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« Thread Started on Nov 23, 2010, 8:38am »

I was wondering whats the best route to hook up my stuff. I have a usp-1 pre xpa-2 amp and erc-1. I'm getting the xda-1. What order do I install the xda? Do I have it hooked up after erc then xda to usp?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on Nov 23, 2010, 8:42am »

ERC-1 digital out, into the XDA-1, and from there RCA-cables into the USP-1. And then you use two additional RCA-cables into your XPA-2. Then plug in your speakers.
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« Reply #2 on Nov 23, 2010, 9:03am »

Or for best possible sound quality:

ERC-1 digital out -> XDA-1 -> balanced cable -> XPA-2

Volume regulation is built in XDA-1, but you have to switch the amp to balanced manually.
Inconvinient, but the best sounding option as per Lonnie. (Until XSP-1 is on market ;))
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« Reply #3 on Nov 24, 2010, 9:58pm »

so ERC-1 digital out requires an optical cable?
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« Reply #4 on Nov 24, 2010, 10:01pm »


Nov 24, 2010, 9:58pm, rclark wrote:
so ERC-1 digital out requires an optical cable?


Optical or coax, it has both outputs
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« Reply #5 on Nov 24, 2010, 10:02pm »

so what if I connected the ERC-1 to the XDA-1 with coax?
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« Reply #6 on Nov 24, 2010, 10:27pm »


Nov 24, 2010, 10:02pm, rclark wrote:
so what if I connected the ERC-1 to the XDA-1 with coax?


Either coax or digital it doesn't matter - it is the same information being sent to the XDA-1 - although some will have a preference of coax over optical and vice-versa, personally I don't have a preference.
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« Reply #7 on Nov 26, 2010, 9:13pm »

Can i connect the xda-1 using xlr balanced cable to xpa-1 skip umc-1 so when listening to 2 ch just switch the back of xpa-1 to balanced. When watching HT switch back to unbalaced & thru the umc-1?
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« Reply #8 on Nov 26, 2010, 9:39pm »


Nov 26, 2010, 9:13pm, DC wrote:
Can i connect the xda-1 using xlr balanced cable to xpa-1 skip umc-1 so when listening to 2 ch just switch the back of xpa-1 to balanced. When watching HT switch back to unbalaced & thru the umc-1?


Yes, you could hook it direct to the XPA-1 and switch sources by using the Bal/UnBal switch on the back of the amp, but it is not a wise thing to do. The slider switch is intended to be used rarely, when first installing it or when changing pre/pro connections. The switch is NOT designed to be used as you are contemplating. It will fail rather quickly if used on a daily basis to switch input sources. Emotiva has confirmed this on another thread. DO NOT DO IT!
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« Reply #9 on Nov 30, 2010, 4:43pm »

Not trying to hi-jack but I didn't want to start a new thread on "how to hook up".... I'm surprised nobody has responded "try craigslist personals" or "e-harmony" yet.

Anyway, i want to bypass my usp and go direct into two upa-1's, but I would really like to use a sub in my 2 channel set up. I am contemplating using FMOD active crossover simulators in line with the unbalanced outputs to the high pass amps and then utilize the balanced output to the sub where I can use the low pass crossover integral with the sub.

Two questions really:

1) Anybody used or had experience with FMOD filters good or bad
2) Any problem utilizing the balanced and unbalanced outputs on the xda-1 simultaneously?

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=266-272
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« Reply #10 on Nov 30, 2010, 5:15pm »


Nov 26, 2010, 9:39pm, roadrunner wrote:

Nov 26, 2010, 9:13pm, DC wrote:
Can i connect the xda-1 using xlr balanced cable to xpa-1 skip umc-1 so when listening to 2 ch just switch the back of xpa-1 to balanced. When watching HT switch back to unbalaced & thru the umc-1?


Yes, you could hook it direct to the XPA-1 and switch sources by using the Bal/UnBal switch on the back of the amp, but it is not a wise thing to do. The slider switch is intended to be used rarely, when first installing it or when changing pre/pro connections. The switch is NOT designed to be used as you are contemplating. It will fail rather quickly if used on a daily basis to switch input sources. Emotiva has confirmed this on another thread. DO NOT DO IT!


When did Emo say that? I have read several posts about that being the way to hook it up, and it is the way I planned to hook it up. There's no point to go from the ERC to XDA to my Onkyo receiver. That's just a waste of a $300 DAC. I'm not going to get a USP because it's output is inferior to the XDA, and the whole issue with the HT Bypass, not really being a true bypass. The XSP doesn't exist yet, and no word on when it will, and even when it does I'm not sure I can swing another $800.

I won't be switching it daily, but probably several times a week. So what is Emo's estimated MTBF on that switch, and will they warranty it if/when it breaks?
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« Reply #11 on Nov 30, 2010, 8:40pm »


Nov 26, 2010, 9:39pm, roadrunner wrote:

Nov 26, 2010, 9:13pm, DC wrote:
Can i connect the xda-1 using xlr balanced cable to xpa-1 skip umc-1 so when listening to 2 ch just switch the back of xpa-1 to balanced. When watching HT switch back to unbalaced & thru the umc-1?


Yes, you could hook it direct to the XPA-1 and switch sources by using the Bal/UnBal switch on the back of the amp, but it is not a wise thing to do. The slider switch is intended to be used rarely, when first installing it or when changing pre/pro connections. The switch is NOT designed to be used as you are contemplating. It will fail rather quickly if used on a daily basis to switch input sources. Emotiva has confirmed this on another thread. DO NOT DO IT!


So what will be the best solution on hooking up if it's not wise to keep switching? I'm as concerned like 'Shawmbigdis' on this issue.
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« Reply #12 on Nov 30, 2010, 9:52pm »


Nov 30, 2010, 4:43pm, vespid wrote:
Not trying to hi-jack but I didn't want to start a new thread on "how to hook up".... I'm surprised nobody has responded "try craigslist personals" or "e-harmony" yet.

Anyway, i want to bypass my usp and go direct into two upa-1's, but I would really like to use a sub in my 2 channel set up. I am contemplating using FMOD active crossover simulators in line with the unbalanced outputs to the high pass amps and then utilize the balanced output to the sub where I can use the low pass crossover integral with the sub.

Two questions really:

1) Anybody used or had experience with FMOD filters good or bad
2) Any problem utilizing the balanced and unbalanced outputs on the xda-1 simultaneously?

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=266-272


Vespid,

I have had a good experience so far with the FMODs:

http://emotivalounge.proboards.com/index....3&page=7#214082

http://emotivalounge.proboards.com/index....3&page=7#214111

I'll experiment more when the XDA arrives. For the cost of the FMODs you can experiment on the cheap, so if you think that you need them go ahead and try them.
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« Reply #13 on Nov 30, 2010, 10:45pm »

Thanks murphman. I definitely need to come up with something for a high pass. I get carried away with the volume sometimes when the source is clean and I don't want to send anything much under 80 or so hz to my MTM's to help protect me from myself. I'll give those FMOD's a try.

After going through the effort of an external DAC with discrete outputs direct to mono-block amps, I should probably just build some nice full range floor standers so I don't have to worry about it. ;D
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« Reply #14 on Dec 1, 2010, 10:14am »

Call me crazy but when I get my XDA-1 I'm going to use my XDA-1 as my pre/pro an get rid of my surround sound and run solely on 2 channel for everything. At least until I get an XMC.
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« Reply #15 on Dec 1, 2010, 10:20am »


Dec 1, 2010, 10:14am, lancity wrote:
Call me crazy but when I get my XDA-1 I'm going to use my XDA-1 as my pre/pro an get rid of my surround sound and run solely on 2 channel for everything. At least until I get an XMC.


i will certainly try watching a couple movies and see how the sound quality is. i dont know if i would be able to take that plunge though
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