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Post by frontosa72 on Jan 25, 2015 2:14:41 GMT -5
Afer returning my UMC-200 due to HDMI issues , Im on the market of a good AV pre pro for Music & Movies that would match my XPA-2 , XPA-3 amps and my B&W speaker set up. Im not looking to break my pocket so if i could find a pre pro less than or a little over 1 K. You suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Jonas
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Post by Loop 7 on Jan 25, 2015 2:41:35 GMT -5
Bummer about the HDMI issues; my UMC-200 has performed flawlessly in the connectivity and DHCP area.
Maybe look for a used Marantz pre/pro.
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Post by frontosa72 on Jan 25, 2015 3:29:53 GMT -5
Bummer about the HDMI issues; my UMC-200 has performed flawlessly in the connectivity and DHCP area. Maybe look for a used Marantz pre/pro. Any particular Marantz model you suggest? im only using 5.1 but dont mind buying a 7.1 |
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Post by Gary Cook on Jan 25, 2015 3:49:35 GMT -5
Good luck, the HDMI HDCP standards interpretation current generation differences are the same for all. Chances are if you have a problem with them on a UMC-200 then there will be AVRs with the same if not worse.
Cheers
Gary
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Post by frontosa72 on Jan 25, 2015 3:59:13 GMT -5
Good luck, the HDMI HDCP standards interpretation current generation differences are the same for all. Chances are if you have a problem with them on a UMC-200 then there will be AVRs with the same if not worse. Cheers Gary Hi Gary , i dont wanna derail my posting , but my question is , how come my other devices like oppo and onkyo works fine with no problems and this UMC200 doesnt ? |
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Post by Gary Cook on Jan 25, 2015 6:24:52 GMT -5
Good question!
The ever moving HDMI and HDCP standards and implementations make it Russian roulette. I've had 2 x Denons same model, one had no problems with the cable box, the other (later serial number) didn't like the same cable box one little bit. Getting an answer as to why out of Denon was an exercise in frustration. Whereas Emotiva with one phone call advised me to try the simple swap to toslink for audio, which works perfectly.
Cheers
Gary
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Post by jmilton on Jan 25, 2015 9:28:00 GMT -5
Bummer about the HDMI issues; my UMC-200 has performed flawlessly in the connectivity and DHCP area. Maybe look for a used Marantz pre/pro. Any particular Marantz model you suggest? im only using 5.1 but dont mind buying a 7.1 I just reviewed the SR 5009 & liked it immensely. |
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Post by boomzilla on Jan 25, 2015 10:19:02 GMT -5
Rotel is nice...
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Post by Porscheguy on Jan 25, 2015 12:28:44 GMT -5
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Post by broncsrule21 on Jan 25, 2015 13:09:50 GMT -5
Seems like great unit! Basic but nice. |
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Post by bootman on Jan 25, 2015 13:42:34 GMT -5
Seems like great unit! Basic but nice. But from an electronic standpoint a virtual twin of the UMC-200. Still doesn't mean that it will work better or worse in HDMI switching in a particular system. |
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Post by deimos on Jan 25, 2015 16:04:43 GMT -5
My family is using the Outlaw Processor and we do have HDMI and Handshake issues as well.
We never are able to hear the first ~0.25-0.5 Seconds of songs as the processor seems to not know there is a source connected until a signal is passed through it.
On the same note, HDMI drops out at times like between each movie preview on blu-rays and the main menu.
When pressing "Play Movie" on a film, the processor signal will drop out then reconnect after an actual visual/audio signal is present.
It's a small nuisance that we never had on a non-HDMI B&K Processor, but I'm not sure the extent of your troubles with the UMC-200 so this might be a step up anyway.
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Post by emovac on Jan 25, 2015 19:49:36 GMT -5
Afer returning my UMC-200 due to HDMI issues , Im on the market of a good AV pre pro for Music & Movies that would match my XPA-2 , XPA-3 amps and my B&W speaker set up. Im not looking to break my pocket so if i could find a pre pro less than or a little over 1 K. You suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jonas Music Direct is good to deal with. |
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Post by frontosa72 on Jan 25, 2015 23:14:06 GMT -5
Afer returning my UMC-200 due to HDMI issues , Im on the market of a good AV pre pro for Music & Movies that would match my XPA-2 , XPA-3 amps and my B&W speaker set up. Im not looking to break my pocket so if i could find a pre pro less than or a little over 1 K. You suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jonas Music Direct is good to deal with. Thanks emovac, , this model Marantz AV7701 is what i had in mind.... But ive seen online AV7005 aswell and more Marantz processor but i dont need dolby atmos Im thinking of considering AV7701 |
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Post by deltadube on Jan 25, 2015 23:21:15 GMT -5
Afer returning my UMC-200 due to HDMI issues , Im on the market of a good AV pre pro for Music & Movies that would match my XPA-2 , XPA-3 amps and my B&W speaker set up. Im not looking to break my pocket so if i could find a pre pro less than or a little over 1 K. You suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jonas just 1 k more for the xmc 1 |
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Post by emovac on Jan 25, 2015 23:30:30 GMT -5
Thanks emovac, , this model Marantz AV7701 is what i had in mind.... But ive seen online AV7005 aswell and more Marantz processor but i dont need dolby atmos Im thinking of considering AV7701 Here's another place to check on for bigger saving in refurbs. Most are like new. Buy the extra warranty, and get the unit with NEW term warranty at a very good price. This site has many brands to choose from. I've dealt with them previously - good seller. www.accessories4less.com/ |
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Post by novisnick on Jan 25, 2015 23:42:09 GMT -5
Afer returning my UMC-200 due to HDMI issues , Im on the market of a good AV pre pro for Music & Movies that would match my XPA-2 , XPA-3 amps and my B&W speaker set up. Im not looking to break my pocket so if i could find a pre pro less than or a little over 1 K. You suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jonas just 1 k more for the xmc 1 Bob, it's when you answer yourself in a strange different voice that scares the hell out of me!!!,,,,he,,,,he,,,,he,,,,,  .  |
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Post by 2muchht on Jan 26, 2015 2:43:32 GMT -5
...But from an electronic standpoint a virtual twin of the UMC-200... While they do many of the same things and share a few (but not many) parts in common as is the case with all home theater products, the internal architecture of these two products is quite different as they were most certainly designed by different teams and built by different factories. Far from twins; not even distant cousins. Both do many things well, each does some things better than the other as no product is perfect. Which is best depends on an individual's specific needs and preferences. |
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Post by bootman on Jan 26, 2015 8:24:50 GMT -5
...But from an electronic standpoint a virtual twin of the UMC-200... While they do many of the same things and share a few (but not many) parts in common as is the case with all home theater products, the internal architecture of these two products is quite different as they were most certainly designed by different teams and built by different factories. Far from twins; not even distant cousins. Both do many things well, each does some things better than the other as no product is perfect. Which is best depends on an individual's specific needs and preferences. You are correct. I should have explained myself more.  As far as the handling of digital signals, they both use the same HDMI and Cirrius DSP chipsets. I agree the input choices and analog implementation along with software features used in the DSP are totally different but that doesn't usually affect HDMI issues that much. Example: Outlaw decided not to use the PEQ feature of the DSP but it is there in hardware. That was more my point. You should take a closer look at the NuForce AVP-18 to see other examples of similar platforms. |
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