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Post by rodmofi on Jan 20, 2015 13:08:10 GMT -5
I find that the Emotiva XPA-2 Gen 2 is also bright but in a very reveling way. I was listening to Hemispheres by Rush (96/24 Download) and the sound was so pleasing to hear as the cymbals had that maximized Sizzle effect without sounding white noised. I am driving 2 Klipsch R28F speakers per channel with the Emotiva XPA-2 Gen 2 and it is very Impressive to say the least.
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Post by vcautokid on Jan 20, 2015 14:24:26 GMT -5
Sold Parasound and Emotiva pretty well. I like the Emotiva a bit better. The detail,incredible sense of dynamics, for me send it to the top. I liked at least the HCA line which I sold. I like it's harmonic balance, and more warmth a bit.
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Post by ocezam on Jan 22, 2015 8:51:59 GMT -5
Sold Parasound and Emotiva pretty well. I like the Emotiva a bit better. The detail,incredible sense of dynamics, for me send it to the top. I liked at least the HCA line which I sold. I like it's harmonic balance, and more warmth a bit. Plus 1. This is where a lot of people say something like, "you can't beat Emotiva for the price". Well, I'd take Emotiva over Parasound at any price. This is a heck of a company that stands behind their products.
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Post by Boomzilla on Jan 22, 2015 11:44:32 GMT -5
I like Emotiva, Parasound, and Rotel for sound about equally, but Emotiva has the edge in price and quality, IMHO. Plus Emotiva's customer service can't be touched by any other maker.
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Post by vcautokid on Jan 22, 2015 14:52:16 GMT -5
Sold Parasound and Emotiva pretty well. I like the Emotiva a bit better. The detail,incredible sense of dynamics, for me send it to the top. I liked at least the HCA line which I sold. I like it's harmonic balance, and more warmth a bit. Some say that Parasounds A21 hits better on the lowend since you have heard them what you think? I was thinking of getting the A21 but the price of it for a "MOSFET" amp that's been around for as long as I can remember you would think the price should be lower.
Good points. However, very seldom unlike computerized things. Power amplifiers are expensive to make. Power supplies, chassis, and all the other stuff associated too. The A21 is a great from what friends tell me, but definitely more than Say an XPA 2. It gets tougher which I like better, but value, the XPA-2 is amazing. I would get another if I had the chance.
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Post by ocezam on Jan 22, 2015 15:13:11 GMT -5
I like Emotiva, Parasound, and Rotel for sound about equally, but Emotiva has the edge in price and quality, IMHO. Plus Emotiva's customer service can't be touched by any other maker. Yeah, in general I agree with you, but I'd actually give the edge in SQ to Emotiva also. To better Emotiva's SQ, in my opinion, you have to spend many times more, not just a few times more. Maybe I'm a a fanboy... Here's a good post that backs up my opinion. Paul McGowan, if anyone doesn't know, is one of the principles of PS Audio. He's the "P" in PS Audio. PS Audio is an extremely high end audio company. Their stuff, again in my opinion, is some of the best out there, and it's anything but cheap. This guy can afford whatever he wants. Guess what amplification he just put into his personal HT? www.psaudio.com/pauls-posts/nice-rack/P.S. (pun intended) The PS Audio P5 power supply is on my short list of next acquisitions.
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Post by teaman on Jan 22, 2015 15:49:54 GMT -5
I like Emotiva, Parasound, and Rotel for sound about equally, but Emotiva has the edge in price and quality, IMHO. Plus Emotiva's customer service can't be touched by any other maker. Yeah, in general I agree with you, but I'd actually give the edge in SQ to Emotiva also. To better Emotiva's SQ, in my opinion, you have to spend many times more, not just a few times more. Maybe I'm a a fanboy... Here's a good post that backs up my opinion. Paul McGowan, if anyone doesn't know, is one of the principles of PS Audio. He's the "P" in PS Audio. PS Audio is an extremely high end audio company. Their stuff, again in my opinion, is some of the best out there, and it's anything but cheap. This guy can afford whatever he wants. Guess what amplification he just put into his personal HT? www.psaudio.com/pauls-posts/nice-rack/P.S. (pun intended) The PS Audio P5 power supply is on my short list of next acquisitions. That is awesome to see another Audio designer give kudos for the Emotiva equipment. Outside of my buddy's Bryston equipment which I say compares favorably at seven times the cost I have not heard anything better than the Emotiva and Sherbourn equipment. I would love to someday add the PS Perfect Wave Memory Player but cannot afford to do so anytime soon.
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Post by stlaudiofan1 on Jan 22, 2015 22:35:39 GMT -5
Sold Parasound and Emotiva pretty well. I like the Emotiva a bit better. The detail,incredible sense of dynamics, for me send it to the top. I liked at least the HCA line which I sold. I like it's harmonic balance, and more warmth a bit. Some say that Parasounds A21 hits better on the lowend since you have heard them what you think? I was thinking of getting the A21 but the price of it for a "MOSFET" amp that's been around for as long as I can remember you would think the price should be lower.
I had an A21 for a while, but ended up replacing it with an old Threshold T200 100 wpc class A amp. The A21 is a great amp, with a lot of drive, but I didn't find it as musical. I'm now biamping with 4 1Ls in class A mode. That is the best amplification I have had yet.
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Post by leonski on Jan 24, 2015 15:03:51 GMT -5
This is one of those 3rd rail discusssions where opinion rules. And THAT'S Very OK. Everybody is entitled. ME? When I went shopping to UPGRADE from my PSAudio GCC series integrated, I sure as heck looked EMO over. I'm VERY picky and deleted a few of the EMO amps upong reading specs and looking at a few of the pics. For example, one of 'em had the speaker binding posts at OPPOSITE sides of the amp? Maybe 12" or futher apart. Sorry. Another had a class 'G' power supply. This, as I understand it, uses multiple voltage RAILS which are accessed as demanded. Nope. Additional complexity is not my thing. Don't want or need the Hernia Inducing monos while they ARE attractive being REAL balanced designs which take advantage of Balanced interconnects. I finally settled on the 1L mono as my 'target amp'. And since I was biamping, (working on Line Level crossovers now). A good combination of power and features. Decent rear panel layout too. I'm not worried about it probably not sounding its 'best' for 30 minutes to an HOUR after 'on', so that's ok, too. The DISadvantage was needing 4 outlets. I'd be needing a 2nd dedicated circuit. A pair of amps PER CIRCUIT would be how it shook out. And further, I'd need 'double decker' amp stands, one in back of EACH speaker.
BTW, I found the PSAudio, which uses B&O ICE modules from the ASP series to not give me long-term satisfaction. The highs eventually got to me. I can only speculate as to WHY this was. Maybe the output Zobel and HF cutoff? Most 'd' amps have poor 10khz squarewave and this means phase shift in-band which with my phase sensitive panels, maybe a no-go? Believe me when I say I experimented a LOT with setup. Toe in/out. Spacing between AND from wall. Mylar front or rear and even tweeter IN or OUT. Panel owner will know what I'm talkin' about. It can be a PIA until you find that 'sweet' spot.
But I DID end up with Parasound. The A23 is a great little brother to the A21. And with one per speaker, the power is the SAME while being within 1db of the amp they replaced. Probably closer, since now I'm using a low-cut filter to the main speakers and shifting the burden to the sub. A few of the added features were of benefit to me, like the loop thru feature where each channel has an RCA OUTPUT. So I ran a single cable to each amp and looped to the OTHER channel. Level controls are nice, but will eventually be replaced with FIXED FILM RESISTORS. The Potentiameter now in the circuit can't be helping. And I don't need it. The P5 preamp with its flexible bass management and other features (front panel sub level! how's THAT?) made it a no-brainer.
Enjoy:
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Post by solidstate on Jan 24, 2015 18:22:53 GMT -5
You can't go wrong with a quad differential amp like the XPA-1L. The 2U chassis is also a big plus! I currently have a stack of UPA-1s and wish to upgrade to those XPA-1Ls!!!
Make sure you feed them a balanced signal as it would make no sense to buy a truly differential amp and feed it a single ended signal!
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Post by leonski on Jan 24, 2015 22:57:25 GMT -5
The A21/23 and P5 aren't true balanced. I think the JC-1 IS. And while Balanced IS a cool deal, the advantage for normal length runs is mostly theoretical. I use balanced from DAC to PRE. Mogami makes some good cables in the form of 'Studio Gold'. Guitar Center will have them in 6 foot lengths.
The 1L is my 'choice' of EMO amps. And yes, the size is perfect and 'doable'. I couldn't imagine hustling around 60 or 80lb of amp!
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