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garbulky Protean Force member is offline Joined: Jan 2012 Gender: Male Posts: 3,221XPA-1-L thread « Thread Started on Sept 1, 2012, 10:13pm »
Hearing from the reports on the emofest, the xpa-1-L is certainly a surprise to me. 30 watts of class A power! Does anybody know how that compares xpa-1 in class A?
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harri009 Emo VIPs member is offline Joined: Nov 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 943 Location: Norman, OKRe: XPA-1-L thread « Reply #1 on Sept 1, 2012, 10:19pm »
XPA-1 has 10 class A watts via Lonnie
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garbulky Protean Force member is offline Joined: Jan 2012 Gender: Male Posts: 3,221Re: XPA-1-L thread « Reply #2 on Sept 1, 2012, 10:22pm »
Oh wow!! This is honestly a heck of a good idea. The XPA-1 combines serious brute stregnth a good amount of class A power, while the XPA-1L provides stregnth though not as much but provides 3 times more class A than the xpa-1. That's really something! There's something for every audio enthusiast with a very nice comfortable trade-off between serious power and serious quality.
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klinemj Emo VIPs member is offline Go get yourself some cheap sunglasses! Joined: Jun 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 4,366Re: XPA-1-L thread « Reply #3 on Sept 1, 2012, 10:31pm »
Also, there's some type of limiter built in such that if it gets running to hot in pure class A, it will automatically switch over to A/B until it cools off enough. Overall, it appears this is going to be a really nice amp. We didn't get to hear it, but it was on display. I have a photo of it w/the XPA-1 and XPR-1..a nice "little" lineup! Mark
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harri009 Emo VIPs member is offline Joined: Nov 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 943 Location: Norman, OKRe: XPA-1-L thread « Reply #4 on Sept 1, 2012, 10:36pm »
Where is this said photo 😃
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chaosrv Sensei member is offline 42 Joined: Jun 2011 Gender: Male Posts: 345 Location: New York, NYRe: XPA-1-L thread « Reply #5 on Sept 1, 2012, 10:37pm »
This is terrible news! I had fully intended on getting myself an XPA-2 for my mains (Martin Logan Vistas) or an XPA-3 for the mains & center (yet to be purchased ML Stage) Now I am thinking A pair of XPA-1L's I live in an apartment so a huge amount of volume/power is not needed but 'm thinking the XPA-1L's will make them sing! Logically speaking, of course, I should go with the XPA-3 for now and get a pair of XPA-1L's after I pick out the surrounds and regulate the XPA-3 to center/surround duty, but where would the fun be in that?
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klinemj Emo VIPs member is offline Go get yourself some cheap sunglasses! Joined: Jun 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 4,366Re: XPA-1-L thread « Reply #6 on Sept 1, 2012, 10:42pm »
Quote: It will end up in the photo thread once I get time...busy day!
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wizardofoz Protean Force member is offline Chill...nobody gets out alive...even you! Joined: Jul 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 1,426 Location: SingaporeRe: XPA-1-L thread « Reply #7 on Sept 1, 2012, 10:45pm »
Xpa-1L won't stack well then...I'm surprised about the 'XPA-1 has 10 class A watts via Lonnie' ... How come that never surfaced before
I have a pile of stuff that pushes out squiggly waveforms from smaller squiggly waveforms that sometimes come from 1's and 0's.
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klinemj Emo VIPs member is offline Go get yourself some cheap sunglasses! Joined: Jun 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 4,366Re: XPA-1-L thread « Reply #8 on Sept 1, 2012, 10:51pm »
That's been out there a long time...I think the official quote was "about 10-15 watts Class A". Again, it's been out there 2-3 years from Lonnnie's quotes. Mark
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wizardofoz Protean Force member is offline Chill...nobody gets out alive...even you! Joined: Jul 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 1,426 Location: SingaporeRe: XPA-1-L thread « Reply #9 on Sept 1, 2012, 10:53pm »
Well I never recall seeing in any specs or on the product page. No wonder they run warm when doing bugger all
I have a pile of stuff that pushes out squiggly waveforms from smaller squiggly waveforms that sometimes come from 1's and 0's.
It's wonderful to behold as long as you don't let the magic smoke out.
For the most part it just all works...when it doesn't then it's time to rub a few brain cells together and soon enough it's all good to go again.
Life is short! Enjoy the music while it plays
sharkman Protean Force member is offline Joined: Jan 2010 Gender: Male Posts: 1,173Re: XPA-1-L thread « Reply #10 on Sept 1, 2012, 11:33pm »
Yeah, this is the first I've heard of the XPA-1's class A operation, and I followed the amp with interest when it was released. Anyway, this is yet another idea that they've borrowed from other companies, and it's a good one.
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garbulky Protean Force member is offline Joined: Jan 2012 Gender: Male Posts: 3,221Re: XPA-1-L thread « Reply #11 on Sept 1, 2012, 11:33pm »
I wonder if this class A rating is at 4 or 8 ohms?! Don't know if that makes a difference...
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geebo Emo VIPs member is offline Getting a head ain't easy... Joined: Jun 2010 Gender: Male Posts: 10,796 Location: 30 miles from Emotiva HQRe: XPA-1-L thread « Reply #12 on Sept 2, 2012, 12:37am »
Sept 1, 2012, 11:33pm , sharkman wrote:Yeah, this is the first I've heard of the XPA-1's class A operation, and I followed the amp with interest when it was released. Anyway, this is yet another idea that they've borrowed from other companies, and it's a good one.
Not the XPA-1 but the XPA-1L. And I heard 30 watts (class A) but don't know if the was 4 or 8 ohms. But the XPR-1 can do 3.5K watts at 2ohms (unofficially)
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garbulky Protean Force member is offline Joined: Jan 2012 Gender: Male Posts: 3,221Re: XPA-1-L thread « Reply #13 on Sept 2, 2012, 12:43am »
My word!
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monkumonku Emo VIPs member is offline Destined to wander the countryside always with that itch Joined: Feb 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 6,882 Location: Temple City, CARe: XPA-1-L thread « Reply #15 on Sept 2, 2012, 12:58am »
Sept 2, 2012, 12:44am , paintedklown wrote:Sept 2, 2012, 12:37am , geebo wrote:But the XPR-1 can do 3.5K watts at 2ohms (unofficially
On a serious note. That's a LOT of power for any one man to yield. One must use caution at that point.
Maybe the XPR-1 ought to be president.
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jamrock Emo VIPs member is offline Courtesy Costs Nothing. Give Generously! Joined: Jun 2010 Gender: Male Posts: 4,750 Location: Boca Raton, FLRe: XPA-1-L thread « Reply #17 on Sept 2, 2012, 8:20am »
I think that there are a number of threads for political talk and members should resign their political commentaries, remarks, snipings to those threads. Just a thought. The XPR-1L sounds like the only reason I would consider going 5/2 amps with my system. I have always advocated and plead for a powerful 7 channel amp. Now, if this technology could be implemented in a 7 channel amp, that would be pure joy.
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Sept 1, 2012, 11:33pm , garbulky wrote:I wonder if this class A rating is at 4 or 8 ohms?! Don't know if that makes a difference...
It is the amp rating at both 4 and 8 ohms.
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Aluminati Sound Sensei member is offline Joined: Dec 2012 Gender: Male Posts: 698 Location: Crystal, Minnesota (55427)Re: XPA-1-L thread « Reply #19 on Sept 2, 2012, 9:25am »
I'll just post this again. NOT LIKE THE UPA-1 BUT IN LIKE CHASSIS SIZE!!!!! XPA-1L 250@8ohms 500@4ohms First 30 watts in Class A, A-B the rest of the way. Switch on back to go between Class A/A-B and A-B all the time. UPA-1 like chassis. True balanced Amp will switch to A-B when amp gets to hot. Will return to normal when heat decreases.
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