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Post by ausman on Mar 9, 2012 14:14:08 GMT -5
I was just looking at the diagram of the xlr cable, just wondered why it denotes 2 wires instead of 3...
it might be a diagram oversight though just wanting to know whether it is a 2-wire or 3-wire configuration
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Post by roadrunner on Mar 9, 2012 14:24:02 GMT -5
I was just looking at the diagram of the xlr cable, just wondered why it denotes 2 wires instead of 3... it might be a diagram oversight though just wanting to know whether it is a 2-wire or 3-wire configuration It is a 3-wire configuration. The two main wires go to two of the connections and the copper shield will go to the ground (3rd connection) in the XLR. |
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Post by harri009 on Mar 9, 2012 14:24:20 GMT -5
My understanding is that the ground is wired to the shielding.
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Post by RichGuy on Mar 9, 2012 18:47:02 GMT -5
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Post by ausman on Mar 9, 2012 19:01:33 GMT -5
I was looking at the wiring diagram for emo xlr cables..
they indicated 2-wire not standard 3-wire that i would of expected to see on a xlr-xlr cable...
the ground to the shielding i understand if i were to use xlr-rca conversion cables.. though xlr-xlr i would of expected to see a 3-wire shielded cable something equivilent to 10-15 amp power cable..
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Post by roadrunner on Mar 9, 2012 19:11:49 GMT -5
I was looking at the wiring diagram for emo xlr cables.. they indicated 2-wire not standard 3-wire that i would of expected to see on a xlr-xlr cable... the ground to the shielding i understand if i were to use xlr-rca conversion cables.. though xlr-xlr i would of expected to see a 3-wire shielded cable something equivilent to 10-15 amp power cable.. It is not done that way on any of the XLR cables I have ever used. They all did it the same way Emotiva is doing it. The Emotiva has two shields, and the copper shield is connected to the ground. |
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Post by stiehl11 on Mar 9, 2012 21:36:31 GMT -5
I was looking at the wiring diagram for emo xlr cables.. they indicated 2-wire not standard 3-wire that i would of expected to see on a xlr-xlr cable... the ground to the shielding i understand if i were to use xlr-rca conversion cables.. though xlr-xlr i would of expected to see a 3-wire shielded cable something equivilent to 10-15 amp power cable.. I thought you were well read in hi-fi and posted at AVS as well as here? What did they tell you at that forum? |
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Post by bobbyt on Mar 9, 2012 23:49:47 GMT -5
I thought you were well read in hi-fi and posted at AVS as well as here? What did they tell you at that forum? I thought he just made stuff up as he went along. Anyway, from en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanced_audio: "A typical balanced cable contains two identical wires, which are twisted together and then wrapped with a third conductor (foil or braid) that acts as a shield." The Belden 1800F that Blue Jeans Cable uses for their balanced interconnects is also shielded twisted pair:  |
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Post by Darksky on Mar 9, 2012 23:56:41 GMT -5
Nice link, brother. Thank you for the education. |
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Post by stiehl11 on Mar 10, 2012 0:06:15 GMT -5
I thought you were well read in hi-fi and posted at AVS as well as here? What did they tell you at that forum? I thought he just made stuff up as he went along. Nope, he's well versed in HT and hi-fi with several subscriptions to many periodicals on the subject. He is also a well respected member of several audio forums such as AVS. Or, so he said in a different post. And, he's never wrong; because when he's wrong he always comes back and says so (from a different post). |
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Post by ausman on Mar 10, 2012 1:34:53 GMT -5
to be honest i never posed the xlr question until now..
go and look on the fricken diagram on the xlr spec page in the shop, that's why i asked the question initially stiehl as I did not know looking at the site richguy posted and comparing it to the emo diagram and the emo looks different.. the illustration kind of made me think of a xlr-rca cable that was all!!!
I haven't really dealt in xlr cables before I started asking about them..
my field of connection has been purely based on rca-rca connection...
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Post by bobbyt on Mar 10, 2012 22:56:45 GMT -5
What "field of connection" would that be?
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Post by ÈlTwo on Mar 11, 2012 8:56:58 GMT -5
The reason ausman knows so much is because he asks questions when he doesn't know, and says "I don't know" instead of guessing.
Isn't that how we all learn? I know I do, and I have a lot left to learn.
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Post by stiehl11 on Mar 11, 2012 14:37:59 GMT -5
^I smell sarcasm...
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Post by ÈlTwo on Mar 11, 2012 15:43:46 GMT -5
Nope, not being sarcastic at all. There is nothing I appreciate more than honesty, especially when I go into a store selling electronics. If a salesperson says "I don't know, I'll go ask," or "I didn't know that," I appreciate their honesty. You can't learn if you don't ask.
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Post by dcg44s on Mar 11, 2012 16:06:42 GMT -5
Nope, not being sarcastic at all. There is nothing I appreciate more than honesty, especially when I go into a store selling electronics. If a salesperson says "I don't know, I'll go ask," or "I didn't know that," I appreciate their honesty. You can't learn if you don't ask. I agree completely on sales people.Too many times I have caught them BSing me rather than admitting that they don't know the answer.I respect them much more if they say "I don't know,but I will find out." |
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Post by stiehl11 on Mar 11, 2012 21:47:06 GMT -5
Nope, not being sarcastic at all. There is nothing I appreciate more than honesty, especially when I go into a store selling electronics. If a salesperson says "I don't know, I'll go ask," or "I didn't know that," I appreciate their honesty. You can't learn if you don't ask. You're not too familiar with ausman's "recommendations" then; when, because he read it somewhere, he feels obligated to inform the OP of a thread about what they should spend their money on when on a budget. I'm sure that, considering his previous posts (more than one) where pulling several thousands of dollars out of the tail on a limited budget is an easy thing, what he ends up with will be nothing short of the best that he's recommended to others in the past. In particular I remember someone posting about which amps were needed for a limited budget and about 700 square foot of space with efficient speakers and he recommended bi-amped XPA-1s (or something like that). By way of comparison, with only a XPA-2 and 5 for his 7 channels (far less than his required 11.2 setups he's recommended) his HT room should be about the size of a closet.  Personally, from what he's publicly stated about the gear that he currently has, I don't know why he doesn't go for something like Phase Technology's DP-2000 (with 16 channels of 250w and Audyssey) and some nice dArts speakers. It gives him exactly what he's recommended to others at a fraction of the cost. This would take care of his speakers and amp(s) solution while adding the XMC-1 to do everything else. The dArts system has been well received by the audiophile press with numerous good reviews and owners around the world. Hell, he might even best my set up! ;D A couple different dArts set ups just went on Audiogon recently for a fraction of what they cost new. |
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Post by ÈlTwo on Mar 12, 2012 8:37:17 GMT -5
I was only referring to knowledge of facts; recommendations are merely opinions, and everybody has one. ;D
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