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Post by joto on Nov 22, 2016 10:43:16 GMT -5
Am I better off with a multi strand cable or fewer strands of a smaller guage wire want to get down to about 9 guage for Maggie speakers. Also direct connect or banana plugs. Any advice wpuld be helpful.
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Post by butchgo on Nov 22, 2016 10:56:02 GMT -5
Check out Blue Jeans Cable. They have Canare 4S11. When you tie the whites and reds together you will have about a 9 gauge equivalent.
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Post by charlieeco on Nov 22, 2016 10:58:27 GMT -5
There´s a thread called "homemade cables", check posts by charlie eco, reAL GOOD and cheap home made cables 10 AWG
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Post by pedrocols on Nov 22, 2016 11:31:34 GMT -5
Second on the Canare 4S11. That is what I use with my MG 1.7s.
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Post by geebo on Nov 22, 2016 12:27:50 GMT -5
Check out Blue Jeans Cable. They have Canare 4S11. When you tie the whites and reds together you will have about a 9 gauge equivalent. Not exactly. When you double up on two wires of the same gauge you will effectively have an AWG that is bigger by 3 AWG. So in the case of two 14 AWG wires you will end up with 11 AWG. I like the Beldin 10 AWG sold by Bluejeans available in white or grey outer jacket.
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Post by 405x5 on Nov 22, 2016 12:41:12 GMT -5
Am I better off with a multi strand cable or fewer strands of a smaller guage wire want to get down to about 9 guage for Maggie speakers. Also direct connect or banana plugs. Any advice wpuld be helpful. 9 gauge is ridiculous under most circumstances so curious as to how and why you are looking for such an extreme thickness? Bill
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Post by butchgo on Nov 22, 2016 13:26:15 GMT -5
Check out Blue Jeans Cable. They have Canare 4S11. When you tie the whites and reds together you will have about a 9 gauge equivalent. Not exactly. When you double up on two wires of the same gauge you will effectively have an AWG that is bigger by 3 AWG. So in the case of two 14 AWG wires you will end up with 11 AWG. I like the Beldin 10 AWG sold by Bluejeans available in white or grey outer jacket. I have used the Beldin but it is really stiff and I thought it was kind of hard to work with.
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Post by Loop 7 on Nov 22, 2016 13:44:06 GMT -5
Blue Jeans.
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Post by cawgijoe on Nov 22, 2016 14:08:17 GMT -5
Second on the Canare 4S11. That is what I use with my MG 1.7s. Third on the Canare. Very nice cable. Two tied together equals 11g. Should be more than adequate for the job.
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Post by geebo on Nov 22, 2016 14:18:56 GMT -5
Not exactly. When you double up on two wires of the same gauge you will effectively have an AWG that is bigger by 3 AWG. So in the case of two 14 AWG wires you will end up with 11 AWG. I like the Beldin 10 AWG sold by Bluejeans available in white or grey outer jacket. I have used the Beldin but it is really stiff and I thought it was kind of hard to work with. It is on the stiff side but it makes for very good speaker wires. I didn't think it was too difficult to work with when I recently replaced five speaker connections.
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Post by vneal on Nov 22, 2016 17:15:30 GMT -5
Good speakers deserve good cables Kimber Kable 8TC
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Post by hosko on Nov 22, 2016 17:22:48 GMT -5
I have used the Beldin but it is really stiff and I thought it was kind of hard to work with. It is on the stiff side but it makes for very good speaker wires. I didn't think it was too difficult to work with when I recently replaced five speaker connections. I use Belden 5T00UP for everything at my place. I wouldnt say its stiff for 10awg cable it can do a 180deg bend in 2-3inches and looks nice in tech flex.
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Post by hosko on Nov 22, 2016 17:24:41 GMT -5
Good speakers deserve good cables Kimber Kable 8TC Any cable that says its neutral in its description is snake oil in my books.
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Post by vneal on Nov 22, 2016 20:58:59 GMT -5
Good speakers deserve good cables Kimber Kable 8TC Any cable that says its neutral in its description is snake oil in my books. Yes and Stereophile and Absolute Sound dont know sh** in that it has been a RECOMMENDED PRODUCT for years
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Post by 405x5 on Nov 22, 2016 23:04:42 GMT -5
Any cable that says its neutral in its description is snake oil in my books. Yes and Stereophile and Absolute Sound dont know sh** in that it has been a RECOMMENDED PRODUCT for years Six hundred bucks for NINE FEET of wire to connect ONE PAIR OF SPEAKERS Please excuse me while I RUN to the store😂 Bill
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Post by hosko on Nov 22, 2016 23:48:00 GMT -5
Any cable that says its neutral in its description is snake oil in my books. Yes and Stereophile and Absolute Sound dont know sh** in that it has been a RECOMMENDED PRODUCT for years There is little difference between good quality cables, poor cables sure. Admittedly the Kimber's test very well as done by Audioholics, but the price is stupid. If you have the money to spend go for it, they look nice and test well. But unless you have top of the range everywhere else in your system save the money. Here is the review of the Belden 5T00UP one of the dings was the look of the cable but that is easily fixed with TechFlex. Its also what a lot of installers use, its used in our studio.
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Post by RichGuy on Nov 23, 2016 0:24:48 GMT -5
Mogami 2921 is my personal favorite wire for speaker cables, I use Mogami 2921 wire with GLS locking bananas, super high quality, ultra flexible and excellent sound quality. Mogami makes the nicest wire for audio, it's the most professionally used wire in studio and on stage. One of my DIY speaker cables I made before the bananas were added:
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Post by 405x5 on Nov 23, 2016 11:06:47 GMT -5
I use Mogami 2921 wire with GLS locking bananas, super high quality, ultra flexible and excellent sound quality. " That's nice however wires have absolutely no "sound quality " of their own. This is a never ending falsehood that just won't die. Great however for lining the pockets of companies that prey on those who are ignorant to electrical engineering principle. Bill
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Post by joto on Nov 23, 2016 17:47:57 GMT -5
Thank you to all who responded. Anyone have experience with KnuKonceptz cable looks like it is very reasonably priced.
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Post by 405x5 on Nov 23, 2016 20:06:18 GMT -5
Thank you to all who responded. Anyone have experience with KnuKonceptz cable looks like it is very reasonably priced. Looks good.... Reasonable (very) as you say. Would just want to be sure those that are pre made are well terminated. For making your own however, can't go wrong with their wire. Bill
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