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Post by bub on Dec 5, 2013 9:11:37 GMT -5
Thanks Boom. Still a great tutorial on DIY wires .
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Post by audiofile on Dec 5, 2013 18:50:09 GMT -5
Thanks for a great write up with the basics included, Boom!
And I especially appreciate the report back on your cable tests. Good info, man!
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Post by Boomzilla on Dec 6, 2013 11:50:54 GMT -5
As always, I'm worth every penny you pay for me! LOL
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Post by bub on Dec 6, 2013 13:52:18 GMT -5
Best value ever in audio..You're the man..
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Post by Bonzo on Dec 6, 2013 14:14:41 GMT -5
I like this thread. So I have a question. What's the difference in doing all that work you did vs what I did? Performance wise? I bought something like these, put individual wires in each one (12 gauge speaker wire), then just stacked them at the source end. At the speaker end they all plug in individually with regular banana clips. Understand? www.parts-express.com/wbt-0645w-stackable-angled-banana-connector-white--093-541 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 15:27:29 GMT -5
I like this thread. So I have a question. What's the difference in doing all that work you did vs what I did? Performance wise? I bought something like these, put individual wires in each one (12 gauge speaker wire), then just stacked them at the source end. At the speaker end they all plug in individually with regular banana clips. Understand? www.parts-express.com/wbt-0645w-stackable-angled-banana-connector-white--093-541It's the exact same thing in the end, just a different way to get there. |
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Post by audiofile on Dec 6, 2013 18:01:53 GMT -5
As always, I'm worth every penny you pay for me! LOL A truer statement has never been made.  |
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Post by Boomzilla on Jan 10, 2014 10:22:29 GMT -5
I've not tried it. My experience is that I just haven't heard any differences in interconnects. I've tried a variety, and to my ears - no audible change. Therefore, I buy inexpensive and reliable brands & leave well enough alone.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2014 19:43:17 GMT -5
I must admit I have not noticed any difference myself, just curious. Thanks for your reply.
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Post by lionear on Jan 11, 2014 17:19:10 GMT -5
I've made some interconnects and found that different solders have a different sound.
I've settled on WBT because the bass is deeper and more powerful without any coloration.
Siltech solder seems to curtail the bass - this is probably a good choice if you want to tame some of the bass in your system.
Cardas sells bulk wire at different gauges, solder and connectors. The wire has the characteristic Cardas sound. They're not neutral to my ears, they're romantic and warm. Cardas gear takes a long, long time to break in.
I've also found that the banana plugs have a sound. I'm using Audioquest bananas now - and the speakers seem to have a lot more high frequency information than when I connect via bare wire.
Has anyone tried Emotiva's speaker wire?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2014 18:02:59 GMT -5
You're saying wires break in? You've got to be kidding......
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Post by bluemeanies on Jan 11, 2014 18:24:38 GMT -5
Excellent job Boom...thanks for the details and the humor.
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Post by Gary Cook on Jan 11, 2014 18:31:35 GMT -5
I've made some interconnects and found that different solders have a different sound. I've settled on WBT because the bass is deeper and more powerful without any coloration. Siltech solder seems to curtail the bass - this is probably a good choice if you want to tame some of the bass in your system. Cardas sells bulk wire at different gauges, solder and connectors. The wire has the characteristic Cardas sound. They're not neutral to my ears, they're romantic and warm. Cardas gear takes a long, long time to break in. I've also found that the banana plugs have a sound. I'm using Audioquest bananas now - and the speakers seem to have a lot more high frequency information than when I connect via bare wire. Has anyone tried Emotiva's speaker wire? What amplifiers/speakers are you using? They must be extremely impedance sensitive. Cheers Gary |
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Post by Dark Ranger on Jan 11, 2014 18:38:03 GMT -5
They're not neutral to my ears, they're romantic and warm. I guess that's why my cables continue to rebuff my advances. I need to spend more time romancing my cables and less time expecting them to just put out on command.  Has anyone tried Emotiva's speaker wire? I've owned a 6 meter pair of Emotiva's X-series speaker cables for 1.5 years. Excellent materials and build quality. No complaints with sound quality either. However, since we're both on very different wavelengths when it comes to discussing cable performance, cable break-in, and how cable material, solder, etc. influence sound, I'm going to be hold my tongue about the rest of your post.  |
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Post by Boomzilla on Jan 11, 2014 21:48:50 GMT -5
The only really significant difference that I've been able to hear in speaker wires is braided or "Litz" styles vs. plain wires. To my ears, the braided styles always seem to be softer in the treble. I've currently got some braided 1980's Ixos wires and some Kimber Kable 12TC wires. I don't use them. I like the Blue Jeans cables better. That said, I think Mr. DYohn has the right of it - the best wires are bare wires (could apply to women also... - Joking, dear - just joking...).
Since I can't hear or measure any difference between the bare wires and the Blue Jeans welded bananas/spades, I'll opt for the convenience of the terminals, thanks.
Other people hear better than I can and say they hear different things. Power to them - Were I younger (with more sensitive ears), it might matter more. For my needs, thanks, I'll do very well with what I've got.
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Post by deltadube on Jan 11, 2014 23:38:45 GMT -5
They're not neutral to my ears, they're romantic and warm. I guess that's why my cables continue to rebuff my advances. I need to spend more time romancing my cables and less time expecting them to just put out on command. Has anyone tried Emotiva's speaker wire? I've owned a 6 meter pair of Emotiva's X-series speaker cables for 1.5 years. Excellent materials and build quality. No complaints with sound quality either. However, since we're both on very different wavelengths when it comes to discussing cable performance, cable break-in, and how cable material, solder, etc. influence sound, I'm going to be hold my tongue about the rest of your post. yes we all need more of that DR put out on command stuff  cheers |
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Post by deltadube on Jan 11, 2014 23:41:46 GMT -5
The only really significant difference that I've been able to hear in speaker wires is braided or "Litz" styles vs. plain wires. To my ears, the braided styles always seem to be softer in the treble. I've currently got some braided 1980's Ixos wires and some Kimber Kable 12TC wires. I don't use them. I like the Blue Jeans cables better. That said, I think Mr. DYohn has the right of it - the best wires are bare wires (could apply to women also... - Joking, dear - just joking...). Since I can't hear or measure any difference between the bare wires and the Blue Jeans welded bananas/spades, I'll opt for the convenience of the terminals, thanks. Other people hear better than I can and say they hear different things. Power to them - Were I younger (with more sensitive ears), it might matter more. For my needs, thanks, I'll do very well with what I've got. Boomer a lot of people hear little voices in there heads too, telling them what they hear too eh! cheers |
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Post by lionear on Jan 12, 2014 14:31:21 GMT -5
I've made some interconnects and found that different solders have a different sound. I've settled on WBT because the bass is deeper and more powerful without any coloration. Siltech solder seems to curtail the bass - this is probably a good choice if you want to tame some of the bass in your system. Cardas sells bulk wire at different gauges, solder and connectors. The wire has the characteristic Cardas sound. They're not neutral to my ears, they're romantic and warm. Cardas gear takes a long, long time to break in. I've also found that the banana plugs have a sound. I'm using Audioquest bananas now - and the speakers seem to have a lot more high frequency information than when I connect via bare wire. Has anyone tried Emotiva's speaker wire? What amplifiers/speakers are you using? They must be extremely impedance sensitive. Cheers Gary |
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