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Post by Porscheguy on Oct 12, 2014 9:17:55 GMT -5
Can such a thing exist? Probably not, but this is the best blues solo I've ever heard...In fact, the whole CD is fabulous. Sorry Stevie Ray... What say you? "Mocha" Wow.....thanks for the heads on on this Henderson dude porcheguy! This guy is fabulous! Just checked Qobuz, and three of his albums are on there for streaming including this one. Listening to his Dog Party album now. Incidentally, when you look up a certain artist on Qobuz, Qobuz will also suggest other artists with similar styles. Check out Thelma Houston. Amazing stuff. Don't know who is playing guitar for her, but the cat is an awesome blues player too. You gotta hear this!!! But again, thanks! Thelma sings on the Scott Henderson Albums, at least on the Tore Down House CD. She is fabulous and I think Tore Down House is one of the best blues albums ever made and in my opinion it is the best blues album ever made... Check out Thelma on this cut. She is amazing!!!! For that matter there is another damn good solo on this song too!!
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Post by sct on Oct 12, 2014 9:39:05 GMT -5
Well, I'm not too sure about "best ever", but certainly very nice. Thanks for the headsup, PG!
SCT
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Post by Porscheguy on Oct 12, 2014 11:29:01 GMT -5
Well, I'm not too sure about "best ever", but certainly very nice. Thanks for the headsup, PG! SCT Well it's all opinion of course, but feel free to nominate your choice. I chose this album for the following reasons: 1). Stellar musicianship across the board, especially Scott Henderson.. 2). Fantastic vocals from Thelma Houston and Mordecai S. 3).Truly interesting songs that tell stories, invoke emotions both sad (Tore Down House) and whimsical (I hate You) and most importantly stay 100% within the pentatonic universe (blues scales). 4). Don't sound like 99% of blues albums which is just the same 1,4,5 chord progression just put in a different order. Over and over and over... well you get the idea. 5). Great recording. I know of no other blues album that can do all of the above on one CD that I've found in my lifetime. But I'm all ears if you know of one Honorable mention: Gary Moore "Still Got The Blues"
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Post by pedrocols on Oct 12, 2014 12:09:00 GMT -5
I bet you that all these guys used a tube amp....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 12:28:07 GMT -5
Well, I'm not too sure about "best ever", but certainly very nice. Thanks for the headsup, PG! SCT Well it's all opinion of course, but feel free to nominate your choice. I chose this album for the following reasons: 1). Stellar musicianship across the board, especially Scott Henderson.. 2). Fantastic vocals from Thelma Houston and Mordecai S. 3).Truly interesting songs that tell stories, invoke emotions both sad (Tore Down House) and whimsical (I hate You) and most importantly stay 100% within the pentatonic universe (blues scales). 4). Don't sound like 99% of blues albums which is just the same 1,4,5 chord progression just put in a different order. Over and over and over... well you get the idea. 5). Great recording. I know of no other blues album that can do all of the above on one CD that I've found in my lifetime. But I'm all ears if you know of one Honorable mention: Gary Moore "Still Got The Blues" Does Scott Henderson play on all Thelma Houston's songs, or are there others? If so, do you know who the other guitarists are?
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Post by autiger on Oct 12, 2014 12:47:40 GMT -5
ANother great-recently passed -Johnny Winter
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Post by Bonzo on Oct 13, 2014 9:01:21 GMT -5
Can such a thing exist? Probably not, You just answered your own question. But it's not "probably," it's just no. Okay, cool. Definitely worth checking out, so I'll do that. Thanks for the tip. Stevie was fabulous. And I would never put this guy above him until I heard more than just one song. I would also never do that without seeing him play live. Stevie was very tough live. Very tough. I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone else quite as "one" with the guitar, but I'm certainly no expert. Too many to choose from. Impossible. Why do you always seem to try to nail things down into the best ever? You love this guy and that's great. I love Derek Trucks too. But I would never start a thread like this saying he was the best ever. Why not just start a thread called "Any Scott Henderson Fans Here?" Or maybe "Post Your Favorite Blues Guitar Solos Here." Starting it off by saying it's the best ever is just looking for argument. And then, you don't seem to like it when people disagree with you. Nice playing for sure, but I can't say I think the song itself is particularly moving. You and I have had this conversation before so no need to rehash it all. We just have differing opinions regarding the heart and soul of a song, and/or music in general. Best blues song ever based on the solo? Hardly.
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Post by pedrocols on Oct 13, 2014 9:08:27 GMT -5
Can such a thing exist? Probably not, You just answered your own question. But it's not "probably," it's just no. Okay, cool. Definitely worth checking out, so I'll do that. Thanks for the tip. Stevie was fabulous. And I would never put this guy above him until I heard more than just one song. I would also never do that without seeing him play live. Stevie was very tough live. Very tough. I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone else quite as "one" with the guitar, but I'm certainly no expert. Too many to choose from. Impossible. Why do you always seem to try to nail things down into the best ever? You love this guy and that's great. I love Derek Trucks too. But I would never start a thread like this saying he was the best ever. Why not just start a thread called "Any Scott Henderson Fans Here?" Or maybe "Post Your Favorite Blues Guitar Solos Here." Starting it off by saying it's the best ever is just looking for argument. And then, you don't seem to like it when people disagree with you. Nice playing for sure, but I can't say I think the song itself is particularly moving. You and I have had this conversation before so no need to rehash it all. We just have differing opinions regarding the heart and soul of a song, and/or music in general. Best blues song ever based on the solo? Hardly. I bet you that Stevie used a Tube Amp...
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Post by Bonzo on Oct 13, 2014 9:10:42 GMT -5
Since I mentioned Derek Trucks, this is not straight up blues, but I do love this song, and the solo is fabulous. When they do this one live it usually brings me to tears.
And here's a great live show. If you are not familiar with these folks check this video out. Otherwise skip to about the 1:01 point to hear the Midnight In Harlem solo.
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Post by Porscheguy on Oct 13, 2014 9:59:31 GMT -5
Can such a thing exist? Probably not, You just answered your own question. But it's not "probably," it's just no. Okay, cool. Definitely worth checking out, so I'll do that. Thanks for the tip. Stevie was fabulous. And I would never put this guy above him until I heard more than just one song. I would also never do that without seeing him play live. Stevie was very tough live. Very tough. I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone else quite as "one" with the guitar, but I'm certainly no expert. Too many to choose from. Impossible. Why do you always seem to try to nail things down into the best ever? You love this guy and that's great. I love Derek Trucks too. But I would never start a thread like this saying he was the best ever. Why not just start a thread called "Any Scott Henderson Fans Here?" Or maybe "Post Your Favorite Blues Guitar Solos Here." Starting it off by saying it's the best ever is just looking for argument. And then, you don't seem to like it when people disagree with you. Nice playing for sure, but I can't say I think the song itself is particularly moving. You and I have had this conversation before so no need to rehash it all. We just have differing opinions regarding the heart and soul of a song, and/or music in general. Best blues song ever based on the solo? Hardly. I merely said I thought this was the best blues album "I" had ever heard and I tried to buttress my argument with some reasons and I think I made some pretty good arguements. That's all. You got a better choice of albums? If so, I'd like to know because I love music and while I love blues, most of it is very boring because of it's mindless repetitiveness and is not my cup of coffee. I even invited others to tell about their best blues album and their reasoning for their choice. I didn't disagree or challenge anyone about anything which is the polar opposite of what you are doing. It's just music... Sheesh
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Post by Bonzo on Oct 13, 2014 10:11:37 GMT -5
I merely said I thought this was the best blues album "I" had ever heard and I tried to buttress my argument with some reasons and I think I made some pretty good arguements. That's all. You got a better choice of albums? If so, I'd like to know because I love music and while I love blues, most of it is very boring because of it's mindless repetitiveness and is not my cup of coffee. I even invited others to tell about their best blues album and their reasoning for their choice. I didn't disagree or challenge anyone about anything which is the polar opposite of what you are doing. It's just music... Sheesh As usual, here you and I go again. You just don't seem to understand (or listen to what I actually say) and I'll just leave it at that. Enough on that topic. --------------------------------- In terms of the blues, I once said something to a very intelligent blues loving friend of mine and after giving it a little thought, because it sort of took him aback at first, he said that he basically agreed with me. What I said was something like this. Out of score of 1 to 10, blues usually gets a score of 4-8. It's never bad, but even at it's very best, it's never reaches musical nirvana. Jazz on the other hand can get scores from 1 to 10. Some jazz is just terrible, while other jazz is beyond reproach. As emotional as the blues can be, it's a little one noted when compared to jazz.
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Post by Porscheguy on Oct 13, 2014 10:16:50 GMT -5
"In terms of the blues, I once said something to a very intelligent blues loving friend of mine and after giving it a little thought, because it sort of took him aback at first, he said that he basically agreed with me. What I said was something like this. Out of score of 1 to 10, blues usually gets a score of 4-8. It's never bad, but even at it's very best, it's never reaches musical nirvana. Jazz on the other hand can get scores from 1 to 10. Some jazz is just terrible, while other jazz is beyond reproach. As emotional as the blues can be, it's a little one noted when compared to jazz."
Sure is funny how you can be right with your conjecture but not me. Hmmm...
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Post by Bonzo on Oct 13, 2014 10:29:06 GMT -5
Sure is funny how you can be right with your conjecture but not me. Hmmm... Like I said, nuff said. You and I are oil and water. Trying to have an actual open discussion with you is hard to impossible. I listen, you don't.
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Post by monkumonku on Oct 13, 2014 11:58:03 GMT -5
" In terms of the blues, I once said something to a very intelligent blues loving friend of mine and after giving it a little thought, because it sort of took him aback at first, he said that he basically agreed with me. What I said was something like this. Out of score of 1 to 10, blues usually gets a score of 4-8. It's never bad, but even at it's very best, it's never reaches musical nirvana. Jazz on the other hand can get scores from 1 to 10. Some jazz is just terrible, while other jazz is beyond reproach. As emotional as the blues can be, it's a little one noted when compared to jazz."Sure is funny how you can be right with your conjecture but not me. Hmmm... That quote you quoted, in my opinion, is totally STOOOPID. So it is complexity that determines the worth of anything? That's sort of like missing the forest by focusing too much on the trees. I guess it depends on if you value music for its enjoyment or instead, for its technicality. If you value it for its impact on emotions and how it can satisfy, versus academically, eggheadedly picking things apart.
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Post by Porscheguy on Oct 13, 2014 12:16:01 GMT -5
Well it's all opinion of course, but feel free to nominate your choice. I chose this album for the following reasons: 1). Stellar musicianship across the board, especially Scott Henderson.. 2). Fantastic vocals from Thelma Houston and Mordecai S. 3).Truly interesting songs that tell stories, invoke emotions both sad (Tore Down House) and whimsical (I hate You) and most importantly stay 100% within the pentatonic universe (blues scales). 4). Don't sound like 99% of blues albums which is just the same 1,4,5 chord progression just put in a different order. Over and over and over... well you get the idea. 5). Great recording. I know of no other blues album that can do all of the above on one CD that I've found in my lifetime. But I'm all ears if you know of one Honorable mention: Gary Moore "Still Got The Blues" Does Scott Henderson play on all Thelma Houston's songs, or are there others? If so, do you know who the other guitarists are? Not sure. I only know she sings on the Scott Henderson ones..
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Post by Bonzo on Oct 13, 2014 12:56:00 GMT -5
....complexity that determines the worth of anything.....That's sort of like missing the forest by focusing too much on the trees. ......for its technicality......academically, eggheadedly picking things apart. Good, bad, or indifferent, this is the way Porscheguy leans. Good, bad, or indifferent, this is the way I lean. My quote I made reference to was while speaking to my friend about the musical emotion and how it interacts between blues and jazz. It was an old attempt to dummy down the discussion to the most basic point, the heart of the matter. The fact is for me, I love both blues and jazz. But for me, even the best blues never reaches the emotional "unbelievable" factor that really great Jazz can. On the other hand, almost all blues I've heard is satisfying to a point, where some jazz I've heard is just horrible in my brain.
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Post by monkumonku on Oct 13, 2014 13:09:06 GMT -5
....complexity that determines the worth of anything.....That's sort of like missing the forest by focusing too much on the trees. ......for its technicality......academically, eggheadedly picking things apart. Good, bad, or indifferent, this is the way Porscheguy leans. Good, bad, or indifferent, this is the way I lean. My quote I made reference to was while speaking to my friend about the musical emotion and how it interacts between blues and jazz. It was an old attempt to dummy down the discussion to the most basic point, the heart of the matter. The fact is for me, I love both blues and jazz. But for me, even the best blues never reaches the emotional "unbelievable" factor that really great Jazz can. On the other hand, almost all blues I've heard is satisfying to a point, where some jazz I've heard is just horrible in my brain. Well for me, I do agree with Ed that blues gets repetitive and so musically it does not get as complex as jazz but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy it as much or even more. It depends on what you like. Certainly you can analyze music in terms of its complexity but that has nothing to do with how an individual perceives it or enjoys it. It's sort of like how "audiophiles" obsess over statistics rather than how gear sounds to their ears. Do you appreciate a speaker because its frequency curve and stats tell you it is good, or because you enjoy the way it sounds..
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Post by Bonzo on Oct 13, 2014 13:42:48 GMT -5
Well for me, I do agree with Ed that blues gets repetitive and so musically it does not get as complex as jazz And this is part of why I think it never gets to the level of great jazz for me. Well for Porscheguy the complexity and technicality of it is a big deal. I like that stuff too, but for me the emotion and honesty and heart and soul is more important. Because I enjoy the way it sounds. It always cracks me up when people talk about a dip or a rise in a certain frequency on a graph. I'm not interested in that stuff at all. But I think we have gotten off topic of the thread, which is to show other great blues solos I think. Or was it just to have Porscheguy tell us what the greatest blues solo is and for him to get mad at the people who disagree? Strangely I remember an old thread that was pretty much the same thing.
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Post by Bonzo on Oct 13, 2014 14:08:24 GMT -5
Not straight blues but I've always loved this song and it's solo especially.
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Post by Bonzo on Oct 13, 2014 14:31:08 GMT -5
The original guitarist (Stephen Asma) in this band (Howard & The White Boys) from Chicago was one of best guitar players I've ever seen live. One of those truly amazing talents that decided not to go all out in the music world. Good for him i guess, bad for us music lovers, because there just isn't enough of his stuff around. His solo in Turn On Your Lovelight when played live was truly out of this world. Wish I could find a copy of it somewhere. www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=1168983&style=music&msg=2
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