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Post by rbk123 on Jan 11, 2017 11:47:04 GMT -5
Actually no, that is not an assumption. Rather, it is a suggestion.
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 11, 2017 12:50:06 GMT -5
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 11, 2017 13:25:05 GMT -5
Yes, we simply want a choice of 7.3.6 -OR- 9.3.4 for a Total of 16 channels. ...... but more importantly the OPTION to choose should exist.. as this would ALSO benefit Emotiva since they would then grab business from BOTH parties I agree that's a desired thing. I can only assume it's totally doable, but a more technically apt person will need to chime in here to confirm. And like I said, I think Emotiva certainly has it in their minds. If I were guessing, I'd have to say I feel differently. I would say that it's at least highly debatable, and totally relies on the physical room (or wife ). But to flip it around a bit on you, let me say this using your words with my new numbers. "I personally feel that more people (rooms) would benefit from 7.1.4 (or even 5.1.4) than they would 9.1." Again this assumes height speakers are even possible in the room (which for many they won't be). Basically speaking, I think for truly immersive surround sound, height channels could/should make a bigger difference than the 7 or 9 (extra 2 or 4 from 5.1) wall channels. And from my limited experience with going from 5 to 7, in which I found there to be a big difference (even my wife easily noticed), I think ceiling speakers will make quite a difference. I'm not knocking the 9 wide thing at all, and I'll bet it sounds awesome, but if I were someone with 5.1 on an upgrade path, I'd go 5.1.4 first if the room allowed, then add on the others later (room and budget choosing which came next). JMO of course.
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Post by Erwin.BE on Jan 11, 2017 15:01:36 GMT -5
Ah, my mistake. I guess they didn't yet update their pdf. The 6 Top speaker are ridiculously close to each other in that layout iMO. Front stage is more important but only gets 3 speakers. 10 speakers in "surround" is overkill or at least unbalanced. About the 3 subs: that's how Emotiva sees things, whether you like it or not. And from what I remember from the announced chip-set, the thing is 13.3 meaning 13 satellites and 3 subs. BTW, I'd rather have 15.1 myself since my LCR use only 3 out of 4 outputs of the miniDSP 4x10HD. Since the front subs are right behind the L+R front, I could make a 4-way instead of 3-way. But if it's 13.3 (for now) then so be it. And yes, I and everybody on this bord know there's only one LFE, not 3, but we all know what we want to say when we type x.3.x. So give me a break, will you?
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Post by yves on Jan 11, 2017 16:34:11 GMT -5
Actually no, that is not an assumption. Rather, it is a suggestion.
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Post by Albert on Jan 13, 2017 8:17:11 GMT -5
Its very quit here right now on the forum. how come? because everything already has been discussed?
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Post by hemster on Jan 13, 2017 9:08:11 GMT -5
Its very quit here right now on the forum. how come? because everything already has been discussed? We're all busy eating bleu cheese.
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Post by Jim on Jan 13, 2017 10:20:49 GMT -5
We're all busy eating bleu cheese. Blue
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Post by sahmen on Jan 13, 2017 11:43:18 GMT -5
Et bien, voici du bleu... Mais pourquoi est-ce qu'on en parle ici... ?
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Post by yves on Jan 13, 2017 14:17:24 GMT -5
Et bien, voici du bleu... Mais pourquoi est-ce qu'on en parle ici... ?
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Post by hemster on Jan 13, 2017 14:20:09 GMT -5
We're all busy eating bleu cheese. Blue Well OK, But I'm not convinced until I see a DBT between bleu and blue cheese. BTW, I'm kinda glad I didn't get any of these ornaments: Bleu Cheese vaping, anyone?
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Post by qdtjni on Jan 13, 2017 17:51:27 GMT -5
Et bien, voici du bleu... Mais pourquoi est-ce qu'on en parle ici... ? Nice one! incindentally, I had two of those earlier tonight, the beer that is. :
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Post by yves on Jan 13, 2017 20:33:28 GMT -5
Nice one! incindentally, I had two of those earlier tonight, the beer that is. : Earlier tonight I had a half bottle of Chimay Grande Réserve 2016 and a slice of that cheese that's in the picture I posted.
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Post by rbk123 on Jan 14, 2017 13:08:45 GMT -5
Yep.
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Post by neekos on Jan 14, 2017 13:19:05 GMT -5
ditto
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Post by RichGuy on Jan 14, 2017 15:39:17 GMT -5
My interests toward the RMC-1 have changed, since I don't have any interest in adding the extra channels for height/width I have decided the RMC-1 is not something I'd consider. 7.1 for HT and 2.1 for music are good for me and unless there are considerable changes in the future that is probably where I will stay. I was interested at first but the RMC-1 won't be for me. Luckily I am pretty content with my current processor anyway, but I will be curious to see what the coming XMC-2 will offer.
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Post by etc6849 on Jan 14, 2017 16:46:39 GMT -5
If one uses bass traps and absorption treatments on walls, a 7.1 or even 2.1 system can sound incredible and really impress those who have atmos in their home already (if you can take the room out of the equation). Unfortunately, only less than 1% of the population has heard what stereo can sound like on a well thought out top end system in a treated room. I'd still like to try out atmos and move my setup to a different room. Just needs to be standard on every movie before I spend another $7k or more for amps, speakers, RMC-1, etc... Just hard to justify when my current setup sounds so good and 98% of my content has no atmos. Also, until I can afford a decent 4k projector, it makes more sense for my PC to store all my media (FLAC and mkv files) and use the Dirac PC based software (which has processing power unlike any processor and very low latency time; heck it has results that measure better than my XMC-1's Dirac and filters that match each possible sampling frequency). However, I personally would buy an RMC-1 if they can offer some advanced customization for each channel (e.g. for bi or tri-amping) though as I don't need 16 channels either.I really want to get rid of these extra boxes (Ashley XR1001 analog active crossovers) in my system, so I can remove my top shelves and put my center channel back. To be honest, if you were to bi-amp your RF-7's with an outboard crossover (removing the factory crossovers completely is best) and add lots of room treatments (assuming you haven't already), you would hear more of an improvement than what the RMC-1 can offer by itself. Heck you could pickup a used XMC-1 for under $1200 like I did and enjoy the fully balanced stereo channels in the setup you have now. However, adding the RMC-1 and doing those other things is great too. Not saying the RMC-1 is a bad product or not worth it, but at some point unless folks have perfected their room's acoustics and have adequate amplification, $5k on an RMC-1 is not the optimal place to spend money as other things can give greater and noticeable improvements for less money if you are technically inclined and DIY. My interests toward the RMC-1 have changed, since I don't have any interest in adding the extra channels for height/width I have decided the RMC-1 is not something I'd consider. 7.1 for HT and 2.1 for music are good for me and unless there are considerable changes in the future that is probably where I will stay. I was interested at first but the RMC-1 won't be for me. Luckily I am pretty content with my current processor anyway, but I will be curious to see what the coming XMC-2 will offer.
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Post by audiosyndrome on Jan 16, 2017 10:32:58 GMT -5
[/quote]-1 terrible reply
Active front stage is increasingly popular. Plus it may sell additional amps to go along with it. The crossovers, eq, etc are all there in the the channel assignments anyways. And I guarantee the box is already going to support stereo subs similar to other Emotiva products so you are half way there already. [/quote]
- 1 terrible response
Increasingly popular?? For a minuscule few. 98-99 % of people buying amps have no idea, or even ever heard of, what an active crossover does. Most do not understand a passive crossover in the speaker.
IMO of course.
Russ
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Post by dwaleke on Jan 16, 2017 10:40:27 GMT -5
-1 terrible reply Active front stage is increasingly popular. Plus it may sell additional amps to go along with it. The crossovers, eq, etc are all there in the the channel assignments anyways. And I guarantee the box is already going to support stereo subs similar to other Emotiva products so you are half way there already. I think a totally configurable channel output with active crossovers, PEQ, etc would be great. And then have Dirac run against the active speaker. Similar to the Minidsp DDRC-88BM. Problem is we'd need a LOT more output channels. At least 32. And that would start driving the costs way up. Not sure I'd spring for an $8-12k unit that could accomplish that.
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Post by rhale64 on Jan 16, 2017 10:41:58 GMT -5
Hey folks I would love to do this active front stage. But I want Atmos and DTS x so I would need many more channels. To much expense for me. It would be nice to be able to run active in two channel mode however. But how could you pull that off without connecting and disconnecting stuff before you listen. Multiple jumpers, have to leave the standard xovers in the speakers and use the jumpers and hook and unhook your wires.
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