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Post by redrick on Oct 11, 2012 10:38:15 GMT -5
Hello everybody!
Is there someone that knows if it's planned a new firmware update on the UMC-1?
The last update id dated november 2011...and the unit is not perfect (by reading the open issues expressed on the forum).
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Post by mfmathis on Oct 12, 2012 12:48:10 GMT -5
I've been wondering about that too. The November 2011 update fixed a lot of issues, but there are still some remaining like extremely slow HDMI switching, still having audio loss after FF or RW or Pause on Directv, and also a lot of random audio dropouts (not repeatable).
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Post by stiehl11 on Oct 12, 2012 12:51:09 GMT -5
I (and others) talked to Lonnie about this during Emofest. To my understanding of the conversation the UMC-1 will never be left orphaned by Emotiva. But, at the time of the conversation there are no new firmware packages on the near-horizon.
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Post by suffolk112000 on Oct 13, 2012 8:30:39 GMT -5
I've been wondering about that too. The November 2011 update fixed a lot of issues, but there are still some remaining like extremely slow HDMI switching, still having audio loss after FF or RW or Pause on Directv, and also a lot of random audio dropouts (not repeatable). I have DirecTV and have never noticed audio drop outs after pausing and FF. I’m gonna have to pay more attention to the behavior of my UMC-1 I guess. Today will be a good day to do this because I’ll be watching the Detroit Tigers in game one of the play-offs. I’d be curious to know, what do you consider to be slow switching? I have 3 DirecTV receivers in my home. One is a DVR. My UMC-1 is connected to my DVR. My receivers take approx. 3 seconds to pick up A/V signals. My DVR/UMC-1 combo takes about 4 or 5 seconds. But I attribute the extra delay as nothing more than a result of the fact that my A/V equipment, UMC-1 and DVR included is housed in a separate room from my dedicated home theater. (40ft cable run) By comparison, my previous combo in my HT was no better. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 13, 2012 12:22:03 GMT -5
I have the FF/REW problem with a Dish DVR, it causes random noises - a static popping type sound - but I'm not waiting or expecting a fix, just hoping the XMC-1 won't have it.  |
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Post by mfmathis on Oct 14, 2012 15:38:10 GMT -5
I've been wondering about that too. The November 2011 update fixed a lot of issues, but there are still some remaining like extremely slow HDMI switching, still having audio loss after FF or RW or Pause on Directv, and also a lot of random audio dropouts (not repeatable). I have DirecTV and have never noticed audio drop outs after pausing and FF. I’m gonna have to pay more attention to the behavior of my UMC-1 I guess. Today will be a good day to do this because I’ll be watching the Detroit Tigers in game one of the play-offs. I’d be curious to know, what do you consider to be slow switching? I have 3 DirecTV receivers in my home. One is a DVR. My UMC-1 is connected to my DVR. My receivers take approx. 3 seconds to pick up A/V signals. My DVR/UMC-1 combo takes about 4 or 5 seconds. But I attribute the extra delay as nothing more than a result of the fact that my A/V equipment, UMC-1 and DVR included is housed in a separate room from my dedicated home theater. (40ft cable run) By comparison, my previous combo in my HT was no better. Just curious if you have your Directv DVR set to "30 SLIP" or "30 SKIP" as far as FF'ing goes, I have mine set for "30 SKIP", also when switching from one HDMI source to another HDMI source takes about 8 seconds. |
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Post by redrick on Oct 15, 2012 4:55:19 GMT -5
So....let's wait with hope!
I think there's also a bug or something similar in Dolby Volume...
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Post by calvinhobbe on Oct 16, 2012 7:09:45 GMT -5
I've been wondering about that too. The November 2011 update fixed a lot of issues, but there are still some remaining like extremely slow HDMI switching, still having audio loss after FF or RW or Pause on Directv, and also a lot of random audio dropouts (not repeatable). They had promised one back last Dec (2011) along with the 3D board and some additional TBD "thank you's" for the long time sufferers...but all that faded into the sunset as quickly as delivery dates seem to do at Emo. |
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Post by tmassey on Oct 16, 2012 8:10:29 GMT -5
I am starting to wonder if those are hardware problems that can't be corrected through firmware updates. It seems they know exactly where these problems are coming from as they didn't seem to be effecting the newer UMC models. I'm no EE either though, so who knows.
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Post by redrick on Oct 18, 2012 3:33:34 GMT -5
This doesn't seem a good news...
But, from my point of view, there are things that can be fixed.
For example, Dolby Volume behaviour changes from a firmware release to another (and some things seems better in previous versions).
More important, if Emotiva wants to push their UMC1 customers to upgrade to XMC1, they must give the necessary reliability on the system. Otherwise I'll think three times on the possible upgrade....give more money to have bugs is not my best dream!
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Post by jjmatrix on Oct 18, 2012 6:25:26 GMT -5
They had promised one back last Dec (2011) along with the 3D board and some additional TBD "thank you's" for the long time sufferers...but all that faded into the sunset as quickly as delivery dates seem to do at Emo. Yes, I remember reading about that; one big FW that will fix 99% of all issues reported since the last update along with the 3D board; I might be mistaken, but I remember something like $199 for the 3D capabilities along with the usual Emo procedure: they will install and ship back your UMC-1 for free (in the US). |
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Post by bmwfreak on Oct 18, 2012 7:14:45 GMT -5
I'll go out on a limb and say the majority of people will simply save their $199 and put it toward their $900 upgrade of the XMC-1. Unless of course they are planning to keep it as a backup, bedroom system or anything else like that. I realize this stuff loses its value a little but I paid $699 for it and adding $199 puts it at $900. The exact price of the XMC1.
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Post by Ramair on Oct 18, 2012 10:02:30 GMT -5
Hey...to be fair, the above mentioned board and TBD "stuff" is supposed to be packed in the yet to be released ERS-212 shipping container.  |
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Post by darien87 on Oct 18, 2012 14:28:01 GMT -5
This doesn't seem a good news... But, from my point of view, there are things that can be fixed. For example, Dolby Volume behaviour changes from a firmware release to another (and some things seems better in previous versions). More important, if Emotiva wants to push their UMC1 customers to upgrade to XMC1, they must give the necessary reliability on the system. Otherwise I'll think three times on the possible upgrade....give more money to have bugs is not my best dream! Milan huh? Nice. I'm reading your post with an Italian accent. ;D |
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Post by ansat on Oct 18, 2012 19:38:42 GMT -5
When I talked to dan last it seems that the 3d board might not happen. But I got nothing official from him on this.
sent from my phone. sorry for the short response. Tony
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Post by jamrock on Oct 18, 2012 19:51:48 GMT -5
You can buy a 3D BRP with 2 HDMI outputs for less than it would take to do the 3D upgrade. Even if I was not getting the XMC-1, I would not do the 3D upgrade because there is a better, economic solution. However, other FW upgrades should continue as warranted.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 19, 2012 0:58:55 GMT -5
You could also use the upgrade card to get a UMC-200 for about $420, and get the HDMI board reportedly from the XMC-1 - with 3D and other improvements - Bluetooth, etc (see the other thread).
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Post by redrick on Oct 19, 2012 5:31:08 GMT -5
This doesn't seem a good news... But, from my point of view, there are things that can be fixed. For example, Dolby Volume behaviour changes from a firmware release to another (and some things seems better in previous versions). More important, if Emotiva wants to push their UMC1 customers to upgrade to XMC1, they must give the necessary reliability on the system. Otherwise I'll think three times on the possible upgrade....give more money to have bugs is not my best dream! Milan huh? Nice. I'm reading your post with an Italian accent. ;D Yes! Sorry if my english is not perfect...maybe I need a FW upgrade too... ;D |
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Post by klinemj on Oct 19, 2012 6:59:07 GMT -5
+100 to what AudioHTIT say...my read of what Emotiva has done is to put the UMC-200 and UMC-500 developments ahead of any major work on the UMC-1.
Why? Because the -200 and -500 use the same chipset as the -1, but it moves to HDMI-switching (same as in the XMC-1) to radically improve HDMI switch times. The UMC-1's hardware is set, so there's a limit to how fast HDMI switching is ever going to be on the -1. I suspect they are at the limit already.
For the remaining issues of audio dropouts, I simply don't ever have those anymore with the latest FW and it seems that most others do not either. And, for those who do have them, they seem relatively infrequent and random...very few seem to have any repeatable issue. That could be driven as much by issues w/the source as the UMC-1.
If there are any more FW updates to the UMC-1, I would not expect anything until after the UMC-200 and -500 launch. And, if there are - I suspect it will be because in the development of the -200 and -500 they learned something more about the Cirrus-related code.
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Post by LCSeminole on Oct 19, 2012 9:32:07 GMT -5
I believe Mark meant UMC-200 & UMC-500. Just to add to this thoughts these upcoming processors will have a true video pass-through so the only really processing will be any audio streams which in my opinion totally by-passes known issues with all manufacturers when it comes to HDMI handshakes. Like Mark's experiences with the current UMC-1 software I've had very few audio dropouts and those have only occurred with fastwarding/rewinding with a DVR. I do believe bypassing the video processing in my case has been extremely helpful so only audio processing is taking place.
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