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Post by normanu on Sept 6, 2011 5:39:57 GMT -5
How is the XPR line compared to the XPA-1 ?
I have at the moment the XPA-5 which for my forward speakers I think of replacing with a "better" amp.
If the XPR-5 gives the same performance as the XPA-1, it would be better for me to replace the XPA with the XPR.
Can anyone comment on sound quality ?
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Post by hemster on Sept 6, 2011 5:52:47 GMT -5
It may be a tad early for assessing the SQ of the XPR-5 amp because we've not had the pleasure of listening to it just yet. Soon though!
I wouldn't expect the same performance output from the XPA-5 as the XPA-1. If you want the same performance as the XPA-1, then I'd suggest getting an XPA-1! Or just hang tight for a bit and enjoy your XPA-5 and see what's in store for later on.
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Post by normanu on Sept 6, 2011 7:24:27 GMT -5
Well I'll be waiting untill the center in Amsterdam opens anyway, so I have some time  |
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Post by Erwin.BE on Sept 6, 2011 10:20:33 GMT -5
I'd love to hear one of those huge PMC speakers, with the XPR-1... They claim Prince has a set. www.pmc-speakers.com/product.php?mode=view&pid=44&&show=specYour's are slightly more modest. I would think a XPA-2 would do the trick? FYI, I do recall (from Dan or Lonnie) that the XPR-series isn't supposed to sound "better" than the XPA's. It's Class H typology, meaning that it will be very efficient, even more than the already excellent Class AB XPA's. So, more power with less electricity. |
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Post by Poodleluvr on Sept 6, 2011 10:57:51 GMT -5
Class H: More power w/o turning into a room heater.
From my recollection, from what I've read (going from memory), Class H is basically a more complicated design of Class B. Basically, Class H is Class B design with a variable voltage rail that occurs through additional switching to increase efficiency.
I believe a question of issue arises, if the additional switching causes distortion or can have an effect on upper frequencies.
And, I'm thinking what is important is design, and how that design is implicated as a whole.
As as owner of a pair XPA-1s, I'm thinking the XPR-1 may become Emotiva's new flagship reference mono block.
Now, when Emo introduces the XPR-1, am I going to order the new mono blocks immediately?
No, I'll do some homework and wait for reviews.
And, if I do order them, I'll take advantage of the home audition period to discern for my own ears if I hear a difference, and if the difference is worth the associated upgrade costs of which is a personal decision.
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Post by normanu on Sept 6, 2011 13:33:48 GMT -5
Well thats the reason I am waiting for them to open up in Amsterdam I want to try things at home first.... The XPA-1 is already being compared with Monoblock's X time their price ... Can't imagine the XPR-1 beating that .... |
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Post by Erwin.BE on Sept 8, 2011 6:26:30 GMT -5
Well thats the reason I am waiting for them to open up in Amsterdam I want to try things at home first.... The XPA-1 is already being compared with Monoblock's X time their price ... Can't imagine the XPR-1 beating that .... Did I miss something? Emotiva shop in Amsterdam? Who? I have to say, I can relate to the XPR-5 and XPR-2, but how many will buy the XPR-1? Who needs 1000W @ 8 ohm? I'm not sure those B&W 800D (recm up to 1,000W) owners are plentifull AND brave enough to give the XPR-1 a fair chance. Maybe those who bought the speakers used will be smart enough. Anyway, the 800D is very rare, while the 802D is more common IMO. But that needs only 500W. Attachments:
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Post by normanu on Sept 9, 2011 4:37:58 GMT -5
Hi Erwin, they are looking to open a distribution center in Amsterdam in cooperation with Fedex.
They have visited Amsterdam last month, to check it out etc etc ...
More info to come....
besides I'm not really interested in Wattage more in sound quality ... apparently the XPA-1 is amazing, while the watts of the XPA-5 is already sufficient for my speakers...
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Post by jerrin on Sept 9, 2011 12:48:47 GMT -5
As as owner of a pair XPA-1s, I'm thinking the XPR-1 may become Emotiva's new flagship reference mono block. Now, when Emo introduces the XPR-1, am I going to order the new mono blocks immediately? No, I'll do some homework and wait for reviews. And, if I do order them, I'll take advantage of the home audition period to discern for my own ears if I hear a difference, and if the difference is worth the associated upgrade costs of which is a personal decision. That sounds like a great idea. Both Lonnie and Dan told me several times at Emofest 2010 and Axpona that the XPA-1 will remain the SQ amp. Both also told me that the XPR is for the highest power, not highest SQ. They also told me that the XPR line would sound great, but would not have SQ that would surpass the XPA-1. Based on that and an absence of reviews, I'll stick with the XPA-1. Of course, I still have to say I'm really impressed with the MPS-1. |
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Post by Erwin.BE on Sept 9, 2011 12:56:10 GMT -5
Hi Erwin, they are looking to open a distribution center in Amsterdam in cooperation with Fedex. They have visited Amsterdam last month, to check it out etc etc ... More info to come.... Great news! But distribution doesn't mean it's open as a normal shop, or what? |
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Post by Erwin.BE on Sept 9, 2011 18:07:49 GMT -5
Both Lonnie and Dan told me several times at Emofest 2010 and Axpona that the XPA-1 will remain the SQ amp. Both also told me that the XPR is for the highest power, not highest SQ. They also told me that the XPR line would sound great, but would not have SQ that would surpass the XPA-1. But good lookers, heh? Attachments:
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Post by normanu on Sept 12, 2011 3:48:11 GMT -5
Hi Erwin, they are looking to open a distribution center in Amsterdam in cooperation with Fedex. They have visited Amsterdam last month, to check it out etc etc ... More info to come.... Great news! But distribution doesn't mean it's open as a normal shop, or what? No as I have understood, sales will still be handled through the States, just delivery will be from Amsterdam. Which will be excellent, as this cuts the overhead, so prices should not increase to much .... Allthough they did say there would also probably be service in Amsterdam..... |
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Post by Erwin.BE on Sept 12, 2011 14:00:19 GMT -5
Great news! But distribution doesn't mean it's open as a normal shop, or what? No as I have understood, sales will still be handled through the States, just delivery will be from Amsterdam. Which will be excellent, as this cuts the overhead, so prices should not increase to much .... Allthough they did say there would also probably be service in Amsterdam..... When we purchase something now, first there's the shipping added (which the US customers don't pay at all) and over the total, we pay 30% VAT and duties. I hope we benefit from the EU-based distribution. Let's hope they figured out how to deal with the currrency issues. I'm not willing to pay 1€ for 1$ if the official rate is $1.40 = €1. |
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Post by Gary Cook on Sept 13, 2011 1:28:18 GMT -5
When we purchase something now, first there's the shipping added (which the US customers don't pay at all) and over the total, we pay 30% VAT and duties. I hope we benefit from the EU-based distribution. Let's hope they figured out how to deal with the currrency issues. I'm not willing to pay 1€ for 1$ if the official rate is $1.40 = €1. Is there a minimum amount that you don't get charged duty and VAT? In Australia any shipment less than $1K doesn't get charged duty or GST. Plus we have a free trade agreement with the USA so anything made there attracts no duty anyway. Australian Customs worked out that it wasn't good value for their time collecting little tiny individual amounts of duty and GST. It used to be $400 per item, which gave ~$60 in duty (5%) + GST (10%) and the cost benefit analysis showed it cost $65 to collect the $60. So they upped it to $1,000, hence collecting $150 for their $65 cost. It has been my experience that most countries have a minimum, the trick is to find out what it is and make sure that every shipment you get is below that minimum. Exchange rate wise I get a quote from my bank before I transfer the funds either by direct debit or credit card. The rate is always within a point or 2 of the daily published rate. If it isn't I'd get a new bank. Cheers Gary |
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Post by Erwin.BE on Sept 13, 2011 10:59:01 GMT -5
When we purchase something now, first there's the shipping added (which the US customers don't pay at all) and over the total, we pay 30% VAT and duties. I hope we benefit from the EU-based distribution. Let's hope they figured out how to deal with the currrency issues. I'm not willing to pay 1€ for 1$ if the official rate is $1.40 = €1. Is there a minimum amount that you don't get charged duty and VAT? In Australia any shipment less than $1K doesn't get charged duty or GST. Plus we have a free trade agreement with the USA so anything made there attracts no duty anyway. Australian Customs worked out that it wasn't good value for their time collecting little tiny individual amounts of duty and GST. It used to be $400 per item, which gave ~$60 in duty (5%) + GST (10%) and the cost benefit analysis showed it cost $65 to collect the $60. So they upped it to $1,000, hence collecting $150 for their $65 cost. It has been my experience that most countries have a minimum, the trick is to find out what it is and make sure that every shipment you get is below that minimum. Exchange rate wise I get a quote from my bank before I transfer the funds either by direct debit or credit card. The rate is always within a point or 2 of the daily published rate. If it isn't I'd get a new bank. Cheers Gary Gary mate, rub it in, why don't you?  You lucky Aussie b****rd To my knowledge, there's no minimum treshold. There are companies pulling a trick though. Put $25 on an invoice for a $250 product (US and a Hong Kong shop did this unsollicited). VAT in Belgium: 21% (most EU countries are 19%). Some items have a lower VAT of 6% (labour intensive things, fuel for heating, food) Hey, watched Sam Stosur beat Serena fair and square. Well done Australia! Cadel did what he should have done years ago in Le Tour also. But behold: we are getting our Kim back in shape in time for Melbourne one last time! |
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Post by Gary Cook on Sept 15, 2011 1:13:16 GMT -5
Gary mate, rub it in, why don't you? You lucky Aussie b****rd Not rubbing it in, just pointing out how dumb Belgian Customs must be for collecting $50 when it must be costing them $60 to collect it. We thought that a few years back and then guys started to test it. Buy 1 CD $10, see if they collect duty and GST = nope Buy 5 CD's $50, see if they collect duty and GST = nope Buy 10 CD's $100, see if they collect duty and GST = nope Buy 50 CD's $500, see if they collect duty and GST = yes We narrowed it down to $400, so everybody then made sure to buy stuff in bundles of less than $400. A couple of years ago they did that cost benefit analysis and worked out they were losing money at $400 so they made it $1,000. The penalties for doing that here are harsh, so we just stick to the under $1K rule. That's why Emotiva is so good for us, everything costs less than $1K individually. Which is a tip for Emotiva don't have prices more than $A1K thanks (that's about $US1050at the moment). It's been long time since an Ozzie won a Grand Slam, so it's a big deal for us. I usually go the Australian Open and I try and see all of Kim's matches, she is great to watch play, no grunting. Cheers Gary |
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Post by qaz on May 25, 2012 19:43:12 GMT -5
so.. the XPR-5 is on the water... wats the official announcement on the difference between the XPA & XPR series? confirmed its class H? Is the XPR meant to take over XPA as emo's flagship range in terms of quality or is the XPR designed for higher wattage but XPA remains as the quality leader?
Can imagine the headache when both XPA & XPR full lines are out.. There will be lots of XPA-1 vs XPR-2 vs XPR-1 for stereo and XPA5 vs XPR5 discussions.. discussions are good though.. its just molre difficult to choose if u're buying..
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Post by monkumonku on May 25, 2012 19:52:04 GMT -5
so.. the XPR-5 is on the water... wats the official announcement on the difference between the XPA & XPR series? confirmed its class H? Is the XPR meant to take over XPA as emo's flagship range in terms of quality or is the XPR designed for higher wattage but XPA remains as the quality leader? Can imagine the headache when both XPA & XPR full lines are out.. There will be lots of XPA-1 vs XPR-2 vs XPR-1 for stereo and XPA5 vs XPR5 discussions.. discussions are good though.. its just molre difficult to choose if u're buying.. Well perhaps, but there will be no discussion about the XPA-1. That will still be king.  |
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Post by truls on May 26, 2012 11:44:53 GMT -5
No mater what, i still want to upgrade from my XPA-1's to a pair of XPR-1's.
1. My room is hot as a oven.
2. They are bigger, and that's cool.
3. Braging rights!
If the SQ is equal to the XPA and UPA range then i see no problem.
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Post by tchaik on May 26, 2012 12:45:40 GMT -5
No mater what, i still want to upgrade from my XPA-1's to a pair of XPR-1's. 1. My room is hot as a oven. 2. They are bigger, and that's cool. 3. Braging rights! If the SQ is equal to the XPA and UPA range then i see no problem. let me know when you step up. always wanted xpa-1s but can't afford new. tchaik....... |
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