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Post by tattooDan on Mar 14, 2012 20:06:00 GMT -5
Depends on the description of the car! I have bought a car sight unseen with a good and accurate description...Also sold two that way as well... well,that's great that you can do that,personally,doesn't matter if it's $10 or $10,000,ya,I want pictures,if I buy a blue camera and you send me a red one,at least if i had pictures I would have some kind of ammunition to defend my refund ! pictures are a contract in a way,I sell a lot of things on ebay,and pics are everything IMO. pictures are a way to prove that what you got was NOT what you paid for ,it works both ways too,if the seller gets told it was not what he claimed. |
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Post by lseries on Mar 14, 2012 20:09:29 GMT -5
I assume you haven't bought any high value items, perhaps over 5k online? Or that generic google images is ok? There's no way to prove you have an item with pictures?? Really??? Nice try... What you said was "I would imagine a picture will also go into proving you actually have the item." That is NOT the same as "There's no way to prove you have an item with pictures??" And you ASSume wrong. Have bought plenty of high ticket items online without pictures..... Exactly. "a picture will ALSO go into proving you actually have the item" What's there to argue? |
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Post by bob (aka arse) on Mar 14, 2012 20:11:54 GMT -5
so, if I post a picture of a Ferrari, I have one? :-)
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Post by lseries on Mar 14, 2012 20:13:55 GMT -5
so, if I post a picture of a Ferrari, I have one? :-) If I asked you to post a picture with YOU in one with the pink slip. lol. Or should I just tell you I have one with detailed/accurate description? |
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Post by bob (aka arse) on Mar 14, 2012 20:14:06 GMT -5
Now, I will go one further...Guys like you that require a picture.... So you see an ad for a "flawless upa2" at a good price. You then say you are "interested" but want to see a picture of it. I see the same ad 5 minutes later and send a PM to the guy and say "I will take it". Should the seller then have to go through the bother of taking a picture and emailing it to you and then wait for your answer, or does he get to sell it to me? ;D I want peoples opinion on the above! C'mon! |
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Post by bob (aka arse) on Mar 14, 2012 20:15:15 GMT -5
so, if I post a picture of a Ferrari, I have one? :-) If I asked you to post a picture with YOU in one with the pink slip. lol. Or should I just tell you I have one with detailed/accurate description? Yes, because a picture could never be altered...besides how would you know the pic was of ME? :-) |
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Post by tattooDan on Mar 14, 2012 20:16:34 GMT -5
so, if I post a picture of a Ferrari, I have one? :-) no,but to buy a car or anything without seeing it is just stupid IMO, all my ebay sales have pics,and that way if I take someones money and then send them the item at least they know they got what they expected. |
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Post by lseries on Mar 14, 2012 20:19:20 GMT -5
If I asked you to post a picture with YOU in one with the pink slip. lol. Or should I just tell you I have one with detailed/accurate description? Yes, because a picture could never be altered...besides how would you know the pic was of ME? :-) I imagine if you have a Ferrari you will have a smartphone with a camera. So to play your game and continue to go in circles, take a picture of you in the car with the pink slip with the clock in the background and newspaper and send it within 1 min by MMS phone. Good luck altering that in 1 min. |
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Post by bob (aka arse) on Mar 14, 2012 20:19:54 GMT -5
so, if I post a picture of a Ferrari, I have one? :-) no,but to buy a car or anything without seeing it is just stupid IMO, all my ebay sales have pics,and that way if I take someones money and then send them the item at least they know they got what they expected. and again because pics ALWAYS accurately describe/show/tell the items condition... :-) |
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Post by bob (aka arse) on Mar 14, 2012 20:21:00 GMT -5
Yes, because a picture could never be altered...besides how would you know the pic was of ME? :-) I imagine if you have a Ferrari you will have a smartphone with a camera. So to play your game and continue to go in circles, take a picture of you in the car with the pink slip with the clock in the background and newspaper and send it within 1 min by MMS phone. Good luck altering that in 1 min. I would think that if I was selling a Ferrari I would be having someone else do all that boring work! :-) |
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Post by lseries on Mar 14, 2012 20:22:18 GMT -5
I imagine if you have a Ferrari you will have a smartphone with a camera. So to play your game and continue to go in circles, take a picture of you in the car with the pink slip with the clock in the background and newspaper and send it within 1 min by MMS phone. Good luck altering that in 1 min. I would think that if I was selling a Ferrari I would be having someone else do all that boring work! :-) Good one.  |
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Post by Leon on Mar 14, 2012 20:27:24 GMT -5
I like to post pictures and I like to see them when buying or selling.
Someone's description of "Good condition" is normally very different from mine.
Sometimes a well taken picture is enough to place confidence in a reluctant buyer and complete the sale.
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Post by tattooDan on Mar 14, 2012 20:29:32 GMT -5
no,but to buy a car or anything without seeing it is just stupid IMO, all my ebay sales have pics,and that way if I take someones money and then send them the item at least they know they got what they expected. and again because pics ALWAYS accurately describe/show/tell the items condition... :-) yes,my pics do |
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Post by bob (aka arse) on Mar 14, 2012 20:34:23 GMT -5
I would think that the MAIN factor in buying something sight unseen would depend on a persons reputation more so than actual pics. There are numerous people on this forum I would not hesitate to buy something from without pics. (like Barry's MPS2) I can see it both ways..people want pics because they feel it gives them a sense of security, but I also see people that post pics that are using that to scam people as well. It gives that person a sense of security because they see a pic even if the other person boosted that pic from somewhere...
Bottom line is that it is all about YOUR comfort level. There is no "right" or "wrong"...
Now that we have agreed to disagree, let's discuss "DIBS"! This practice really frosts my flakes!
This buyer calls "dibs" until he sees more pictures and has his 75 million questions answered! According to this "dibs" rule a seller is expected to bow and scrape to the caller of "dibs" even if someone else sees the item for sale and says "I want it". Noooooooooo, we must give the "dibs" caller ample time to have his first right of refusal...
Horse Hockey I say! Money talks! What do you guys think?
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Post by tattooDan on Mar 14, 2012 20:43:20 GMT -5
I would think that the MAIN factor in buying something sight unseen would depend on a persons reputation more so than actual pics. There are numerous people on this forum I would not hesitate to buy something from without pics. (like Barry's MPS2) I can see it both ways..people want pics because they feel it gives them a sense of security, but I also see people that post pics that are using that to scam people as well. It gives that person a sense of security because they see a pic even if the other person boosted that pic from somewhere... Bottom line is that it is all about YOUR comfort level. There is no "right" or "wrong"... Now that we have agreed to disagree, let's discuss "DIBS"! This practice really frosts my flakes! This buyer calls "dibs" until he sees more pictures and has his 75 million questions answered! According to this "dibs" rule a seller is expected to bow and scrape to the caller of "dibs" even if someone else sees the item for sale and says "I want it". Noooooooooo, we must give the "dibs" caller ample time to have his first right of refusal... Horse Hockey I say! Money talks! What do you guys think? dam ! I thought you meant www.dreyers.com/brand/dibs/index.asp?b=1391 |
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Post by bob (aka arse) on Mar 14, 2012 20:46:04 GMT -5
I would think that the MAIN factor in buying something sight unseen would depend on a persons reputation more so than actual pics. There are numerous people on this forum I would not hesitate to buy something from without pics. (like Barry's MPS2) I can see it both ways..people want pics because they feel it gives them a sense of security, but I also see people that post pics that are using that to scam people as well. It gives that person a sense of security because they see a pic even if the other person boosted that pic from somewhere... Bottom line is that it is all about YOUR comfort level. There is no "right" or "wrong"... Now that we have agreed to disagree, let's discuss "DIBS"! This practice really frosts my flakes! This buyer calls "dibs" until he sees more pictures and has his 75 million questions answered! According to this "dibs" rule a seller is expected to bow and scrape to the caller of "dibs" even if someone else sees the item for sale and says "I want it". Noooooooooo, we must give the "dibs" caller ample time to have his first right of refusal... Horse Hockey I say! Money talks! What do you guys think? dam ! I thought you meant www.dreyers.com/brand/dibs/index.asp?b=1391LOL!!!! I had forgotten about those! ;D |
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Post by jephdood on Mar 14, 2012 22:04:30 GMT -5
Pics are a MUST for me. What is "excellent condition" to one person may be a bit beat to another. I'm picky about the condition of my gear, and mint better be blemish-free, not close enough. Pics (good ones, not blurry cell shots) are essential.
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Post by knucklehead on Mar 14, 2012 22:10:22 GMT -5
I would think that the MAIN factor in buying something sight unseen would depend on a persons reputation more so than actual pics. There are numerous people on this forum I would not hesitate to buy something from without pics. (like Barry's MPS2) I can see it both ways..people want pics because they feel it gives them a sense of security, but I also see people that post pics that are using that to scam people as well. It gives that person a sense of security because they see a pic even if the other person boosted that pic from somewhere... Bottom line is that it is all about YOUR comfort level. There is no "right" or "wrong"... Now that we have agreed to disagree, let's discuss "DIBS"! This practice really frosts my flakes! This buyer calls "dibs" until he sees more pictures and has his 75 million questions answered! According to this "dibs" rule a seller is expected to bow and scrape to the caller of "dibs" even if someone else sees the item for sale and says "I want it". Noooooooooo, we must give the "dibs" caller ample time to have his first right of refusal... Horse Hockey I say! Money talks! What do you guys think? Money talks - BS walks. I'm selling my near mint 2001 Harley locally. I've had a few guys fawning over the pictures and wanting to know if it looks as good in the flesh as it does in the pictures. Yes it does. The next thing a few have wanted me to do is 'hold' it for them until they can come take a look. I won't do that. I will hold it for up to one month with a $500 non-refundable deposit. The usual reply is "Well...what if I decide I don't want it"? My answer is "What if someone else wants it and would have bought it"? 30 days will cost you $500 if you decide to change your mind. |
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Post by grapeape on Mar 14, 2012 22:17:51 GMT -5
Agreed. I can give a seller some time to have a few questions answered and drop by to see an item, but I have been burned enough times that I'm not holding something. Good pictures reduce this dance but nothing gets me more than holding an item and getting an email after a no-show or when you're suppose to meet - oh I found it cheaper, changed my mind, can you sell for lower... bah. |
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Post by dcg44s on Mar 14, 2012 22:45:14 GMT -5
I much prefer to see pictures included in listings of items for sale whether it be here,eBay,craigslist,etc. and I am more hesitant to purchase without them.Personally I think items sell better when you do include pictures and since it is so easy I don't know why sellers don't include them.The biggest reason for pictures in my opinion is to judge condition of used items.One man's excellent might only rate good to another.
Now having said that,I have before and I'm sure will in the future make purchases without pictures if it is something that I really want,the deal is right,and the seller gives me reason to have confidence in them.
I do not think that there should be any rule or requirement that a seller include pictures.Let the seller decide if he wants to include pictures and let the buyers decide if they are comfortable buying without them or let them request the pictures.
What bothers me more are sellers who come in here and use their first post to list an item for sale.They might be perfectly legit but somehow it just doesn't seem right to me and with zero reputation to go on it really triggers my "buyers beware" .
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