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Post by Cogito on Nov 14, 2016 19:29:24 GMT -5
I just found out the Martin logans retail for $1199 for the 6.5s. with quality amplification I bet they sound pretty good for bookshelf's. If I didn't want to build something that's what I'd be looking at. The cabinets are extremely solid for a bookshelf. I would stay away from the 5.25s. I wasn't impressed with those. www.martinlogan.com/motionSeries/models/bookshelf.phpXT35's This was another system I auditioned. Great vocals and top end, but the bass was a bit anemic to me. Normally, this is not an issue as I have a good sub, but I listen to 90% of my music with the sub off and running my Wharfedales full range. I guyess that's why I have so much interest in the Philharmonic Aduio's BMR Philharmonitor with it's rated -2dB at 30 Hz. That's impressive! With that said, Dennis Murphy of Philharmonic did eventually get back to me. Current deliveries have been delayed a bit. Here is the E-mail he sent me explaining. "Hi Steve Thanks for writing. Things are getting a little complicated with the BMR's for a couple of reasons. First, the furniture grade finish shown on the website has proven too costly and time consuming to continue as the standard offering. It requires multiple sanding and sealing sessions that can add a month to the build time. The standard finish is now a simpler process that works well on several standard veneers, walnut included. However, the finish will not be absolutely mirror smooth like the furniture-grade. It would be more along the lines of a kitchen cabinet. Furniture grade is still available, but it adds $200 to the cost. Second, Jim Salk is extremely short-handed now. He sent the crew member in charge of veneering and finishing back to Mexico to get a proper green card, and he's been stuck there for 3 months waiting for the bureaucracy to review is documentation and spring him loose. In the mean time, Jim has had to do all that work himself. He does beautiful work, but he has to run a very busy operation as well. Realistically, a pair of BMR's in the standard finish would take 2-3 months, and furniture grade at least 3 months. Jim could do grills in most any color, but metal would not be feasible. In view of all the complications, I'm also offering a plan B for people willing to go with cherry or piano black and don't mind giving up a couple of Hz of bass extension in return for significantly lower cost and turnaround time. This version of the BMR would use a .75 cu ft prefabricated curved cabinet like the .5 cu ft one shown for the New Philharmonitor on my web site. The cabinet is 2" shorter than the regular model, which does reduce bass extension slightly but actually improves power handling. I don't think power handling would be an issue with either model unless you intend to use the BMR's without a sub for HT on bass-heavy program material at very high volume. The ScanSpeak woofer is widely regarded as the most rugged available in this size class. Lead time for the smaller version would be 2-3 weeks. I offer a 3-year full warranty that covers anything other than obvious abuse or cats. Shipping is capped at $100, and the actual charge to Maine would probably hit the cap depending on which version of the BMR you chose. Best wishes, Dennis Murphy"
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Post by djreef on Nov 15, 2016 12:04:51 GMT -5
I just found out the Martin logans retail for $1199 for the 6.5s. with quality amplification I bet they sound pretty good for bookshelf's. If I didn't want to build something that's what I'd be looking at. The cabinets are extremely solid for a bookshelf. I would stay away from the 5.25s. I wasn't impressed with those. www.martinlogan.com/motionSeries/models/bookshelf.phpXT35's This was another system I auditioned. Great vocals and top end, but the bass was a bit anemic to me. Normally, this is not an issue as I have a good sub, but I listen to 90% of my music with the sub off and running my Wharfedales full range. I guyess that's why I have so much interest in the Philharmonic Aduio's BMR Philharmonitor with it's rated -2dB at 30 Hz. That's impressive! With that said, Dennis Murphy of Philharmonic did eventually get back to me. Current deliveries have been delayed a bit. Here is the E-mail he sent me explaining. "Hi Steve Thanks for writing. Things are getting a little complicated with the BMR's for a couple of reasons. First, the furniture grade finish shown on the website has proven too costly and time consuming to continue as the standard offering. It requires multiple sanding and sealing sessions that can add a month to the build time. The standard finish is now a simpler process that works well on several standard veneers, walnut included. However, the finish will not be absolutely mirror smooth like the furniture-grade. It would be more along the lines of a kitchen cabinet. Furniture grade is still available, but it adds $200 to the cost. Second, Jim Salk is extremely short-handed now. He sent the crew member in charge of veneering and finishing back to Mexico to get a proper green card, and he's been stuck there for 3 months waiting for the bureaucracy to review is documentation and spring him loose. In the mean time, Jim has had to do all that work himself. He does beautiful work, but he has to run a very busy operation as well. Realistically, a pair of BMR's in the standard finish would take 2-3 months, and furniture grade at least 3 months. Jim could do grills in most any color, but metal would not be feasible. In view of all the complications, I'm also offering a plan B for people willing to go with cherry or piano black and don't mind giving up a couple of Hz of bass extension in return for significantly lower cost and turnaround time. This version of the BMR would use a .75 cu ft prefabricated curved cabinet like the .5 cu ft one shown for the New Philharmonitor on my web site. The cabinet is 2" shorter than the regular model, which does reduce bass extension slightly but actually improves power handling. I don't think power handling would be an issue with either model unless you intend to use the BMR's without a sub for HT on bass-heavy program material at very high volume. The ScanSpeak woofer is widely regarded as the most rugged available in this size class. Lead time for the smaller version would be 2-3 weeks. I offer a 3-year full warranty that covers anything other than obvious abuse or cats. Shipping is capped at $100, and the actual charge to Maine would probably hit the cap depending on which version of the BMR you chose. Best wishes, Dennis Murphy"Now that Trump is in office in January, I'm wondering if he'll ever see that guy again. DJ
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Post by leonski on Nov 15, 2016 15:00:21 GMT -5
The 'Guy' in question is down in Mexico and THAT means its own particular kind of hell. I've got stories from relatives down there which would coil your hair. And the Bureaucrats? a real fun bunch. Take A Number. Some parts of the process are ONLY DONE in particular places. You can start the process maybe in SanDiego but must go to Mexico to FINISH the process.
I did my wife's papers here in the states to make her Legal. 3 or so appointments with Immigration, some 'trick' questions, CERTIFIED translations of some documents and MORE>
More is time off from work (me) and all sorts of fees and charges. But I probably saved 1000$ with this DIY. Figuring out the RIGHT PAPERWORK was a treat in and of itself.
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Post by yves on Nov 15, 2016 15:37:27 GMT -5
They certainly look interesting. The gloss cherry is beautiful. Do you have any experience as to their build quality? They seem pretty light for their size. If I can find a local dealer, I'll definitely check them out. The Vento series are using aluminum cabinets so that's why each one of my Vento 890.2 DC floorstanding speakers weighs only 63 lbs. IMO the build quality is just as remarkable as the quality of the sound: VERY remarkable. The ceramic dome tweeters designed by Canton are linear to 37.5 kHz. The ceramic material used in them is aluminum oxide, which is not only lightweight to help with the efficiency part of the equation, but also extremely rigid so these tweeters do not distort, even at high SPL. We're also talking waveguide technology here so the maximum SPL is not to be taken any way lightly. My floorstanding speakers can give my XPA-2 (Gen 1) a pretty strong excercise from time to time because I like to play it LOUD, but there is no audible strain, nor any cabinet resonance, nor any port chuffing. No compressed transients, no top end harshness, no lack in definition or liveliness. Ever. Tonal balance is also correct, it's all about having very linear frequency response with truly impressively coherent, clean, and undistorted sound from top to bottom. Both my XPA-2 and them were purchased new almost five years ago. Even though I did replace my DAC with a better one, I have been a stupendously happy camper since I made the plunge and bi-wired my Vento 890.2 DC speakers to my XPA-2 by using inakustik Reference LS-1002 speaker cables. My Canton speakers came with a standard 10-year full warranty period. Some people say a high gloss black lacquer finish looks boring, but my reply to that is wait until you've seen these speakers in person!
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Post by djreef on Nov 16, 2016 21:29:35 GMT -5
Holy moley you have to post a bigger pic of your setup! I've never seen that config. Sorry, been busy. Here you go. Attachment Deleted
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Post by garbulky on Nov 16, 2016 22:33:01 GMT -5
Holy moley you have to post a bigger pic of your setup! I've never seen that config. Sorry, been busy. Here you go. View AttachmentVERY nice. I bet you are enjoying that full range sound!
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Post by djreef on Nov 16, 2016 23:04:38 GMT -5
It's pretty unreal.
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