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Post by donovan on Dec 14, 2016 21:59:37 GMT -5
Based on my email to support at Emotiva today, it sounds like the MC-700 will not be upgradeable to Dolby Vision (DV) in the future. I started to question whether I should pull the trigger on this unit or wait awhile and see if DV is later incorporated. However, after doing research on HDR10 vs DV, it sounds like my future TV, the Sony 65" XBR 930D, can't even utilize the higher brightness and color ceilings that DV has. In other words, if this is the TV I keep for years, missing DV will not be a big deal. I'm guessing the better OLED's can actually utilize DV. Is my reasoning sound? There are other brands that can handle DV Donovan ; and not just oleds but lcd's too like vizio and lg's lcd's and phillips [ if available in the U.S ?] If your happy with the sony though the mc700 has the required hdmi2.0a passthrough needed for HDR10 . What did they say exactly about hdmi ? its been mentioned that the mc700 is modular like the xmc1 which implies a possible solution when HDR settles and DV turns up in 2017... True, there are TV's that can "handle" DV, but from what I've read (of course, I could be reading poor analysis) is that most of those TV's cannot actually utilize the true benefits of DV, yet. Here was my question: I see that the MC-700 will pass through HDR10, but my question is in regards to DolbyVision. When that feature actually starts to show up on discs, will the MC-700 will be able to pass it through? If not, would that be upgradeable in the future? If yes, via software update? Or, would it be a physical change requiring it to be shipped back? thanks! Here was the answer: It will not be updated to include Dolby Vision in the future. |
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Post by klinemj on Dec 14, 2016 22:26:01 GMT -5
It has been a LONG time since someone had to drag out the poor old horse. But, it was called for! Mark |
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Post by Jim on Dec 14, 2016 23:51:05 GMT -5
It has been a LONG time since someone had to drag out the poor old horse. But, it was called for! Mark Hey, the last time I brought up a beating a dead horse picture people got upset........animal rights or something. I don't know what "expression" is PC anymore. Perhaps we need to start a new thread and discuss! |
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Post by urwi on Dec 15, 2016 9:16:40 GMT -5
What makes you think I couldn't "just sit down and enjoy the sound"? The opposite is true. Once dialled in correctly it sounds sublime. I enjoy it every day. When buying new equipment I want to make sure that it has all the features I need so it can be dialled in correctly though. The UMC-200 didn't have those features and was lacking in usability that's why I came here to ask whether the MC-700 has improved in certain areas or not. Talk about overthinking your system, open your disc tray and throw a movie or CD in and just enjoy it, urwi you are bringing this whole enjoyment of listening to music or watching a movie to an almost depressing state, I almost feel sorry for you as it seems you can't just sit down and enjoy the sound. |
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Post by creimes on Dec 15, 2016 10:12:29 GMT -5
Sorry, not to sound disrespectful it just comes off as you spend more time dialing in and worrying about the science behind audio reproduction than just listening to audio reproduction haha, the things you talk of I have never even concerned myself with and don't plan to as I already enjoy my system immensely. Reminds me of a friend I had that was a musician and couldn't listen to music outside of classical and jazz as he found it imperfect in so many ways. Just my .02 of course but to each their own  |
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Post by Jim on Dec 15, 2016 10:37:03 GMT -5
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Post by bumpytrail on Dec 15, 2016 11:48:28 GMT -5
Sorry for my pre-order impatience, but is the 12/30 ship date still looking good for the MC-700? Also, would we be notified if we pre-ordered and the pre-orders exceeded the 12/30 quantity of manufactured units? Just looking forward to receiving the MC-700.. Thanks for any info.
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Post by cwt on Dec 15, 2016 11:57:32 GMT -5
Here was my question: I see that the MC-700 will pass through HDR10, but my question is in regards to DolbyVision. When that feature actually starts to show up on discs, will the MC-700 will be able to pass it through? If not, would that be upgradeable in the future? If yes, via software update? Or, would it be a physical change requiring it to be shipped back? thanks! Here was the answer: It will not be updated to include Dolby Vision in the future. Well ; if that's what they said that's unfortunate . Have you considered using the 2nd hdmi out found on most uhd players and foregoing the mc700 osd ? For the TV's available they all indeed have their lapses ; whether oleds lower nit levels or lcd's black levels/ dynamic range [ which translates to different smpte specs for the different technologies ]. But they are improving and Panasonic has just developed a new tech that will drive competition no doubt www.kitguru.net/peripherals/monitors/matthew-wilson/panasonic-aims-to-knock-down-oled-with-evolved-ips-tech/ |
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Post by GTPlus on Dec 15, 2016 16:25:32 GMT -5
Well I think I solved my 2nd zone concerns via a work-around. So I have officially put my order in If anyone is interested in the work-around - I plan on trying out the Dayton HiFly Dayton HiFly I realized I really only use my KODI and my turntable to pipe music into my other parts of the house and outdoors. So I will put one of these in-line from my turntable pre, effectively making it a wifi turntable. I will then get one or two more to make the other zones wireless. |
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Post by urwi on Dec 15, 2016 19:55:10 GMT -5
You're missing out. Your system and room can sound so much better when dialled in correctly. You only need to do it once. I do rarely change anything and spend more time listening. It seems to me that people who think they could find "the perfect sound" by ear are buying and changing things all the time. Sound reproduction is just a technical process though. The magic is happening in recording, mixing and mastering not in reproduction. Sorry, not to sound disrespectful it just comes off as you spend more time dialing in and worrying about the science behind audio reproduction than just listening to audio reproduction haha, the things you talk of I have never even concerned myself with and don't plan to as I already enjoy my system immensely. Reminds me of a friend I had that was a musician and couldn't listen to music outside of classical and jazz as he found it imperfect in so many ways. Just my .02 of course but to each their own |
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Post by creimes on Dec 15, 2016 20:36:47 GMT -5
I did play around a lot with Dirac Full when I ahd the XMC-1, loved Dirac but couldn't afford to keep the XMC at the time, I just installed a Marantz AV7702 so I will need time quite time to run audyssey, while I know I can't adjust curves and such I am looking forward to what it can or can't do lol, IMO there is no perfect sound just what one prefers, I'm pretty easy and don't really worry till wits end, I do change stuff out but I think it's more a spending addiction lol You're missing out. Your system and room can sound so much better when dialled in correctly. You only need to do it once. I do rarely change anything and spend more time listening. It seems to me that people who think they could find "the perfect sound" by ear are buying and changing things all the time. Sound reproduction is just a technical process though. The magic is happening in recording, mixing and mastering not in reproduction. Sorry, not to sound disrespectful it just comes off as you spend more time dialing in and worrying about the science behind audio reproduction than just listening to audio reproduction haha, the things you talk of I have never even concerned myself with and don't plan to as I already enjoy my system immensely. Reminds me of a friend I had that was a musician and couldn't listen to music outside of classical and jazz as he found it imperfect in so many ways. Just my .02 of course but to each their own |
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Post by Jim on Dec 15, 2016 20:44:22 GMT -5
Urwi - I thought this was about the MC-700.
Have you thought about starting a new thread to expound upon your feelings?
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Post by urwi on Dec 16, 2016 4:21:24 GMT -5
OK this is my last response to you Jim as your posts are simply just personal attacks. You don't add anything meaningful to the thread topic. Basically you just show the world how much you can hate. I have to admit you're pretty good at it. You can go on with it if you feel the need. I don't care and won't respond until you change your behavior. In the meantime I let the mods decide how they will handle it. Urwi - I thought this was about the MC-700. Have you thought about starting a new thread to expound upon your feelings? |
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Post by Jim on Dec 16, 2016 6:35:36 GMT -5
OK this is my last response to you Jim as your posts are simply just personal attacks. You don't add anything meaningful to the thread topic. Basically you just show the world how much you can hate. I have to admit you're pretty good at it. You can go on with it if you feel the need. I don't care and won't respond until you change your behavior. In the meantime I let the mods decide how they will handle it. Urwi - I thought this was about the MC-700. Have you thought about starting a new thread to expound upon your feelings? There was nothing personal about my post. Nor was there any hate. Everyone has their opinions about how to achieve a good experience - but those aren't really related to the MC-700 in particular. I do agree with the value of a good room, a good system and that the bulk of reproduction is engineering/technical. It's meeting specs in some respects. If you have more comments about the MC-700, I'd love to hear them. |
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Post by harlan on Dec 19, 2016 13:24:54 GMT -5
Sorry for my pre-order impatience, but is the 12/30 ship date still looking good for the MC-700? Also, would we be notified if we pre-ordered and the pre-orders exceeded the 12/30 quantity of manufactured units? Just looking forward to receiving the MC-700.. Thanks for any info. I ordered mine on 12/1 and was told at that time they would be shipping prior to 12/30. |
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Post by novisnick on Dec 19, 2016 13:28:52 GMT -5
Sorry for my pre-order impatience, but is the 12/30 ship date still looking good for the MC-700? Also, would we be notified if we pre-ordered and the pre-orders exceeded the 12/30 quantity of manufactured units? Just looking forward to receiving the MC-700.. Thanks for any info. I ordered mine on 12/1 and was told at that time they would be shipping prior to 12/30. They always seem to leave off the year when anybody makes promises!!  |
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Post by bumpytrail on Dec 22, 2016 12:29:41 GMT -5
I ordered mine on 12/1 and was told at that time they would be shipping prior to 12/30. Harlan, thank you for that info. I'm probably one of the few left that still use a FM tuner so since the MC-700 doesn't have one I bought a used Sangean HDT-1 HD tuner off of eb*y for a low price and was surprised at how much better it is at tuning in FM (and FM HD) stations over the FM tuner in my Yamaha receiver. I have the tuner hooked up to a large outdoor antenna which really helps reception. |
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Post by donovan on Dec 23, 2016 0:09:26 GMT -5
Here was my question: I see that the MC-700 will pass through HDR10, but my question is in regards to DolbyVision. When that feature actually starts to show up on discs, will the MC-700 will be able to pass it through? If not, would that be upgradeable in the future? If yes, via software update? Or, would it be a physical change requiring it to be shipped back? thanks! Here was the answer: It will not be updated to include Dolby Vision in the future. Well ; if that's what they said that's unfortunate . Have you considered using the 2nd hdmi out found on most uhd players and foregoing the mc700 osd ? For the TV's available they all indeed have their lapses ; whether oleds lower nit levels or lcd's black levels/ dynamic range [ which translates to different smpte specs for the different technologies ]. But they are improving and Panasonic has just developed a new tech that will drive competition no doubt www.kitguru.net/peripherals/monitors/matthew-wilson/panasonic-aims-to-knock-down-oled-with-evolved-ips-tech/Yea, I may just hold onto my Fusion receiver for awhile and use the dual HDMI outs on the Oppo 203 once I buy that. |
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Post by wreckingball on Dec 25, 2016 19:04:59 GMT -5
There are other brands that can handle DV Donovan ; and not just oleds but lcd's too like vizio and lg's lcd's and phillips [ if available in the U.S ?] If your happy with the sony though the mc700 has the required hdmi2.0a passthrough needed for HDR10 . What did they say exactly about hdmi ? its been mentioned that the mc700 is modular like the xmc1 which implies a possible solution when HDR settles and DV turns up in 2017... True, there are TV's that can "handle" DV, but from what I've read (of course, I could be reading poor analysis) is that most of those TV's cannot actually utilize the true benefits of DV, yet. Here was my question: I see that the MC-700 will pass through HDR10, but my question is in regards to DolbyVision. When that feature actually starts to show up on discs, will the MC-700 will be able to pass it through? If not, would that be upgradeable in the future? If yes, via software update? Or, would it be a physical change requiring it to be shipped back? thanks! Here was the answer: It will not be updated to include Dolby Vision in the future. I keep seeing this, but there have been several posts on other forums that suggest that DV will be 'seen' by the AVR as 8-bit and pass it through without even knowing it. Here's two such threads: www.avsforum.com/forum/90-receivers-amps-processors/2563233-passing-dolby-vision-via-hdmi.htmlAnd this one starting at post 301 and beyond: www.avsforum.com/forum/465-high-dynamic-range-hdr-wide-color-gamut-wcg/2377090-real-reason-sony-samsung-aren-t-using-dolby-vision-11.htmlIf that be the case, I'm all over an MC700, wish someone that owns one *and* a DV source *and* capable TV would confirm...hmmm... |
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Post by leefdalucky on Dec 29, 2016 20:43:18 GMT -5
T-minus 24 hours....  |
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