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Post by dust770 on Mar 13, 2017 23:04:59 GMT -5
Searched through Ansats Dirac posts but could not find this anywhere. I want to do some testing with new sub locations on Dirac but I don't want to lose my previously saved project. Is there a way to tell which project (Dirac file) is loaded in the XMC-1?
Also question number two. I had 3 subs in one location and ran Dirac for that location as "mono" I've kept one in the previous location and moved the other two to a new location. I would like to try to correct for dual sub locations, however when I plug in the newly located subs to the left sub output I can not run the test tones at the same time to try to get them in phase with each other. What am I missing here? Thanks
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Post by geebo on Mar 14, 2017 7:03:55 GMT -5
Searched through Ansats Dirac posts but could not find this anywhere. I want to do some testing with new sub locations on Dirac but I don't want to lose my previously saved project. Is there a way to tell which project (Dirac file) is loaded in the XMC-1? Also question number two. I had 3 subs in one location and ran Dirac for that location as "mono" I've kept one in the previous location and moved the other two to a new location. I would like to try to correct for dual sub locations, however when I plug in the newly located subs to the left sub output I can not run the test tones at the same time to try to get them in phase with each other. What am I missing here? Thanks No way I know of to retrieve a filter set from Dirac. I got in the habit of naming my saved projects with the date created and further make a copy of the current set and name it "current". Are all three subs connected to the left sub out? If so they should all play the same thing. If they're not all playing then something is wrong with a connection somewhere. To get a tone through just one sub you simply turn the other two off and turn on the ones you want to test in combination. |
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Post by KeithL on Mar 14, 2017 8:38:10 GMT -5
There is no way to tell what Dirac project is loaded into the XMC-1 (it just considers it to be "the Dirac set"). Dirac ALWAYS tests each speaker separately. The XMC-1 treats the balanced and unbalanced outputs for each channel as the same. This means that, if you have the XMC-1 set to have a single sub - which will be the same signal for BOTH THE BALANCED AND UNBALANCED SUB OUTPUTS - then Dirac will calibrate that as a single sub. If you have the XMC-1 set to TWO SUBS (Stereo or Dual Mono), Dirac will calibrate the "left sub" and "right sub" separately. The XMC-1 will only run test tones out of one output at once. If you want to run the test tones to multiple subs you will have to connect them all to one output to do so. (An alternative would be to record a MONAURAL test tone on a CD, of find a test CD that already has one, and play it through the XMC-1. Searched through Ansats Dirac posts but could not find this anywhere. I want to do some testing with new sub locations on Dirac but I don't want to lose my previously saved project. Is there a way to tell which project (Dirac file) is loaded in the XMC-1? Also question number two. I had 3 subs in one location and ran Dirac for that location as "mono" I've kept one in the previous location and moved the other two to a new location. I would like to try to correct for dual sub locations, however when I plug in the newly located subs to the left sub output I can not run the test tones at the same time to try to get them in phase with each other. What am I missing here? Thanks |
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Post by dust770 on Mar 14, 2017 17:26:14 GMT -5
Searched through Ansats Dirac posts but could not find this anywhere. I want to do some testing with new sub locations on Dirac but I don't want to lose my previously saved project. Is there a way to tell which project (Dirac file) is loaded in the XMC-1? Also question number two. I had 3 subs in one location and ran Dirac for that location as "mono" I've kept one in the previous location and moved the other two to a new location. I would like to try to correct for dual sub locations, however when I plug in the newly located subs to the left sub output I can not run the test tones at the same time to try to get them in phase with each other. What am I missing here? Thanks No way I know of to retrieve a filter set from Dirac. I got in the habit of naming my saved projects with the date created and further make a copy of the current set and name it "current". Are all three subs connected to the left sub out? If so they should all play the same thing. If they're not all playing then something is wrong with a connection somewhere. To get a tone through just one sub you simply turn the other two off and turn on the ones you want to test in combination. Thx geebo I've connected them to the left and right as they are in different locations. I didn't think having a single signal coming from two locations would correct right. ?? I was thinking it was better to have them corrected separately and then switch XMC to dual mono. I guess I could run Dirac with subs separately then hook them up to one output to make sure they are in phase with each other then hook them up separately again. Would that work? |
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Post by dust770 on Mar 14, 2017 17:31:01 GMT -5
There is no way to tell what Dirac project is loaded into the XMC-1 (it just considers it to be "the Dirac set"). Dirac ALWAYS tests each speaker separately. The XMC-1 treats the balanced and unbalanced outputs for each channel as the same. This means that, if you have the XMC-1 set to have a single sub - which will be the same signal for BOTH THE BALANCED AND UNBALANCED SUB OUTPUTS - then Dirac will calibrate that as a single sub. If you have the XMC-1 set to TWO SUBS (Stereo or Dual Mono), Dirac will calibrate the "left sub" and "right sub" separately. The XMC-1 will only run test tones out of one output at once. If you want to run the test tones to multiple subs you will have to connect them all to one output to do so. (An alternative would be to record a MONAURAL test tone on a CD, of find a test CD that already has one, and play it through the XMC-1. Searched through Ansats Dirac posts but could not find this anywhere. I want to do some testing with new sub locations on Dirac but I don't want to lose my previously saved project. Is there a way to tell which project (Dirac file) is loaded in the XMC-1? Also question number two. I had 3 subs in one location and ran Dirac for that location as "mono" I've kept one in the previous location and moved the other two to a new location. I would like to try to correct for dual sub locations, however when I plug in the newly located subs to the left sub output I can not run the test tones at the same time to try to get them in phase with each other. What am I missing here? Thanks Thanks Keith, Another Dirac question I had was concerning running the tests. I only care about the sweet spot in my theater room I don't really care about room correction for multiple seat locations. I mostly watch movies by myself or with my wife who could care less about her seat sounding right. In this case is it necessary to run all the tests at the different mic locations? Can I simply run the first "sweet spot" test and then proceed through the rest? Will this affect the results negatively? Thx again |
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Post by dust770 on Mar 14, 2017 18:47:27 GMT -5
There is no way to tell what Dirac project is loaded into the XMC-1 (it just considers it to be "the Dirac set"). Dirac ALWAYS tests each speaker separately. The XMC-1 treats the balanced and unbalanced outputs for each channel as the same. This means that, if you have the XMC-1 set to have a single sub - which will be the same signal for BOTH THE BALANCED AND UNBALANCED SUB OUTPUTS - then Dirac will calibrate that as a single sub. If you have the XMC-1 set to TWO SUBS (Stereo or Dual Mono), Dirac will calibrate the "left sub" and "right sub" separately. The XMC-1 will only run test tones out of one output at once. If you want to run the test tones to multiple subs you will have to connect them all to one output to do so. (An alternative would be to record a MONAURAL test tone on a CD, of find a test CD that already has one, and play it through the XMC-1. Searched through Ansats Dirac posts but could not find this anywhere. I want to do some testing with new sub locations on Dirac but I don't want to lose my previously saved project. Is there a way to tell which project (Dirac file) is loaded in the XMC-1? Also question number two. I had 3 subs in one location and ran Dirac for that location as "mono" I've kept one in the previous location and moved the other two to a new location. I would like to try to correct for dual sub locations, however when I plug in the newly located subs to the left sub output I can not run the test tones at the same time to try to get them in phase with each other. What am I missing here? Thanks Well another problem has arisen. During all this I started up Dirac and every time I get to the volume level page and start setting my output levels the program crashes. I've tried 20 times and I can't get past this page. I get a unexpected error notification and the app closes. Asks me if I want to report to Apple or reopen. I restarted laptop. Restarted XMC hardwiredan internet cable into the laptop and same thing every time. I'm using the same MacBook Pro I've had for a few years and there was no problems last time I ran Dirac. I'm running OS Sierra any help is appreciated |
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Post by socketman on Mar 14, 2017 20:21:57 GMT -5
Dust, i know what your trying to do and it cant be done with Dirac. Anthem will test each sub separately and then combine them . I read Dirac is coming out with a new version of Dirac Live as well as improvements but no idea if this address's the way bass is handle. I bought myself a minidsp 2x4 to mess around with my subs which others have also done, i use Room EQ Wizard with it and you can import your filters from REW into the minidsp. In one of the threads Ansat started he talks about how to set delays for subs that are in different positions. If you have subs with adjustable phase knobs you can use that to compensate.
I dont know jack about Apple computers sorry i cant help with that. I know on windows 10 i have to run with administrator privileges for it to work correctly. Maybe stop all background programs or restore to an ealier time maybe some update has caused an issue. Alternatively i know some people run windows under bootcamp though i am sure for an apple user thats like trying to read french.
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Post by dust770 on Mar 14, 2017 20:57:26 GMT -5
Dust, i know what your trying to do and it cant be done with Dirac. Anthem will test each sub separately and then combine them . I read Dirac is coming out with a new version of Dirac Live as well as improvements but no idea if this address's the way bass is handle. I bought myself a minidsp 2x4 to mess around with my subs which others have also done, i use Room EQ Wizard with it and you can import your filters from REW into the minidsp. In one of the threads Ansat started he talks about how to set delays for subs that are in different positions. If you have subs with adjustable phase knobs you can use that to compensate. I dont know jack about Apple computers sorry i cant help with that. I know on windows 10 i have to run with administrator privileges for it to work correctly. Maybe stop all background programs or restore to an ealier time maybe some update has caused an issue. Alternatively i know some people run windows under bootcamp though i am sure for an apple user thats like trying to read french. Thx socketman, I am the administrator on my macbook so that shouldnt be the issue. I have submitted a tech asst request with Dirac as well |
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Post by dust770 on Mar 14, 2017 20:57:48 GMT -5
Anyone else have any suggestions?
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Post by socketman on Mar 14, 2017 22:09:01 GMT -5
I know its a Mac so as i said i cant help you with that , but even with Windows 10 i am logged on as administrator but i have to right click my executable and choose run as administrator and there have been others that have to do so as well. Hopefully someone will come along versed in apple speak and get you up and running. Dont take offense since i dont know you at all and you may be also be competent on a windows machine. Very frustrating when things should work and for some reason they dont.
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Post by total2727 on Mar 14, 2017 23:22:33 GMT -5
As far as your subs go, when you get the bug worked out I will offer my experience with my subs. I tried my subs 2 ways ( I have 3 subs in my room) first using a splitter and set to mono. Sounded pretty good but didn't have the punch I thought it should have. I then ran them as dual mono ( 2 back subs together, front sub by itself) I liked this way much better. Play with different settings and speaker groupings, the great thing about Dirac is all the possibilities.
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Post by dust770 on Mar 15, 2017 0:33:14 GMT -5
As far as your subs go, when you get the bug worked out I will offer my experience with my subs. I tried my subs 2 ways ( I have 3 subs in my room) first using a splitter and set to mono. Sounded pretty good but didn't have the punch I thought it should have. I then ran them as dual mono ( 2 back subs together, front sub by itself) I liked this way much better. Play with different settings and speaker groupings, the great thing about Dirac is all the possibilities. Thanks I will give that a try once I get the program running |
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Post by dust770 on Mar 15, 2017 20:31:35 GMT -5
Good news, I'm not crazy. Spoke with Keith today, looks like there is an issue with Mac OS sierra and Dirac. Emotiva is working on it as we speak. Thought it might be as early next week for the fix!
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Post by melm on Mar 15, 2017 21:23:26 GMT -5
Interesting. Just tried my Dirac full app today.. it doesn't work here either, although it was working a couple of weeks ago... I'm on a Sierra beta which could be the problem.. hope they get it working again... soon!!
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Post by almue on Apr 5, 2017 7:31:52 GMT -5
I had a lot of problems with Dirac Full on my MacBook Pro as evidenced by the forum topic “Mac Dirac Full won’t connect to XMC-1”. Dirac Full 1.1.0 does not run well under OS X 10.11 El Capitan, it crash before computing the filters. The way I could have it run is as follows:
- Make a clean install of OS X 10.9.5 with no kernel extensions
- Reset the XMC-1 as advised by KeithL
- Dirac Full does only run once without problems. I had to reboot OS X to run it a second time which seems to indicate that there are problems with “leftovers” (memory leaks, etc.)
The OS X console log under shows that there are serious problems to run Dirac Full, especially so on recent Mac OS like El Capitan:
- The application is not signed. To sign the app you need a signature from Apple at a cost of USD 100 per year: Incomprehensible for a world class business like dirac.se.
- The application was first written in 2011 and recompiled in 2013 on OS X 10.9 (from the app property list).
- The application requires the Carbon environment (the Carbon environment was introduced by Apple to facilitate the migration between macOS 9 and OS X 10.1 _nine_ years ago and is now superseded by Cocoa). Interesting is that the console log warns about the use of deprecated calls: “This application, or a library it uses, is using the deprecated Carbon Component Manager for hosting Audio Units.”
- There are problems as noted elsewhere in this forum with the access to the network: “dnssd_clientstub deliver_request: socketpair failed 24 (Too many open files) ... Dirac Live for Emotiva[818] tcp_connection_host_start 6 DNSServiceGetAddrInfo failed: -65537-"
It seems that dirac.se does not care much about its Emotiva OEM and leave the Dirac app without much maintenance. To me that’s worrisome !
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Post by dust770 on Apr 12, 2017 16:40:10 GMT -5
I had a lot of problems with Dirac Full on my MacBook Pro as evidenced by the forum topic “Mac Dirac Full won’t connect to XMC-1”. Dirac Full 1.1.0 does not run well under OS X 10.11 El Capitan, it crash before computing the filters. The way I could have it run is as follows: - Make a clean install of OS X 10.9.5 with no kernel extensions - Reset the XMC-1 as advised by KeithL - Dirac Full does only run once without problems. I had to reboot OS X to run it a second time which seems to indicate that there are problems with “leftovers” (memory leaks, etc.) The OS X console log under shows that there are serious problems to run Dirac Full, especially so on recent Mac OS like El Capitan: - The application is not signed. To sign the app you need a signature from Apple at a cost of USD 100 per year: Incomprehensible for a world class business like dirac.se. - The application was first written in 2011 and recompiled in 2013 on OS X 10.9 (from the app property list). - The application requires the Carbon environment (the Carbon environment was introduced by Apple to facilitate the migration between macOS 9 and OS X 10.1 _nine_ years ago and is now superseded by Cocoa). Interesting is that the console log warns about the use of deprecated calls: “This application, or a library it uses, is using the deprecated Carbon Component Manager for hosting Audio Units.” - There are problems as noted elsewhere in this forum with the access to the network: “dnssd_clientstub deliver_request: socketpair failed 24 (Too many open files) ... Dirac Live for Emotiva[818] tcp_connection_host_start 6 DNSServiceGetAddrInfo failed: -65537-" It seems that dirac.se does not care much about its Emotiva OEM and leave the Dirac app without much maintenance. To me that’s worrisome ! I agree this is worrisome but the rest is very foreign to me I'm sorry but I wish I knew what you meant by a clean install with no kernel extension. I know nothing about computers. I use it for work and music storage and that's it. I would need a very lay mens terms explanation Has anyone heard back from Emotiva on this issue? |
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Post by almue on Jun 8, 2017 8:54:34 GMT -5
Sorry for the very late reply. A clean install is an operating system install on a blank disk. Why is this interesting: Because special software that was not part of the manufacturer's distribution (like 3rd party drivers) may interfere with the system's normal operation.
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