djreef
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Post by djreef on Jun 29, 2017 10:47:51 GMT -5
I hope the DC-2 has 1/4" and balanced headphone outputs and ability to power any headphones, but might already as I don't recall. A new DAC chip would be welcome addition. One other thing I'd like to see is a 100WPC into 8ohm amp in the same form factor. I'd be set for desktop music. Also they have announced they are working on a high power headphone amp. But in case you don't want to wait they already have a (very) high power headphone amp for sale - the mini-x a100 . Which just so happens to be a quite good speaker amp! It also fits the current dimensions of the DC-1 chassis so it stacks well together though the amp is deeper. And A-100 is ridiculously inexpensive. DJ
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Post by garbulky on Jun 29, 2017 10:54:09 GMT -5
Also they have announced they are working on a high power headphone amp. But in case you don't want to wait they already have a (very) high power headphone amp for sale - the mini-x a100 . Which just so happens to be a quite good speaker amp! It also fits the current dimensions of the DC-1 chassis so it stacks well together though the amp is deeper. And A-100 is ridiculously inexpensive. DJ It really is. It's everything I can do not to sneak it in under my wife's nose. They need to just take that unit, repurpose them as balanced headphone monoblocks and reap all the profits from that venture. Seriously. That's all it needs to be some sort of statement flagship of the headphone world. You ever heard of balanced monoblock headphone amps for $400 a pair with huge amounts of power? You'd be looking at Woo Audio for something that niche.
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djreef
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Post by djreef on Jun 29, 2017 10:58:02 GMT -5
And A-100 is ridiculously inexpensive. DJ It really is. It's everything I can do not to sneak it in under my wife's nose. They need to just take that unit, repurpose them as balanced headphone monoblocks and reap all the profits from that venture. Seriously. That's all it needs to be some sort of statement flagship of the headphone world. Same here. I really want to do a side by side with the Jotunheim, but given that we had to unexpectedly drop $1600 to fix the AC (on top of all my other cool B-Day surprises), not much is getting past the budget director this month. DJ
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Post by dragonV on Jun 30, 2017 0:31:24 GMT -5
Please have a 12v trigger....
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Post by dragonV on Jun 30, 2017 20:43:27 GMT -5
How about an add-on enclosure to make the unit full width 1U high? How bout having two versions, full width as well as current size...win win.
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Post by novisnick on Jul 14, 2017 18:35:43 GMT -5
Getting closer to the release date. Now, if there on the same boat as the rack ears Im waiting to order,,,,,well, lets just say it won't be this year! π²
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Post by johnrice on Jul 17, 2017 12:40:04 GMT -5
I'm not holding my breath, but I'd love to see an hdmi input and DSD, so I can use it to play back SACDs with my Oppo BR player.
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Post by Loop 7 on Jul 17, 2017 14:06:05 GMT -5
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Post by johnrice on Jul 17, 2017 14:34:06 GMT -5
HDTracks has a growing selection of DSD. They have a lot of SFSO, but most aren't DSD. Generally 88.1-96/24, and some 176/24, but nowhere near $40.
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Post by Loop 7 on Jul 17, 2017 14:49:16 GMT -5
HDTracks has a growing selection of DSD. They have a lot of SFSO, but most aren't DSD. Generally 88.1-96/24, and some 176/24, but nowhere near $40. I'm asking about DSD specifically. I've purchased numerous high resolution PCM albums but no DSD yet.
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Post by KeithL on Jul 17, 2017 15:29:09 GMT -5
I assume you know you can set the Oppo to "play SACDs as PCM"........ I'm not holding my breath, but I'd love to see an hdmi input and DSD, so I can use it to play back SACDs with my Oppo BR player. NOTE/CORRECTION: Even if you set your Oppo to "output SACD as PCM" it will only work via HDMI. The copy protection on PHYSICAL SACD DISCS prevents players from delivering a full quality digital audio output via anything except HDMI. (That applies to both DSD and PCM, but does NOT apply to DSD file downloads - ONLY discs.)
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Post by Gary Cook on Jul 17, 2017 16:10:35 GMT -5
The Egos use a Cirrus Logic DAC while getting the power from the USB outlet of your computer. Correction, the Ego's use TI/Burr Brown DAC's and they truly sound beautiful, better to my ears than the DAC implementations used in the XDA-1, XDA-2, UMC-1 or the UMC-200. And way better than Oppo 93, 95, 103 or 105. That's for pre amping headphones or speakers. Sure it's not a huge difference but my experience has been that their sound quality wins over people, they listen and then buy. Emotiva sold 4 as a result of people just listening to mine. Personally I'm hoping for a full width X series style withTI/Burr Brown DAC's, all the various inputs and outputs with no internal pre amp or headphone amp. Just a DAC, nothing more. Cheers Gary
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Post by novisnick on Jul 17, 2017 16:16:02 GMT -5
The Egos use a Cirrus Logic DAC while getting the power from the USB outlet of your computer. Correction, the Ego's use TI/Burr Brown DAC's and they truly sound beautiful, better to my ears than the DAC implementations used in the XDA-1, XDA-2, UMC-1 or the UMC-200. And way better than Oppo 93, 95, 103 or 105. That's for pre amping headphones or speakers. Sure it's not a huge difference but my experience has been that their sound quality wins over people, they listen and then buy. Emotiva sold 4 as a result of people just listening to mine. Personally I'm hoping for a full width X series style withTI/Burr Brown DAC's, all the various inputs and outputs with no internal pre amp or headphone amp. Just a DAC, nothing more. Cheers Gary Im with you all the way Gary! ππΆ Maybe an optical MQA hardware implementation, using just software and my DC-1 and its devine! Of course the tube flavor Ive added doesn't hurt! π Party in my ears! ππΆππΆ Irony alert, I type this while spinning vinyl! LOL
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Post by supernova on Jul 17, 2017 19:09:06 GMT -5
Was there an expected release date?
I wish we had a little more information on what may be added or changes to the unit.
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Post by hemster on Jul 17, 2017 19:28:29 GMT -5
Was there an expected release date? I wish we had a little more information on what may be added or changes to the unit. Agreed. I'm looking to upgrade from my DC-1. Maybe we'll know more at Emofest. Keep it tuned here on the lounge for more info!
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Post by johnrice on Jul 18, 2017 16:14:34 GMT -5
I assume you know you can set the Oppo to "play SACDs as PCM"........ I'm not holding my breath, but I'd love to see an hdmi input and DSD, so I can use it to play back SACDs with my Oppo BR player. I thought that when you did that it only output through hdmi, not coax/optical when you play an SACD, which puts me right back in the same place. Am I wrong about that? I could have sworn I tried that when I first got the Oppo and the digital outputs cut out when I played an SACD. I guess it's easy enough to try. Doesn't it also down sample it to 24/96?
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Post by jtwrace on Jul 20, 2017 9:25:36 GMT -5
I'm hoping the DC-2 will be the same form factor and of course really have DSD512 capability so I can upsample to that. Remote volume control like the DC-1 is important to me as I go direct to my amp which drives my JBL M2 Master Reference speakers. All of this is fed from my 24TB Synology NAS via a Sotm sMS-200 streamer. I currently use the Mytek Brooklyn and I'm hoping for similar objective performance but with the added capability of DSD512. The balanced out and RCA input are essential as well.
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Post by KeithL on Jul 20, 2017 10:24:59 GMT -5
My bad... you're quite right. Players are essentially forbidden from providing a full quality digital audio output from an SACD disc via any digital format OTHER THAN HDMI. It has nothing to do with DSD itself - and does NOT apply to DSD FILES - it's part of the copy protection associated with PHYSICAL SACD DISCS. I assume you know you can set the Oppo to "play SACDs as PCM"........ I thought that when you did that it only output through hdmi, not coax/optical when you play an SACD, which puts me right back in the same place. Am I wrong about that? I could have sworn I tried that when I first got the Oppo and the digital outputs cut out when I played an SACD. I guess it's easy enough to try. Doesn't it also down sample it to 24/96?
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Post by KeithL on Jul 20, 2017 10:31:57 GMT -5
I'm a little curious why you would want to UPSAMPLE to DSD512. (Ignoring the argument about whether RECORDING in DSD has some benefit; converting to it, or upsampling after the recording is made, doesn't gain you much, if anything at all.) I'm hoping the DC-2 will be the same form factor and of course really have DSD512 capability so I can upsample to that. Remote volume control like the DC-1 is important to me as I go direct to my amp which drives my JBL M2 Master Reference speakers. All of this is fed from my 24TB Synology NAS via a Sotm sMS-200 streamer. I currently use the Mytek Brooklyn and I'm hoping for similar objective performance but with the added capability of DSD512. The balanced out and RCA input are essential as well.
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Post by jtwrace on Jul 20, 2017 19:15:15 GMT -5
I'm a little curious why you would want to UPSAMPLE to DSD512. (Ignoring the argument about whether RECORDING in DSD has some benefit; converting to it, or upsampling after the recording is made, doesn't gain you much, if anything at all.) I'm hoping the DC-2 will be the same form factor and of course really have DSD512 capability so I can upsample to that. Remote volume control like the DC-1 is important to me as I go direct to my amp which drives my JBL M2 Master Reference speakers. All of this is fed from my 24TB Synology NAS via a Sotm sMS-200 streamer. I currently use the Mytek Brooklyn and I'm hoping for similar objective performance but with the added capability of DSD512. The balanced out and RCA input are essential as well. There are many many topics on this across various forums with both objective data and subjective data. Upsampling via software has very large advantages. Sonically it's pretty amazing! Of course, like anything, it has to be done correctly. XXHigh End, HQ Player and Roon have it figured out. Personally, I use Roon as I have a very large library and it's seamless and only getting better I use a streamer attached so either one can use the upsampling via Roon or HQ Player (NAA).
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