav as sounding better. Whether every one would come to that same conclusion I guess depends on their gear and their own ears.
I have to ask, what software and hardware did you use to encode to FLAC, and what settings did you use for the FLAC endproduct?
Steve's HT: Pre/Pro: Emotiva UMC-1 Amp: Adcom GFA-7700 Front & Surrounds: JBL S38II Center: JBL S-Center II DVD/Blu-Ray/DVD-A/SACD: Oppo BDP-93 Turntable: Technics SL-D2 Cable/DVR: SA 8300HD TV: Sony KDS-60A2000 Sub: SVS PB12-NSD/2 (upgraded from ISD/2) Remote:Home Theater Master MX-850 LG N2A2DD2-NAS for music & movies
I have to disagree, my flatmate and I did blind tests on each other comparing Flac and Wav using the Oppo and we both picked wav as sounding better. Whether every one would come to that same conclusion I guess depends on their gear and their own ears.
I have to ask, what software and hardware did you use to encode to FLAC, and what settings did you use for the FLAC endproduct?
I just used my laptop, which has an AMD Turion X2 CPU with 4G of ram, I use Linux on my laptop and the software I used was soundkonverter and k3b, which are just frontends for flac anyway (when converting to flac) compression settings were at 8.
One of the most noticeable songs was hotel california in 24/192, I downloaded the flac from the net then ran flac -d in a terminal, no other software was used, it was just straight flac -d My flatmate and I both thought the decoded wav file sounded better.
Re: Oppo 95 as FLAC Music Server? « Reply #32 on Feb 23, 2012, 10:00pm »
pops - I look forward to what you think about the 95 and using the WD as your music storage as read/played by the 95.
I recently migrated all my music to a WD MyBookLive that's hung off my router. I originally did this so my Sonos (which feeds my general house area + pool/garage/etc) can access the data and play it through the house. I currently listen to CD's through my Denon 2930 for critical 2-channel listening, but I am strongly leaning toward getting a 95 that would grab the music off the WD drive to play for my critical 2-channel listening (as well as be a great BluRay player...).
So far, I have most of my CD's ripped - all to WAV. I held off ripping more as I had been thinking of switching to FLAC, but given what I am reading...I don't really see a reason to. I guess I will just keep ripping to WAV! As many have said - storage is cheap!
pops - I look forward to what you think about the 95 and using the WD as your music storage as read/played by the 95.
I recently migrated all my music to a WD MyBookLive that's hung off my router. I originally did this so my Sonos (which feeds my general house area + pool/garage/etc) can access the data and play it through the house. I currently listen to CD's through my Denon 2930 for critical 2-channel listening, but I am strongly leaning toward getting a 95 that would grab the music off the WD drive to play for my critical 2-channel listening (as well as be a great BluRay player...).
So far, I have most of my CD's ripped - all to WAV. I held off ripping more as I had been thinking of switching to FLAC, but given what I am reading...I don't really see a reason to. I guess I will just keep ripping to WAV! As many have said - storage is cheap!
Mark
Mark
You may want to learn more about the XMC-1 ability to stream lossless audio files up to 24/192 (FLAC & WAVE). If I understood him correctly, Big Dan said that the XMC-1 will be able to stream audio files over both USB and RJ-45. You may not need the Oppo 95 to play your audio files from your hard drive. In addition to the lossless formats it will also handle AAC and MP3 files as well. I am anxious to see how the interface will work.
I just used my laptop, which has an AMD Turion X2 CPU with 4G of ram, I use Linux on my laptop and the software I used was soundkonverter and k3b, which are just frontends for flac anyway (when converting to flac) compression settings were at 8.
One of the most noticeable songs was hotel california in 24/192, I downloaded the flac from the net then ran flac -d in a terminal, no other software was used, it was just straight flac -d My flatmate and I both thought the decoded wav file sounded better.
Hey Guzz,
Have you had the opportunity to do that little experiment but using a Memory Player* to playback both formats?
I'd be curious to know the results.
Cheers,
* - A memory player is what is usually called any playing software that offers the ability of playing a compressed file completely from memory, effectively decompressing and loading it to memory and only then playing it, instead of decompressing the file at the same time it plays it.
I just used my laptop, which has an AMD Turion X2 CPU with 4G of ram, I use Linux on my laptop and the software I used was soundkonverter and k3b, which are just frontends for flac anyway (when converting to flac) compression settings were at 8.
One of the most noticeable songs was hotel california in 24/192, I downloaded the flac from the net then ran flac -d in a terminal, no other software was used, it was just straight flac -d My flatmate and I both thought the decoded wav file sounded better.
Hey Guzz,
Have you had the opportunity to do that little experiment but using a Memory Player* to playback both formats?
I'd be curious to know the results.
Cheers,
* - A memory player is what is usually called any playing software that offers the ability of playing a compressed file completely from memory, effectively decompressing and loading it to memory and only then playing it, instead of decompressing the file at the same time it plays it.
No I can't say I have, in fact I've never even heard of a memory player until now, I googled it but couldn't find anything, I have heard some people claim that the sound difference may be down to how the player plays the file, eg the player having to uncompress the flac file may have an impact on the sound quality.
I don't know if thats the case or not, it would be interesting to find out, but at the end of the day its kind of irrelevant to me anyway, I only need to know how they sound played from my Oppo. My thought process was... why do I need flac anyway? space isn't an issue for me, and neither is tags and album art.
Re: Oppo 95 as FLAC Music Server? « Reply #37 on Feb 24, 2012, 3:47am »
i have a WD HD attached by USB to my Oppo 95. i organised the files into ABCD...Z to give a faster search, works ok, also works ok with a thumb drive too with great sound.
I also have it wirelessly streaming via media monkey using the network function, that too is cool and good sound.
i just find it a little bit too awkward. As such I still keep reaching for the CD's.
Regardless, it is a fantastic machine and one day soon id love to see an ipad app for it, surely there is some genius out there...
No I can't say I have, in fact I've never even heard of a memory player until now, I googled it but couldn't find anything, I have heard some people claim that the sound difference may be down to how the player plays the file, eg the player having to uncompress the flac file may have an impact on the sound quality.
Yeap, several people that claim to hear differences between wav & FLAC claim that as well, hence my question. For windows you have cicsplay (aka cPlay), jplay, J.River, etc. For Mac you have Pure Music, Amarra, Audirvana (including the free version), Decibel and others.
I know it's not an issue for you right now, but if you ever get the chance, do let us know of the results.
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