In about a month or so I will be looking to buy a new sub to go with Paradigm studio 60's and CC-490 for new home theater area. The room is large but is split into two separate areas by a bar, so the actual listening/viewing room is probably average 15 x 15 or so.
I'm looking at the Paradigm Ultracube 10 but need your sub guru help. Used for both music and movies/tv. I would like to spend less than the $800-900 price on the Paradigm and hoping there is other options.
Post by Porscheguy on Dec 25, 2012 12:19:18 GMT -5
Paradigm makes great subs as does SVS, Rhythmik, Velodyne, Emotiva, and a dozen more. Your gonna get a lot of different answers and they all are right. All these manufacturer's make subs in that price range and all are good. I have SVS sub and its great, but so are many others....
In the end, no one can answer that but you. I don't care what anyone tells you, one mans trash is another mans treasure!!
Good luck!! :-)
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Post by Dark Ranger on Dec 25, 2012 13:11:37 GMT -5
I second all the suggestions that Porscheguy mentioned. They are all very good subwoofers.
I own a Rythmik and can vouch for its sound quality, it's fantastic. I'll also add another brand to that list: Epik Subwoofers. They have a good reputation and lots of folks are satisfied with the Legend and Empire models in particular.
I would just get a pair of Klipsch Reference RW-12d for $299 each at newegg.com and call it a day. I run a pair of these and it fills my 20x28 room with ease. The DSP front controller is pretty sweet also because I don't run emo-q and the bass blends in well with my rf7s.
Thanks guys, I was hoping for specific models that you have listened to and prices approx and since I have little to no knowledge on technical specs of subs. I've only had one in the past and it was a Paradigm PDR lower end of their series, it was okay. I know Velodynes are good but which model would fit into my budget and also wanting one good for both music and movies. So Im thinking around $500-600 would be nice. Was thinking of the Emo XRef.
Oh and Im definitely NOT looking just for loud booming bass, more just to balance out my system.
Rythmik FV12 for $550 should be on your short list. For better sound quality and a tad less output look to the Rythmik F12 for $787.
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Post by The Mad Norseman on Dec 25, 2012 16:45:57 GMT -5
Check out Home Theater Magazine's "Top Picks": www.hometheater.com/content/top-picks-subwoofers These have all been reviewed, tested and performance measured. ALL listed are excellent values for the money. The MSRP is listed - but usually you can find all for a bit less than show. Good luck!
Post by chuckienut on Dec 25, 2012 16:51:13 GMT -5
Forget the ultra cube type subs unless you are in a severe limitation for space, they just don't put out the price performance value. Paradigm and Velodyne's large subs are excellent but over your price. Also go only for the internet direct subs for the same reason. Here are a few suggestions for you. Look carefully at the size and weight as some of these are quite large, but they put out the best low end at higher volumes and low distortion which the small cube subs can't.
Emotvia ----- X-Ref 12, $599 (Fairly compact size, great for music, but misses the lowest movie bass).
"The smaller the subwoofer box, the harder it is to make deep bass, and the harder the driver works to produce deep bass. When you see a subwoofer as physically large as the VTF-3 MK4, chances are you are going to get some pretty good deep bass, unless the design is a complete disaster."
Velodyne ----- VX-11, 2ea for $229 (this is no joke, two good subs for $229 on factory closeout if you have the room for two, but won't go down deep, maybe 30Hz or so in room).
If you prefer a medium sized sub then I would go for either the Emo X-Ref 12 or the SVS SB12-NSD (both excellent for music and good-very good for movies). If you have room and want deep bass for a best buy price I would go for the Outlaw LFM-1 EX or SVS PB12-NSD (or PC12-NSD in water heater shape) or HSU VTF-3 MK4 (all very good for music and excellent for movies).
All under the $800-$900 budget. If you like the looks of satin black/smoke black Plexiglas finish here is a photo of the LFM-1 Plus (slightly smaller brother of LFM-1 EX with same Plexiglas top).
Sorry, for the short post!
Last Edit: Dec 25, 2012 17:49:20 GMT -5 by chuckienut
Yes, its good and bad, would be nice to just narrow about three down...I am not sure I like the paper cone in the FV12 seems really weird but it does look like people have good impressions of both FV and F12
subs ---- you need power AND resolution. MY recommendation. Get some good power - ex. Crown - then pair it up with a good driver. Not too complicated. Build your own cabinet if you have to. Great drivers out there on parts express. Crown amps. Great stuff.
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