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Post by solidstate on Sept 12, 2014 9:27:42 GMT -5
I guess the thread title says it all. Any idea when a US made XPA-1L might ship? It's great if it's US made as I then pay little to no duty bringing it into Canada!
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Post by chaosrv on Sept 12, 2014 9:31:42 GMT -5
I guess the thread title says it all. Any idea when a US made XPA-1L might ship? It's great if it's US made as I then pay little to no duty bringing it into Canada! Will it be US made? I know they said *some* products will be made in the US but I was under the impression other products will continue to be made in China. If that is true, I may pick up a two more for my mains and move two of my Gen 1 XPA-1L amps to the rear just for the fun of it. |
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Post by solidstate on Sept 12, 2014 9:34:27 GMT -5
I guess the thread title says it all. Any idea when a US made XPA-1L might ship? It's great if it's US made as I then pay little to no duty bringing it into Canada! Will it be US made? I know they said *some* products will be made in the US but I was under the impression other products will continue to be made in China. If that is true, I may pick up a two more for my mains and move two of my Gen 1 XPA-1L amps to the rear just for the fun of it. How do you like the XPA-1L? I'm thinking of replacing my mains/center with three of them vs the UPA-1s I have now. It sure would be nice if not for bragging rights to have a truly balanced end to end front stage. I don't believe the DAC output in the XMC-1 for center is truly balanced though just L/R. I sure hope Emo/Jade finds the PCB space to have truly balanced outputs on the RMC-1. |
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Post by creimes on Sept 12, 2014 9:35:53 GMT -5
I guess the thread title says it all. Any idea when a US made XPA-1L might ship? It's great if it's US made as I then pay little to no duty bringing it into Canada! Where are you in Canada, Im in Manitoba about an hour from the border and when I jump across and bring Emotiva stuff into Canada they ony charge me the 13% tax and never duty. Chad |
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Post by solidstate on Sept 12, 2014 9:36:42 GMT -5
I guess the thread title says it all. Any idea when a US made XPA-1L might ship? It's great if it's US made as I then pay little to no duty bringing it into Canada! Where are you in Canada, Im in Manitoba about an hour from the border and when I jump across and bring Emotiva stuff into Canada they ony charge me the 13% tax and never duty. Chad West coast and I do the same to Point Roberts!  |
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Post by creimes on Sept 12, 2014 9:40:47 GMT -5
Im surprised they make you pay duty, I never have once at the border here ?
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Post by geebo on Sept 12, 2014 10:34:45 GMT -5
Will it be US made? I know they said *some* products will be made in the US but I was under the impression other products will continue to be made in China. If that is true, I may pick up a two more for my mains and move two of my Gen 1 XPA-1L amps to the rear just for the fun of it. How do you like the XPA-1L? I'm thinking of replacing my mains/center with three of them vs the UPA-1s I have now. It sure would be nice if not for bragging rights to have a truly balanced end to end front stage. I don't believe the DAC output in the XMC-1 for center is truly balanced though just L/R. I sure hope Emo/Jade finds the PCB space to have truly balanced outputs on the RMC-1. Is that to say the XMC outputs are not truly balanced? |
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Post by solidstate on Sept 12, 2014 11:14:03 GMT -5
How do you like the XPA-1L? I'm thinking of replacing my mains/center with three of them vs the UPA-1s I have now. It sure would be nice if not for bragging rights to have a truly balanced end to end front stage. I don't believe the DAC output in the XMC-1 for center is truly balanced though just L/R. I sure hope Emo/Jade finds the PCB space to have truly balanced outputs on the RMC-1. Is that to say the XMC outputs are not truly balanced? I believe the mains IE L/R are but not the rest. I could be wrong and I have yet to pull it apart to look at the output PCB. I do have issues though right off the bat. The 12V trigger kicks on and off with my UPA-1s. I tried one trigger doing all amps IE trigger daisy chained. Using two triggers (1 and 3) where one trigger was for two amps and the other for three amps. Same thing. intermittent clicking on/off. It's like the amp is pulling to much current for the trigger's output. I sure hope that's on it's own PCB and a revision change has been made or is being made. You'd think Emo/Jade would be aware of the current draw from their amps 12v trigger input and would design a bloody trigger circuit that can handle it! |
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Post by repeetavx on Sept 12, 2014 11:50:58 GMT -5
You'd think Emo/Jade would be aware of the current draw from their amps 12v trigger input and would design a bloody trigger circuit that can handle it! I'm sure that they would say that adding an ET-3 would fix that for you. |
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Post by solidstate on Sept 12, 2014 11:56:02 GMT -5
You'd think Emo/Jade would be aware of the current draw from their amps 12v trigger input and would design a bloody trigger circuit that can handle it! I'm sure that they would say that adding an ET-3 would fix that for you. Yeah I'm going to call sales about it and get one sent out. I also noticed this would happen when I was surfing the UI so that suggests it's firmware/microcontroller related vs a current issue. It's still very hard to believe that Emo/Jade were not aware of this issue prior to shipment IMHO. Lets hope if it's a hardware issue they redesign the trigger circuit/PCB and fix it. |
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Post by geebo on Sept 12, 2014 12:09:37 GMT -5
Is that to say the XMC outputs are not truly balanced? I believe the mains IE L/R are but not the rest. I could be wrong and I have yet to pull it apart to look at the output PCB. I do have issues though right off the bat. The 12V trigger kicks on and off with my UPA-1s. I tried one trigger doing all amps IE trigger daisy chained. Using two triggers (1 and 3) where one trigger was for two amps and the other for three amps. Same thing. intermittent clicking on/off. It's like the amp is pulling to much current for the trigger's output. I sure hope that's on it's own PCB and a revision change has been made or is being made. You'd think Emo/Jade would be aware of the current draw from their amps 12v trigger input and would design a bloody trigger circuit that can handle it! A known issue and there is a temporary fix that involve a resistor and/or a capacitor in the trigger cable. I believe Emo may even send you a cable if you call. It's a problem with a few of the older amps. |
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Post by solidstate on Sept 12, 2014 12:13:50 GMT -5
I believe the mains IE L/R are but not the rest. I could be wrong and I have yet to pull it apart to look at the output PCB. I do have issues though right off the bat. The 12V trigger kicks on and off with my UPA-1s. I tried one trigger doing all amps IE trigger daisy chained. Using two triggers (1 and 3) where one trigger was for two amps and the other for three amps. Same thing. intermittent clicking on/off. It's like the amp is pulling to much current for the trigger's output. I sure hope that's on it's own PCB and a revision change has been made or is being made. You'd think Emo/Jade would be aware of the current draw from their amps 12v trigger input and would design a bloody trigger circuit that can handle it! A known issue and there is a temporary fix that involve a resistor and/or a capacitor in the trigger cable. I believe Emo may even send you a cable if you call. It's a problem with a few of the older amps. Yeah I'm being taken care of with the fantastic customer support Emotiva is famous for! BTW right off the bat I notice a PQ improvement vs. my old UMC-1 and not only that... it passes 4:4:4 properly for my HTPC transport!!! YAY!No more EVIL chroma subsampling and I can use my HTPC's LUT/conversion!!! I have to say there is also a NOTICEABLE IMPROVEMENT in sound quality. So far I'm very happy less the trigger issues and the sharp edged remotes. |
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Post by pachieh on Sept 12, 2014 19:17:57 GMT -5
God I want to know about gen 2 as well...
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Post by Gary Cook on Sept 12, 2014 19:46:40 GMT -5
Do you guys really believe that a Gen 2 XPA-1L is going to be that much better than a Gen 1? Enough to justify paying (at current discounted prices) ~30% more? I seriously doubt it, based on the other products Gen 2 versions and that the Gen 1 is already Gen 1.5 (electronically, Class A bias etc).
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Post by novisnick on Sept 12, 2014 19:55:36 GMT -5
Do you guys really believe that a Gen 2 XPA-1L is going to be that much better than a Gen 1? Enough to justify paying (at current discounted prices) ~30% more? I seriously doubt it, based on the other products Gen 2 versions and that the Gen 1 is already Gen 1.5 (electronically, Class A bias etc). Cheers Gary I do agree Gary! The XPA-1L on SALE now has got to be the buy of the decade!! I really mean this!  |
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Post by creimes on Sept 12, 2014 22:49:14 GMT -5
Buy the current XPA-1L's and a can of black paint to paint the trim, I have owned a Gen 2 XPA-5 and never noticed anything myself, I'm sure there are little improvements but my hearing cannot detect this like I'm sure most wouldn't either, the Gen1 price is an insane deal IMO |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Sept 12, 2014 23:03:09 GMT -5
I guess the thread title says it all. Any idea when a US made XPA-1L might ship? It's great if it's US made as I then pay little to no duty bringing it into Canada! I highly doubt the XPA-1L G2 will be made in the USA, none of the amps have been and there's no indication they'd start here. I can understand wanting the Gen 2 cosmetics though, I'm going for the XPA-7 Gen2 with my XMC-1. That said I also bet some people will be kicking themselves for not getting in on the great XPA-1L deal that's going on now! |
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Post by garbulky on Sept 12, 2014 23:37:23 GMT -5
I thought somebody mentioned that the gen 2 is just cosmetic differences? (I may be wrong).
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Post by novisnick on Sept 12, 2014 23:41:15 GMT -5
I thought somebody mentioned that the gen 2 is just cosmetic differences? (I may be wrong). Just members guessing I think. Don't see how they could match the price point and quality. Love my XPA-1Ls ya know!! and I own a pair of XPR-1s don't ask me to rid myself of either please.  |
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