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Post by pallpoul on Jun 16, 2016 23:13:35 GMT -5
I was looking at the new Peachtree Nova 150 (150 wpc integrated amp) at Crutchfield today, thought about using it with my JBL S-590's, and got to wonder, if the sound quality would be any better then an XDA-2 Gen-2 with a Bas X A-300 combination ?
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Post by KeithL on Jun 17, 2016 9:47:01 GMT -5
I have an interesting - and serious - question for you....... Is there any reason why you would assume it would sound better? From the description: 1) It uses a Sabre DAC, so I would expect it to have a bit of the characteristic "Sabre sound" when you use its digital input (which some people like and some don't). 2) It also uses an iCEpower module, which we use in our new Emersa line, and which sound quite nice. It will also be more efficient than the BASX Class A/B amp, and so a little smaller and lighter, with less vents and/or heat sinks - if that's a consideration. 3) It has a MUCH more "impressive" PRICE TAG. 4) The case looks interesting (personally, I like wood cabinets, but I prefer an oiled finish to that high-gloss stuff that, even though it's real wood, looks like plastic). However, I'm not seeing anything in there that specifically makes me think it will sound better - or am I missing something? (Note that I haven't actually heard one, so I have no reason to think that it doesn't sound good; it probably does.) I was looking at the new Peachtree Nova 150 (150 wpc integrated amp) at Crutchfield today, thought about using it with my JBL S-590's, and got to wonder, if the sound quality would be any better then an XDA-2 Gen-2 with a Bas X A-300 combination ?
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Post by garbulky on Jun 17, 2016 10:00:36 GMT -5
Better than the XDA-2, who knows. Better than a nice DC-1? Well now there's some stiff competition right there! I put my bet on the DC-1.
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Post by Loop 7 on Jun 17, 2016 11:29:25 GMT -5
I had a Peachtree DACiTx* for two years and really liked it's smooth sound. It had a recessed upper midrange so it was incredible for the horribly mastered classical recordings I own. I replaced the Peachtree with an XDA-2 Gen 2 because a friend sold it to me new for $150 (after deciding he wanted all McIntosh) and I was curious about how Emotiva voiced their DACs. In some ways, I wish I still had the Peachtree DAC but the XDA-2 Gen 2 is so good, I'm happy with my decision.
I can't speak to Peachtree's amplification but I do find it interesting the new Nova tosses out the tube buffer featured in some of their previous amps. I do know they've had a change in management which may have prompted this.
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Post by DYohn on Jun 17, 2016 11:48:01 GMT -5
I was looking at the new Peachtree Nova 150 (150 wpc integrated amp) at Crutchfield today, thought about using it with my JBL S-590's, and got to wonder, if the sound quality would be any better then an XDA-2 Gen-2 with a Bas X A-300 combination ? Would it sound different? Probably. Would it be "better"? That's up to you.
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Post by pallpoul on Jun 17, 2016 12:26:42 GMT -5
I own many Emotiva equipment, and love how they sound, I was wondering however why the price is so high with peachtree. I can have an XPA-2 Gen 3 with my Stealth DC-1 with twice the power compared to the nova 150 and still be under the price tag of the Nova. !!
Another reason why I love Emotiva, in addition to the beautiful sound, the cosmetic appeal, cs, warranty, is the price tag ! Kudos to Big Dan and his team.
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Post by Boomzilla on Jun 17, 2016 12:40:07 GMT -5
Mr. DYohn has previously implied that he thinks the Peachtree amps are good-sounding. The juveniles at the local BestBuy agree, as do I. The Peachtree has some advantages over Emotiva stuff, IF they're important to you: 1. The Peachtree is a compact and single component - It combines THREE components that Emotiva sells as separate boxes - A DAC, a preamplifier, and a power amplifier. Is a compact footprint important to you? There you go! 2. The Peachtree has a vacuum tube stage that can be switched in and out of the signal chain. Ever wanted to try vacuum tubes - with the Peachtree, you can. 3. The Peachtree comes in colors other than "Emotiva black." This IS important to me, but others may not care. Your money, your choice. And that's about it. Emotiva gear DOES offer more power & flexibility if you really need it. Most don't, but profoundly THINK that they do. It's easy, in audio, to buy more (and sometimes MUCH more) than you really need. Hie thyself to a "Magnolia" kiosk in a ubiquitous BestBuy store (after calling to ensure that they have a Peachtree in stock & set up) and go listen. You'll like it or you won't. All the hee-hawing in the world by internet jackasses (like me) doesn't mean diddley. Enjoy the journey! Cordially - Boomzilla
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Post by teaman on Jun 17, 2016 13:18:41 GMT -5
I am actually more intrigued by this one. The NuPrime IDA-16 Integrated Amplifier. I have read multiple reviews and they all seem to be positive. They have several lower priced amps, DAC's and such available as well. I agree with Keith that the Peachtree looks cheap as far as the case, but it may be a nice piece of equipment just the same.
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Post by KeithL on Jun 17, 2016 14:15:03 GMT -5
1) But the new BASX TA-100 has a tuner, a preamp, and an amplifier - and also has the same set of digital inputs as the PT-100.... (Although it is bigger than the Peachtree. But, then, the BASX fits in a standard rack.) 2) And, from what I hear, the new PeachTree models seem to no longer include the tube buffer.... (The nova150 definitely doesn't include a tube output option.) 3) I agree that some choice of color is nice, but I'm not fond of piano black or "high gloss wood" (my preference is for "oiled walnut" or "oiled oak"). (But, from the pictures, the nova150's wood option does look pretty nice.) I'm just sayin...... But, then, I'm biased Mr. DYohn has previously implied that he thinks the Peachtree amps are good-sounding. The juveniles at the local BestBuy agree, as do I. The Peachtree has some advantages over Emotiva stuff, IF they're important to you: 1. The Peachtree is a compact and single component - It combines THREE components that Emotiva sells as separate boxes - A DAC, a preamplifier, and a power amplifier. Is a compact footprint important to you? There you go! 2. The Peachtree has a vacuum tube stage that can be switched in and out of the signal chain. Ever wanted to try vacuum tubes - with the Peachtree, you can. 3. The Peachtree comes in colors other than "Emotiva black." This IS important to me, but others may not care. Your money, your choice. And that's about it. Emotiva gear DOES offer more power & flexibility if you really need it. Most don't, but profoundly THINK that they do. It's easy, in audio, to buy more (and sometimes MUCH more) than you really need. Hie thyself to a "Magnolia" kiosk in a ubiquitous BestBuy store (after calling to ensure that they have a Peachtree in stock & set up) and go listen. You'll like it or you won't. All the hee-hawing in the world by internet jackasses (like me) doesn't mean diddley. Enjoy the journey! Cordially - Boomzilla
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Post by DYohn on Jun 17, 2016 14:32:22 GMT -5
Why is Peachtree more expensive than Emotiva? Likely for no reason other than they decided to use that price point. Oh, and to appeal to the "audiophile price snobs," who are also mostly fools.
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Post by Dan Laufman on Jun 17, 2016 14:41:48 GMT -5
Peachtree Nova 150... $1,500.00... no tuner, no phono... Seems expensive. Nice, but expensive. Can't wait for you to hear the TA-100. $399.00 with 2x50 watts that sounds like twice the power. And more useful features! So sweet!
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Post by brubacca on Jun 17, 2016 14:57:07 GMT -5
No tube would be no go for me on this product. You might as well wait for the Emersa Amp which uses the same modules as the Peachtree.
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Post by novisnick on Jun 17, 2016 16:04:07 GMT -5
Peachtree Nova 150... $1,500.00... no tuner, no phono... Seems expensive. Nice, but expensive. Can't wait for you to hear the TA-100. $399.00 with 2x50 watts that sounds like twice the power. And more useful features! So sweet! Hey big guy!! Why wait? Lets have it!! Or at leaste a
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Post by knucklehead on Jun 17, 2016 16:44:42 GMT -5
Peachtree Nova 150... $1,500.00... no tuner, no phono... Seems expensive. Nice, but expensive. Can't wait for you to hear the TA-100. $399.00 with 2x50 watts that sounds like twice the power. And more useful features! So sweet! I'd love to see you market an integrated amp with digital inputs. Class D amps would be a plus IMO. With HT bypass done right - like the XSP-1. The USP-1 was good - except for the way HT bypass was done.
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Post by Axis on Jun 17, 2016 16:54:56 GMT -5
Peachtree Nova 150... $1,500.00... no tuner, no phono... Seems expensive. Nice, but expensive. Can't wait for you to hear the TA-100. $399.00 with 2x50 watts that sounds like twice the power. And more useful features! So sweet! We love you and your gear Dan and no doubt it will be sweet ! But Dude make use some sweet tube gear and a sweet turntable first chance you get and we will throw roses at your feet !
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Post by Boomzilla on Jun 17, 2016 16:58:01 GMT -5
1) But the new BASX TA-100 has a tuner, a preamp, and an amplifier - and also has the same set of digital inputs as the PT-100.... But, may I point out (ahem...) that the TA-100 is NOT yet available! A VERY significant issue, perhaps. 2) And, from what I hear, the new PeachTree models seem to no longer include the tube buffer.... True, but who buys new? If you want the tube option, buy a used one (and for less!). 3) I agree that some choice of color is nice, but I'm not fond of piano black or "high gloss wood" (my preference is for "oiled walnut" or "oiled oak"). Well, I'm not fond of "Emotiva monochromatic black" either. I'd like my Emotiva gear with a silver faceplate and an oiled walnut cabinet too, for all the good it does me! You can't always get what you want (with apologies to the Rolling Stones).
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Post by Loop 7 on Jun 17, 2016 18:42:14 GMT -5
Why is Peachtree more expensive than Emotiva? Likely for no reason other than they decided to use that price point. Oh, and to appeal to the "audiophile price snobs," who are also mostly fools. I think Peachtree has substantial dealer representation so margins must be higher.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 21:12:10 GMT -5
Peachtree Nova 150... $1,500.00... no tuner, no phono... Seems expensive. Nice, but expensive. Can't wait for you to hear the TA-100. $399.00 with 2x50 watts that sounds like twice the power. And more useful features! So sweet! I think this will be a all time best seller for Emotiva!
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Post by Boomzilla on Jun 17, 2016 21:17:11 GMT -5
^^ What he said!
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Post by GreenKiwi on Jun 18, 2016 16:14:17 GMT -5
I've seen a number of the PeachTree amps in person and find the wood looks quite real and nice. Oiled would be nicer, but I'm guessing that it is much harder to have a consistent quality with an oiled finish, and it's more likely to get marred/damaged.
I'd personally go for the PeachTree if I liked the looks and wanted to have it displayed on a shelf in the living room.
Oh, and go grab one from BB and try it out at home and see what you think.
I'm looking forward to hearing the new gear from Emo.
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