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Post by dunkman23 on Jan 2, 2011 4:11:54 GMT -5
is there such a thing? i received my XPA3 a week ago, and im just wondering....
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Post by Porscheguy on Jan 2, 2011 8:17:11 GMT -5
Many feel there is a benefit in letting an amp "burn in" for 20-40 hours or more. There has been some things written about the copper traces on the circuit boards "ferment" a bit over time...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2011 8:28:19 GMT -5
I am a skeptic about burn-in of electronics. Speakers and headphones are another matter as they have moving parts that loosen up with use. I would like to see some evidence from testing of copper "fermenting." To each their own and if something sounds better to you after use than enjoy!
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Post by Porscheguy on Jan 2, 2011 8:42:56 GMT -5
I am a skeptic about burn-in of electronics. Speakers and headphones are another matter as they have moving parts that loosen up with use. I would like to see some evidence from testing of copper "fermenting." To each their own and if something sounds better to you after use than enjoy! I think its a widely accepted practice in audiophile circles. I'm pretty sure my XPA-2 smoothed out a bit after I left it on for a few days... Who knows??
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2011 10:08:03 GMT -5
There are different circles of audiophiles. There are those who believe that $700 a foot cables sound better than ten dollar ones but that doesn't make the difference real. There is a placebo effect whenever one is expecting a change despite there being none. Like I said, show me some objective data.
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Post by ntrain42 on Jan 2, 2011 10:42:21 GMT -5
Id say on average it takes about 20,000 hours for full break in of an amp. Or about the same time to fry in your plasma tv.
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Post by LCSeminole on Jan 2, 2011 10:55:58 GMT -5
is there such a thing? i received my XPA3 a week ago, and im just wondering.... I personally believe that with solid state electronics, you just plug it in and use it. Tube amplifiers are a whole different story. Update us in a month and let us know if you hear a difference. To each their own, but I have had my XPA-5 for 2 years and 9 months and it sounds the exact same way now as it did the first hour of use.
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Post by ntrain42 on Jan 2, 2011 10:59:04 GMT -5
is there such a thing? i received my XPA3 a week ago, and im just wondering.... I personally believe that with solid state electronics, you just plug it in and use it. Tube amplifiers are a whole different story. Update us in a month and let us know if you hear a difference. To each their own, but I have had my XPA-5 for 2 years and 9 months and it sounds the exact same way now as it did the first hour of use. 100% truth.
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Post by buzzomatic on Jan 2, 2011 11:03:56 GMT -5
I'm with theresa. You might hear the difference, but that doesn't mean that there is a difference.
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Post by jannick on Jan 2, 2011 11:20:40 GMT -5
I'm doubtful about break-in as well, but if it is real I would attribute it to the capacitors as they are not solid state devices.
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Post by DYohn on Jan 2, 2011 11:26:54 GMT -5
I'm doubtful about break-in as well, but if it is real I would attribute it to the capacitors as they are not solid state devices. Caps do not need to break in.
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Post by monkumonku on Jan 2, 2011 11:33:49 GMT -5
There are different circles of audiophiles. There are those who believe that $700 a foot cables sound better than ten dollar ones but that doesn't make the difference real. There is a placebo effect whenever one is expecting a change despite there being none. Like I said, show me some objective data. And, what exactly does "sound better" mean? I think for some people, it means the cables make the source sound better than it really does.
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Post by raj on Jan 2, 2011 22:47:38 GMT -5
I believe in break-in period. The bass response & detail improve after approximately 50 to 60 hrs of use.
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Post by geebo on Jan 2, 2011 23:07:20 GMT -5
... the capacitors as they are not solid state devices. Really? I thought they were...Perhaps I'm about to learn something...
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Post by dunkman23 on Jan 3, 2011 18:33:05 GMT -5
ill keep u guys posted after a good month of use if i hear any difference.
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Post by rjpoint on Jan 3, 2011 19:07:08 GMT -5
After owning a tube amplifier, I would say that there is a definite break in period (not for the amp, but for the tubes). Once again that's a person to person philosophy. Solid state components, I really couldn't identify a difference from week to week, month to month or year to year. Therin lies the ecstasy, trying to find the difference during many hours of HT or 2 channel music listening in the Man Cave!
Cheers--RJ
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Post by jasonf on Jan 3, 2011 19:35:51 GMT -5
I love how nobody in the history of audio equipment has ever claimed that their equipment sounds *worse* after a given period of time/use. It always magically sounds better for some reason, regardless of what type of device it is or how it's constructed.
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Post by thepcguy on Jan 3, 2011 19:36:49 GMT -5
My brand new toaster oven needed a burn-in cycle before we can actually use it. It's needed to 'burn' manufacturing residue from the heating elements. Sure enough, a little smoke/smell was produced. The instructions said it's normal. After just one burn-in cycle, the new toaster worked flawlessly, toasting my bread to perfection!
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Post by moodyman on Jan 3, 2011 19:57:42 GMT -5
I love how nobody in the history of audio equipment has ever claimed that their equipment sounds *worse* after a given period of time/use. It always magically sounds better for some reason, regardless of what type of device it is or how it's constructed. LOL! So damn true!
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Post by Erwin.BE on Jan 3, 2011 21:18:22 GMT -5
I am a skeptic about burn-in of electronics. Speakers and headphones are another matter as they have moving parts that loosen up with use. I would like to see some evidence from testing of copper "fermenting." To each their own and if something sounds better to you after use than enjoy! +1! It's actually our brain playing tricks with us. A device will sound different after the first time but this has to do with the fact that our brain changes and evolves, internally makes new connections every second. Just read the book from Lone Frank on this subject.
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