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Post by dcg44s on Sept 17, 2016 15:42:45 GMT -5
I want to upgrade to 4K but have been holding off mostly because of costs.I will need to upgrade both display and source.On the source side I looked at the Samsung and Panasonic offerings but decided that I preferred to wait and see what Oppo did.I have seen some pretty good prices on 4K LCD but I really would prefer OLED and in a large screen size.65 inch LG OLED while improving is still kind of pricey. On the content side I am pretty much dismissing any streaming options because of issues in delivery and reports that it isn't all that great generally.That leaves discs which is just fine with me because my old self is a physical format fan anyway.The problems with UHD discs are options and cost.I have no plans to upgrade films that I already own to the new format with the possible exception of a handful of favorites should they become available.The selection of movies currently available on UHD isn't doing much to excite me and the pricing stinks. They wanted me to pay a premium for Blu-ray over DVD and now they want another premium for UHD over BD.Cost just keeps escalating and my finances can't match the rate of escalation.A perfect example,a while back I was actually thinking about buying Chappie in 4K but found that I could purchase a three film Blu-ray set with Chappie,District 9 and Elysium for less money.Three films instead of one and a lower cost on top of it.Guess which I chose? 4K is something that I want but not an absolute necessity.Real world value for my dollar is a big consideration.I have the idea in my head that I will likely upgrade by buying the player first since it also serves as a BD player,buying discs very selectively since they also include the BD copy and waiting to upgrade the display last since it is the most costly component and to give OLED more time to drop in price. Please add Already have a 4k player to the poll as it will be more accurate. thanks Not my poll.
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Post by adaboy on Sept 17, 2016 15:43:15 GMT -5
Well there a as many Videophiles as there are Auidophiles. I know guys that are way more into the picture than they are the audio. Me? I'm the opposite, audio 80% video 20%. I watch movies for the audio track lol Either way it is not hard to decipher a good picture from a bad one. I am happy with my plasma 1080P ability and the sound quality is fantastic so I don't have complaints either way. I don't care if you enjoy the movie or not, that is not the topic here. There are plenty of crappy movies that sound and look good but also plenty of movies that the story line rocks yet the sight and sound suck. I just thought this was about 4k and if it was an improvement of what you "saw". Yep, no denying that the picture quality is better from DVD to Bluray and Bluray to 4k.
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Post by adaboy on Sept 17, 2016 15:44:04 GMT -5
Please add Already have a 4k player to the poll as it will be more accurate. thanks Not my poll. My bad sorry pal
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Post by Axis on Sept 17, 2016 15:44:31 GMT -5
You guys see the gear I am using. It is not for a lack of proper gear. I use the latest Emotia X series high speed HDMI cables to go directly from my OPPO to my Samsung plasma. I sit 10 feet from my display and if I did not know if it was DVD or Blu-ray it would not make a difference. I see the same picture for the same movie no matter if it is DVD or Blu-ray. Over and over again. There is a lot of folks that will tell you that. No way there are "a lot of people who will tell you that" this is one statement I say BS. And just that you make an argument by telling me what hdmi cable you use (which doesn't make the slightest difference) tells me all I need to know. No need to discuss further. Smh Would not expect anything else from you.
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Post by adaboy on Sept 17, 2016 15:44:42 GMT -5
With the announcement of the upcoming OPPO 4K disc player, I was curious about the depth of the interest. For me there needs to be a solid amount of popular content available before I would give up my trusty OPPO 93. As a matter of fact, I held out until five years ago on buying a Blu-Ray player. I've slowly been transitioning my favorite DVDs to Blu-Rays as I could justify it. Some will never get upgraded, and now there is this new standard to think about. So I went to Amazon to see if a couple of the new movies I'm interested in getting are available on 4k discs yet. Nope, not yet.Can you please add "All ready have a 4k player" to the poll?
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Post by mfeust on Sept 17, 2016 15:47:24 GMT -5
NO
Mark
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Post by Axis on Sept 17, 2016 15:49:56 GMT -5
I do not expect to hear anything but hard core stuff from here. This is where you live for picture and sound quality. Someone, anyone come here and say that DVD is the same as Blu-ray you are going to get it ! It sure is fun to say it here ! Do you think I should go over to AVSForum and say it there ? Your all nuts !
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Post by adaboy on Sept 17, 2016 15:52:04 GMT -5
I do not expect to hear anything but hard core stuff from here. This is where you live for picture and sound quality. Someone, anyone come here and say that DVD is the same as Blu-ray you are going to get it ! It sure is fun to say it here ! Do you think I should go over to AVSForum and say it there ? Your all nuts ! LOL you go over and say that and those guys will make bmoney's comments seem fit for church
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Post by Axis on Sept 17, 2016 16:01:21 GMT -5
I do not expect to hear anything but hard core stuff from here. This is where you live for picture and sound quality. Someone, anyone come here and say that DVD is the same as Blu-ray you are going to get it ! It sure is fun to say it here ! Do you think I should go over to AVSForum and say it there ? Your all nuts ! LOL you go over and say that and those guys will make bmoney's comments seem fit for church I started out over there and Know what your saying !
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 16:04:34 GMT -5
LOL you go over and say that and those guys will make bmoney's comments seem fit for church I started out over there and Know what your saying ! Oh so you're a troll? That's nice.
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Post by Axis on Sept 17, 2016 16:07:03 GMT -5
I started out over there and Know what your saying ! Oh so you're a troll? That's nice. Yup I am a Troll. Love to get you guys going !
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Post by garbulky on Sept 17, 2016 16:24:12 GMT -5
I do not expect to hear anything but hard core stuff from here. This is where you live for picture and sound quality. Someone, anyone come here and say that DVD is the same as Blu-ray you are going to get it ! It sure is fun to say it here ! Do you think I should go over to AVSForum and say it there ? Your all nuts ! Curious question: do you really not notice any difference in the picture? For me the DVD lacks a lot of detail compared to Blu-ray. Also the color is just not as vivid - likely from the grainy resolution. I find VHS the color is even worse. Even the Blu-ray I can tell that I'm not getting everything. When I first saw blu ray I was quite dissapointed. I was expecting way more. Now over the years with better players and processing, the picture is quite a bit better. But I was expecting Blu Ray to look like 4 k which it obviously wasn't.
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Post by Axis on Sept 17, 2016 16:42:52 GMT -5
I do not expect to hear anything but hard core stuff from here. This is where you live for picture and sound quality. Someone, anyone come here and say that DVD is the same as Blu-ray you are going to get it ! It sure is fun to say it here ! Do you think I should go over to AVSForum and say it there ? Your all nuts ! Curious question: do you really not notice any difference in the picture? For me the DVD lacks a lot of detail compared to Blu-ray. Also the color is just not as vivid - likely from the grainy resolution. I find VHS the color is even worse. Even the Blu-ray I can tell that I'm not getting everything. When I first saw blu ray I was quite dissapointed. I was expecting way more. Now over the years with better players and processing, the picture is quite a bit better. But I was expecting Blu Ray to look like 4 k which it obviously wasn't. I do not Garbulky. I am being serious. On my current gear I do not see a difference. One of the Movies I want to see a difference on is Lawrence of Arabia. That movie to me is the movie I want to see as high def as I can. They keep saying they improve it and I keep buying it and there is so little of a difference that I will pop the original DVD version in as quick as the new improved Blu-ray version and not blink an eye.
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Post by repeetavx on Sept 17, 2016 17:03:33 GMT -5
Please add Already have a 4k player to the poll as it will be more accurate. thanks I'd love to, but the interface won't allow me to edit a poll. Please use "as soon as it's out" because that's what you did. Or at least before this poll came out.
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Post by Gary Cook on Sept 17, 2016 17:03:51 GMT -5
As has been the case with video since VHS Vs Beta, it's all about the content. Until there is enough on the shelves (figuratively of course) plus regular new releases it's a niche market. Let's face it Oppo is in no hurry to release their player, they have time, no need to rush, get it spot on.
As for a noticeable difference, up to 50" at normall viewing distance I can't pick it. At the same distance 55/60" it's a sometimes, I suspect often it's placebo effect. Over 65", same viewing distance I have a higher hit rate. For someone substituting a sizeable panel for a screen it probably should be on the list. Personally the biggest I can fit in the space is 55" so I'm in no hurry, the current Sony was top level when I bought it, so I'll hang out and see what the content situation looks like early next year.
Cheers Gary
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Post by gus4emo on Sept 17, 2016 17:30:16 GMT -5
I do not expect to hear anything but hard core stuff from here. This is where you live for picture and sound quality. Someone, anyone come here and say that DVD is the same as Blu-ray you are going to get it ! It sure is fun to say it here ! Do you think I should go over to AVSForum and say it there ? Your all nuts ! Curious question: do you really not notice any difference in the picture? For me the DVD lacks a lot of detail compared to Blu-ray. Also the color is just not as vivid - likely from the grainy resolution. I find VHS the color is even worse. Even the Blu-ray I can tell that I'm not getting everything. When I first saw blu ray I was quite dissapointed. I was expecting way more. Now over the years with better players and processing, the picture is quite a bit better. But I was expecting Blu Ray to look like 4 k which it obviously wasn't. What BD have you watched and on what display? I see a lot of details on my set up...
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Post by ribbonking on Sept 17, 2016 17:36:21 GMT -5
I voted maybe eventually. Finally learned my lesson after upgrading too early previously and paying through the nose too often. This time I'll wait until the dust settles.
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Post by Loop 7 on Sept 17, 2016 19:32:48 GMT -5
I'm still too enamored with my Panasonic plasma to migrate. The color fidelity, off axis viewing and black levels have ruined me.
I'm certain my next panel will be UHD but hoping that's years from now.
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Post by 405x5 on Sept 17, 2016 19:58:55 GMT -5
Eventually sure. If you're a true enthusiast then unlikely you would take a step in the opposite direction. Audio being more important to me than video, I went for God knows how long before I realized I had UHD upscaleing in my own system with 2 3D players no less and did not have it enabled.
What's really needed are more memorable films with great acting to come down the pike.
All the object based audio and UHD will not salvage the crap that's churned out from the industry these days.
Bill
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Post by teaman on Sept 17, 2016 20:59:50 GMT -5
Curious question: do you really not notice any difference in the picture? For me the DVD lacks a lot of detail compared to Blu-ray. Also the color is just not as vivid - likely from the grainy resolution. I find VHS the color is even worse. Even the Blu-ray I can tell that I'm not getting everything. When I first saw blu ray I was quite dissapointed. I was expecting way more. Now over the years with better players and processing, the picture is quite a bit better. But I was expecting Blu Ray to look like 4 k which it obviously wasn't. I do not Garbulky. I am being serious. On my current gear I do not see a difference. One of the Movies I want to see a difference on is Lawrence of Arabia. That movie to me is the movie I want to see as high def as I can. They keep saying they improve it and I keep buying it and there is so little of a difference that I will pop the original DVD version in as quick as the new improved Blu-ray version and not blink an eye. Axis, you are arguing the technology against my point I made previously. They are not going to take a fifty year old movie and make it that much improved. Like I was saying, if you take a new release from say 2008 or something you will notice a significant difference in picture and sound quality switching to Bluray from regular dvd. They cannot really go back and remaster for 4k a 1962 film and make it that much better.
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