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Post by keithfromcanada on Oct 8, 2010 14:41:08 GMT -5
Alright, I currently have a Yamaha RX-V1800 running my Swan Diva set-up and have had my eye on the XPA-5 for some time. Now, the UPA-5 comes out at a ridiculously low price! My questions are:
Will the UPA-5 be a significant upgrade over my current receiver? Should I wait for the XPA-5 to come down a little at Christmas?
Also, I've read some critical reviews in which people are saying that the transformer on the UPA-5 is not capable of outputting 125W with all channels driven. I would hate to drop $'s on something that isn't giving me more than I am getting with my current receiver...
Any thoughts would be appreciated!
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Post by bfisher on Oct 8, 2010 14:54:53 GMT -5
I can't speak about the transformer... no idea. However I have both a UPA-5 and an XPA-5. They are both awesome and are a step up from the typical AVR. Check out the amps section - I did a comparison of the two (based on my personal opinions)
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Post by eljaycanuck on Oct 8, 2010 15:05:26 GMT -5
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Post by Dan Laufman on Oct 8, 2010 15:44:12 GMT -5
Clearly the "critical" reviewer you mention does not own the UPA-5, nor has he ever seen one in person. This would would be "beneath" him. He also did not take the time to read the AP test data or reviews of the UPA-5. They show the FACTS. After reading his posts on another forum, facts seem to be irrelevant.
The UPA-5 meets its power rating with ALL channels driven and has exceptional performance into 4 ohm loads. We do not mislead our customers. We publish AP data on all amplifiers and show the continuous power with ALL channels driven.
The UPA-5 is a wonderful amplifier and I will put it up against ANY amplifier in its power class. At $399.00 it's an unheard of bargain.
We've been testing some well known receivers here in our lab, and as expected, their amplifier sections leave much to be desired. You will hear a significant improvement in your system with a real power amplifier in the signal chain.
What do you have to lose? Give it a try. You might be very pleased and VERY surprised.
Big Dan
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Post by Topend on Oct 8, 2010 15:56:31 GMT -5
Alright, I currently have a Yamaha RX-V1800 running my Swan Diva set-up and have had my eye on the XPA-5 for some time. Now, the UPA-5 comes out at a ridiculously low price! My questions are: Will the UPA-5 be a significant upgrade over my current receiver? Should I wait for the XPA-5 to come down a little at Christmas? Also, I've read some critical reviews in which people are saying that the transformer on the UPA-5 is not capable of outputting 125W with all channels driven. I would hate to drop $'s on something that isn't giving me more than I am getting with my current receiver... Any thoughts would be appreciated! I added an XPA-5 to an RX-V3800 and this proved to be the best upgrade I have ever done. I have since added the XPA-2, then the UMC-1 to replace the Yamaha and then the UPA-2 for my outdoor speakers. I am currently selling my house so have temporarily scaled back to a 2 channel system so the house looks better. So now I only have the UMC-1, UPA-2 and my main speakers. With this setup the SQ is still there. The UPA-2 is proving to be a great amp that only falls short of the XPA-2 at higher volumes, say 35+ on the UMC-1. From this experience I would say you could make a similar comparison between the XPA-5 and UPA-5. If you like higher volumes then maybe holdout for the XPA-5. If not, then the UPA-5 will provide you with an upgrade to your Yamaha. Dave.
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Post by audionut on Oct 8, 2010 16:28:40 GMT -5
Alright, I currently have a Yamaha RX-V1800 running my Swan Diva set-up and have had my eye on the XPA-5 for some time. Now, the UPA-5 comes out at a ridiculously low price! My questions are: Will the UPA-5 be a significant upgrade over my current receiver? Should I wait for the XPA-5 to come down a little at Christmas? Also, I've read some critical reviews in which people are saying that the transformer on the UPA-5 is not capable of outputting 125W with all channels driven. I would hate to drop $'s on something that isn't giving me more than I am getting with my current receiver... Any thoughts would be appreciated! I too would be worried if the transformer was the only part of the power amp. However with 90,000uF of secondary capacitance you will have a very hard time making that amp run out of juice in any type of real world scenario. (last I checked speakers do not sound like resistors at all. ) I would buy this without hesitation if I didn't already own a LPA-1.
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Post by roadrunner on Oct 8, 2010 18:09:05 GMT -5
I have seen some of those "critical" reviews posted on various forums and I have to wonder what "agenda" the person posting those reviews is trying to maintain. From personal experience, I can tell you all such posts is a big pile of sh*t. As Big Dan pointed out they publish the actual Precision Audio Tester results on the Product Page of each amplifier... Proof positive of what the amplifier is capable of doing. If you don't trust that Emotiva is give you the straight story, check out Audioholics.com or HometheaterHiFi.com and see what they think of Emotiva's amps. Just recently, Audioholics tested the UPA-7, nearly the same amp as the UPA-5, and they gave a rave review about the power output of that amplifier, which easily exceeded the published specs. See for yourself at the following link. www.audioholics.com/reviews/amplifiers/emotiva-upa-7/upa7-measurementsThere have been dozens of Lounge members who have posted about the fantastic improvement in the sound of their system after inserting one of the UPA series amps into their HT. You can easily find out for yourself with Emotiva's 30-day trial period.
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Post by keithfromcanada on Oct 8, 2010 19:09:31 GMT -5
Whoa fellas...I Mention the transformer 'concern' because it is being raised by others out there. I have no idea if there is anything to it or not...I just raise it because it's floating around. I have no doubt that the Emo folks are nothing but honest.
I've decided that I'll be going with the XPA-5 when it comes up for sale next. My speakers are efficient now but I want that extra headroom for when I do my next upgrade. Besides, I'll always wonder 'what could have been' had I held out for a real beast like the XPA-5.
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Post by Tyler wants bass! on Oct 8, 2010 19:24:02 GMT -5
Added a XPA 5 on my RX-V1600, theres deffinatley a difference. My mains are 96 db effeciency and Ive had it up quite loud in 2 channel and love it.
I'm going to side with Eljay. And honestly at 399 it is damn cheap.
Holding out for the XPA you wont be dissapointed.
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Post by NorthStar on Oct 8, 2010 19:33:55 GMT -5
We got Canadians, Americans, Australians, ... and Emotiva amps. And all of them are excellent!
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Post by thepcguy on Oct 8, 2010 19:54:50 GMT -5
We got Canadians, Americans, Australians, ... and Emotiva amps. And all of them are excellent! My Lord, only 2 continents?
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Post by butler on Oct 8, 2010 21:08:50 GMT -5
:)My UPA-5 is being delivered on Monday, this deal is unheard of with high end audio. If you take the time to clearly review the spec sheets & test graphs in comparison to other well known high-end brands the reported performance alone would catch your attention, then look at the price and even at regular price and you just shake your head in disbelief. Mine can't get here fast enough. Now if I'm lucking to receive a $100 off coupon my next purchase will be the UMC-1 as I've been watching the firmware progression holding off until I felt the unit was stable, looks like at 7.2 its there. On a side note my long time Marantz SR-18 died (hugh marantz fan) and the UPA-5 is going to sit in its box until I decide on a processor to match with it...It will be interesting to hear how the UPA-5 sound with my GR-Reseach AV-3 speakers...long time audiophile, short time Emotiva fan.
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Post by Lonnie on Oct 8, 2010 21:09:59 GMT -5
You know I have tried to explain how the power supply design works in an audio amplifier, but the nay sayers just won't listen.
Here is one that will really blow their minds. Some have said there is no way we can get 625 watts out of a 600VA transformer in the UPA-5. When Gene did his measurements of the UPA-7 for his review he measured in excess of 150 watts per channel with all channels driven. Well that is 1050 watts and it only has an 850VA transformer.
Ponder on that for a while. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by tchaik on Oct 8, 2010 21:43:29 GMT -5
this is ridiculous.
i don't even need a upa-5 and with the sale and $100 gift for umc owners i am tempted to buy one just in case i might need it later on. $399 on sale -$100= $299 and free shipping.................
oh woe is me.........
tchaik..............
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Post by johndavidson on Oct 8, 2010 21:51:53 GMT -5
You know I have tried to explain how the power supply design works in an audio amplifier, but the nay sayers just won't listen. Here is one that will really blow their minds. Some have said there is no way we can get 625 watts out of a 600VA transformer in the UPA-5. When Gene did his measurements of the UPA-7 for his review he measured in excess of 150 watts per channel with all channels driven. Well that is 1050 watts and it only has an 850VA transformer. Ponder on that for a while. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Lonnie let's be honest. It is a burst test, not a continuous power test. He was not able to meet the listed continuous test ratings that are given. Unless you have made a deal with the devil you are still bound by the laws of physics. You don't get something for nothing unless you have installed you own little Emotiva thermal nuclear reactor in there it can't do it for more than few mili seconds!Pondering Done ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Lonnie on Oct 8, 2010 22:02:07 GMT -5
You know I have tried to explain how the power supply design works in an audio amplifier, but the nay sayers just won't listen. Here is one that will really blow their minds. Some have said there is no way we can get 625 watts out of a 600VA transformer in the UPA-5. When Gene did his measurements of the UPA-7 for his review he measured in excess of 150 watts per channel with all channels driven. Well that is 1050 watts and it only has an 850VA transformer. Ponder on that for a while. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Lonnie let's be honest. It is a burst test, not a continuous power test. He was not able to meet the listed continuous test ratings that are given. Unless you have made a deal with the devil you are still bound by the laws of physics. You don't get something for nothing unless you have installed you own little Emotiva thermal nuclear reactor in there it can't do it for more than few mili seconds!Pondering Done ;D ;D ;D I just looked again and you are right, that was the cea2006 test I was looking at. He measures 117per channel ACD. My mistake, sorry about that.
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Post by mlkmgr on Oct 8, 2010 22:24:23 GMT -5
....I would buy this without hesitation if I didn't already own a LPA-1. same here, my LPA-1 hasn't let me down yet. I am still half tempted to buy one for the heck of it at this price. maybe a second set-up somewhere....
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Post by jlafrenz on Oct 8, 2010 22:31:48 GMT -5
....I would buy this without hesitation if I didn't already own a LPA-1. same here, my LPA-1 hasn't let me down yet. I am still half tempted to buy one for the heck of it at this price. maybe a second set-up somewhere.... Second setup is always a good idea ;D It is so tempting to get one for the bedroom.
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Post by eljaycanuck on Oct 8, 2010 23:52:27 GMT -5
Like I said in another thread, I wish I needed another one because, at $399, it's practically a "sin" to pass up such an incredible deal!
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Post by NorthStar on Oct 9, 2010 0:07:25 GMT -5
Do they ship it for free to Canada? ;D
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