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Post by leonski on May 28, 2018 14:49:49 GMT -5
Thanks for the vote, Chicago.
While what you say is true about 2x = +3db, +10db is 10x power. And than it gets weird.
I don't argue about dynamics. Speakers will tolerate plenty of power for short time periods.
It's the nose-bleed guys who 'do the math' and think they're OK. Speakers get plenty warm inside and change electrically for the worse, as a result.
Building a system is not a dart throw.
'Falling In Love' with more sensitive speakers is an easy way to 'NET' more amplifier power without going into Mega Power amps. The most sensitive Klipsch from 30 years ago were FINE with 10 a side and would
get you evicted from your state.
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Post by gsand on May 28, 2018 16:42:31 GMT -5
Many subscribe to THIS philosophy: www.firstwatt.compeople Tend to overestimate how much power they actually use, let alone need. Many get sick of reading that the only reason one should pursue a high-powered amp is if one wants to listen at 100+ sustained dB, based on +3 dB equals a doubling of amplifier requirements. We get it. Agreed! |
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Post by Gary Cook on May 28, 2018 16:57:31 GMT -5
Just buy the DR-1's and move on, they have the monoblock advantages, put them close by their respective speakers and use the shortest speaker cables that you can with long XLR balance interconnects. Aside from the obvious physical disadvantages, if you buy the DR-2 you will always be wondering if the DR-1's would have been a better choice. If the budget is available then a pair of DR-1's is a no regrets choice and good power amplifiers last a long long time, decades even.
Cheers
Gary
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Post by davidl81 on May 28, 2018 17:36:25 GMT -5
Just buy the DR-1's and move on, they have the monoblock advantages, put them close by their respective speakers and use the shortest speaker cables that you can with long XLR balance interconnects. Aside from the obvious physical disadvantages, if you buy the DR-2 you will always be wondering if the DR-1's would have been a better choice. If the budget is available then a pair of DR-1's is a no regrets choice and good power amplifiers last a long long time, decades even. Cheers Gary Good advice Gary! While I doubt there is really much difference in the two, of you buy the DR-1’s you will never wonder if you missed out on anything. Honestly that is worth a few hundred dollars. |
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Post by chicagorspec on May 28, 2018 18:17:34 GMT -5
Thanks for the vote, Chicago. While what you say is true about 2x = +3db, +10db is 10x power. And than it gets weird. I don't argue about dynamics. Speakers will tolerate plenty of power for short time periods. It's the nose-bleed guys who 'do the math' and think they're OK. Speakers get plenty warm inside and change electrically for the worse, as a result. Building a system is not a dart throw. 'Falling In Love' with more sensitive speakers is an easy way to 'NET' more amplifier power without going into Mega Power amps. The most sensitive Klipsch from 30 years ago were FINE with 10 a side and would get you evicted from your state. Not everyone is looking for you to “save” them. |
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Post by leonski on May 28, 2018 20:32:48 GMT -5
What did I say that was wrong?
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Post by assy74 on May 31, 2018 13:27:23 GMT -5
I like to play loud! And I have big hungry speakers..... That play better the moore power they get  |
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Post by leonski on May 31, 2018 14:38:26 GMT -5
As long as you listen for distortion and keep it sort'a reasonable you'll be OK. Speaker 'efficiency' is a pretty low number. Only RARELY above about 4% or 5%.
The rest is heat, which is destructive, or at least 'not good' for speakers. As speakers heat, they also change electrically. And not for the better.
Distortion and heat are the enemies of good sound.
My panels like 'mo betta', too. But they are VERY low sensitivity and aven the current 200x2 per speaker doesnt' bother them. I could probably add power to the system to the point that when I powered ON, the neighborhood
would blink. But at that point, I doubt I could afford the electric bill...
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