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Post by esquire on Nov 11, 2011 8:41:48 GMT -5
Very favorable review in December's Stereo review.
"..a convincing and captivating performance."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2011 7:12:36 GMT -5
I will keep an eye out for it. thanks
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2011 11:15:30 GMT -5
well, well, well... what a very impressive review from Stephen Meijas on the ERC-2. I've only listened to this player once or twice casually but I remember the ERC-1 quite well (owned it for a spell). Stephen talked about: build quality: manly, hefty, well built  aesthetics: doesn't appreciate, style he does not prefer  performance / sound: dead quiet, low end taut and well controlled, dynamic, open, detailed, revealing, involving   ;D  His conclusion was that regardless of cost, hi-fi components should make you want to listen to more music. What he refers to is the emotion evoking aspect of listening to great music on a fine sounding system. On that mark, I would venture that he thought the ERC-1 scored very well. Impressive. Way to go, Emotiva! ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2011 11:53:54 GMT -5
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Post by House on Nov 14, 2011 16:43:33 GMT -5
will have erc thursday to let my ears feast themselves upon :-) $369...got to love it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2011 19:51:37 GMT -5
will have erc thursday to let my ears feast themselves upon :-) $369...got to love it. awesome! and jealous.. please let us know your thoughts. I wish I had paid more attention to this unit at Emofest.  |
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Post by dad311 on Nov 14, 2011 20:51:29 GMT -5
I've always wondered if a stand alone CD player sounds better then a flac file being streamed. Can someone answer this? If so why.
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Post by lar on Nov 14, 2011 21:15:08 GMT -5
I've always wondered if a stand alone CD player sounds better then a flac file being streamed. Can someone answer this? If so why. My flac streamed files sound better then my CD player, but it all depends on your system.  |
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Post by Pauly on Nov 14, 2011 22:39:10 GMT -5
That will completely depend on the equipment being used. If you're comparing flac being played with a below average DAC vs a high end CDP with a superior DAC, then it's obvious that the CDP will most likely sound better and vice versa. But if both are being played with digital interconnects and being processed by your pre/pro or receiver, then most people won't be able to tell a difference. However, some people can't tell a difference between a $2,000 DAC and $50 Wal-Mart special. So it's really dependent on the user and their ears as well.
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Post by firethebomb on Nov 16, 2011 15:53:29 GMT -5
I bought the USP-1 and ERC-2 a while back and finally tested them out the other night and I was blown away. I've never been a huge audiophilist nor was I sure I would hear a difference from a PS3 (which is what I have been using), but I wanted to take the chance and see once and for all and I can say that in the end, I am very happy I did.
The USP-1 adds quite a lot as well so if you are thiking about getting the ERC-2, make sure you have something like the USP with it. The clear sound I get once it's on is just astounding. I'm not sure what I am more impressed with out of the two machines. But both together have made me rweally want to listen to more cd's.
Plus, the lights are asthetically pleasing and soothing. So far, I love my early experience with Emotiva. Can't wait to try my amps with my home theater once I get it all set up.
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Post by davel on Nov 17, 2011 18:38:46 GMT -5
I agree with Sterophie. I purchased an ERC-2 in July and am extremely pleased with the unit. At first I thought it was a little bright in sound and now afther 4 months and cycling through vitually every cd I own, I hands down recomend this player.
Its my opinion, but with a 30 day return policy I recomend giving it a try. The build quality is excellent, the remote is probably over kill. The detail is amazing. Good luck and enjoy more music.
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Post by House on Nov 18, 2011 10:15:24 GMT -5
will have erc thursday to let my ears feast themselves upon :-) $369...got to love it. awesome! and jealous.. please let us know your thoughts. I wish I had paid more attention to this unit at Emofest. My thoughts.....simply put between my Rotel 1045 DVD/CD Player and the ERC-2...its like turning the light switch on...or off really..... The ERC hooked up through XLR Vs. thee Rotel with Optical was incredibly different....and yea im terrible explaining how...but I will say its got to be the clearest sound ive heard out of $369 ;-) I thought my Rotel sounded good for a "cheap $500 DVD player" Now I just feel like it sounds like poo......oh well now i have two sources lol FYI: I didnt feel like this player was bright at all....and I even have alum. tweets....I'm sure yes if i had silks it would be more relaxed but thats a whole new subject. ERC-2-->XDA-1--->XPA-2---> Ultra Cables--->B&W 683's have also been slowly adding room treatments to this 14x16 bedroom of mine and am a very firm believer in them and had wished I got into it years ago. |
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Post by roadrunner on Nov 18, 2011 21:13:29 GMT -5
House
I totally agree with you... on both the ERC-2 and the room treatments. Some people initially think the ERC-2 is too bright because they have not heard such clean, clear treble response from a CD Player before. Many CD Players roll off the trebles and/or do not have the clarity that the ERC-2 has.
When the ERC-1 came out we had Lounge members who compared it against the sound quality of many, many high priced CD Players. The ERC-1 was found to match or exceed the performance of CD Players costing up to ten times its price. Secrets of Home Theater... tested it and compared the sound quality to an esoteric CD Player costing 27 times the price and found the ERC-1 nearly matched it overall performance. That speaks volumes.
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Post by corgidog59 on Nov 20, 2011 8:42:49 GMT -5
Roadrunner,
Great summary but given your comments, why is the XDA-1 not more favorably received by owners/reviewers? All things being equal, I bought it when it first came out because to me it was the ERC-1 with out the transport. But a number of owners on this forum have not like the XDA-1 which does not make logical sense to me. How can the ERC-1 be a critical success and the XDA-1 not? Inquiring minds want to know.
Thanks :-)
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Post by monkumonku on Dec 15, 2011 23:46:01 GMT -5
I got the January issue yesterday and just looked at it today. Page 49 has a followup article on the ERC-2, (1) comparing the sound quality to the Sony Playstation 1, and (2) switching out the power cord. My two cents - this article is ridiculous. Comparing the ERC-2 with the PS1, reviewer Stephen Mejias states that the Emo had the better low end, as well as cleaner, more extended highs but the Sony's midrange sounded better; the PS1 also had an overall smoothness and ease to its sound that the ERC-2 couldn't offer. Okay, fine - that's his opinion and I respect that (he was very positive about the ERC-2). What I thought was silly was this description he used: " ...[the recordings] felt looser and more diffuse through the Sony, but, surprisingly, was no less rhythmically assured." Now what the heck does "rhythmically assured" mean??? That somehow the PS1 runs at a different speed than the ERC-2? This reviewer is by no means the only one that uses nonsensical phrases to describe what he is hearing, and Stereophile certainly has its share of such things among its reviews (though it is prevalent in the audio review industry). I just thought that was one silly phrase to use. Next, he swapped out the stock power cord for an Audio Quest NRG-X3. He reported that the AQ cable uses "strands of long-grain copper." And that AQ's Shane Buettner explained, "With typical bundled conductors, distortion is caused when the signal jumps from strand to strand as the strands weave in and out of position down the length of the cable. Our long-grain copper's greater purity and smoother grain structure, compared with conventional copper conductors, further reduce distortion." What a load of you know what!!!!!!   Oh, so this 6 feet of cord somehow compensates for the miles of other electrical cable from the power station to your house, and also the tainted, dirty, unpure wiring that Emo uses inside of its equipment? Power is power. Unless you are using a defective cord or one that is too thin to handle the current running through it (highly unlikely for something like an ERC-2), a cord is a cord is a cord. Yes, I know there will be those who lambast me and say don't knock it if I haven't tried it. True, I have never heard any difference between cords but then I've never had a truly expensive cord in my house. The most expensive one is the X-Series I bought from Emo but it sounds no different from any other cord. I don't need to try these cords, there is no basis whatsoever for one competently made power cord to sound different from another. Especially when explained by the hooey that this AQ guy tried to foist off with a straight face. BUT... as you might expect, the reviewer was impressed by the improvement in sound made by the AQ cord versus the Emo stock cord. I am not quoting his flowery quackery descriptions because it is too much to type and I've typed enough already. Get the January issue and see for yourself. All I have to say is, GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Folks who regularly visit the lounge know I am not one to normally go postal, but this just got me going... I think that's the last straw. How much of this idiotic stuff can I read before going berserk? I guess I found the limit. |
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Post by Porscheguy on Dec 15, 2011 23:49:53 GMT -5
You go Rickie.... :-) :-)
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Post by monkumonku on Dec 15, 2011 23:50:48 GMT -5
You go Rickie.... :-) :-) Right on! |
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Post by dcg44s on Dec 16, 2011 0:41:17 GMT -5
What shocks me is to find out that a Sony PS1 is such a killer CD player that it is being used as a reference player for comparisons.Why I could have gotten one of those for next to nothing at the flea market.Why didn't someone tell me? |
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Post by NorthStar on Dec 16, 2011 0:47:02 GMT -5
I got the January issue yesterday and just looked at it today. Page 49 has a followup article on the ERC-2, (1) comparing the sound quality to the Sony Playstation 1, and (2) switching out the power cord. My two cents - this article is ridiculous. Comparing the ERC-2 with the PS1, reviewer Stephen Mejias states that the Emo had the better low end, as well as cleaner, more extended highs but the Sony's midrange sounded better; the PS1 also had an overall smoothness and ease to its sound that the ERC-2 couldn't offer. Okay, fine - that's his opinion and I respect that (he was very positive about the ERC-2). What I thought was silly was this description he used: " ...[the recordings] felt looser and more diffuse through the Sony, but, surprisingly, was no less rhythmically assured." Now what the heck does "rhythmically assured" mean??? That somehow the PS1 runs at a different speed than the ERC-2? This reviewer is by no means the only one that uses nonsensical phrases to describe what he is hearing, and Stereophile certainly has its share of such things among its reviews (though it is prevalent in the audio review industry). I just thought that was one silly phrase to use. Next, he swapped out the stock power cord for an Audio Quest NRG-X3. He reported that the AQ cable uses "strands of long-grain copper." And that AQ's Shane Buettner explained, "With typical bundled conductors, distortion is caused when the signal jumps from strand to strand as the strands weave in and out of position down the length of the cable. Our long-grain copper's greater purity and smoother grain structure, compared with conventional copper conductors, further reduce distortion." What a load of you know what!!!!!! Oh, so this 6 feet of cord somehow compensates for the miles of other electrical cable from the power station to your house, and also the tainted, dirty, unpure wiring that Emo uses inside of its equipment? Power is power. Unless you are using a defective cord or one that is too thin to handle the current running through it (highly unlikely for something like an ERC-2), a cord is a cord is a cord. Yes, I know there will be those who lambast me and say don't knock it if I haven't tried it. True, I have never heard any difference between cords but then I've never had a truly expensive cord in my house. The most expensive one is the X-Series I bought from Emo but it sounds no different from any other cord. I don't need to try these cords, there is no basis whatsoever for one competently made power cord to sound different from another. Especially when explained by the hooey that this AQ guy tried to foist off with a straight face. BUT... as you might expect, the reviewer was impressed by the improvement in sound made by the AQ cord versus the Emo stock cord. I am not quoting his flowery quackery descriptions because it is too much to type and I've typed enough already. Get the January issue and see for yourself. All I have to say is, GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Folks who regularly visit the lounge know I am not one to normally go postal, but this just got me going... I think that's the last straw. How much of this idiotic stuff can I read before going berserk? I guess I found the limit. Well, that is part of Stereophile; we all know about this (well, most of us experienced people anyway). Watch this reviewer carefully now... |
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Post by NorthStar on Dec 16, 2011 0:48:46 GMT -5
What shocks me is to find out that a Sony PS1 is such a killer CD player that it is being used as a reference player for comparisons.Why I could have gotten one of those for next to nothing at the flea market.Why didn't someone tell me? The PS1 ($20 average) is Stereophile's secret weapon! ;D And it has been for many years. |
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