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Post by jiriza84641 on Aug 8, 2018 11:47:02 GMT -5
Marantz 8802A or the 8805, pros, cons, etc.
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Post by wilburthegoose on Aug 8, 2018 12:12:43 GMT -5
I had a Marantz. Upgraded to the Emotiva XMC-1 - best move I ever made.
Audio and video qualities are much better. And no more crappy Audyssey.
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Post by Bonzo on Aug 8, 2018 12:13:50 GMT -5
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Post by Bonzo on Aug 8, 2018 12:22:15 GMT -5
I had a Marantz. Upgraded to the Emotiva XMC-1 - best move I ever made. Audio and video qualities are much better. And no more crappy Audyssey. Yes, but yet again, you are another person chiming in who is not talking about the 8802 or 8805. There is a HUGE difference. It's too bad Marantz can't be more consistent, but it is what it is. Chevy makes the Spark and the Corvette. Unless you had an 8802a and then went to an XMC-1, your point is irrelevant and mute. But will agree, the Audyssey is the Achilles heal. But that is currently completely offset by the fact the Marantz's do Atmos and DTS:X, NOW. Not who knows when like Emotiva (and please don't anyone say soon or just around the corner). If someone wants 4 height channels and great sound, now, the best bang for the buck right now in processors is the 8802a, followed by the Anthem. |
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Post by mgbpuff on Aug 8, 2018 12:30:25 GMT -5
What's to talk about? If you want greater than 11 channels, then the 8805 is what you need.
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Post by Bonzo on Aug 8, 2018 13:08:26 GMT -5
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Post by davidl81 on Aug 8, 2018 15:35:03 GMT -5
So I have a Marantz AV8802a after upgrading from the SR7009. I can tell you without a doubt the AV8802 is in a whole different league than the SR7009. So if you upgraded a lower level Marantz to the XMC then it is not a true comparison IMO.
I personally was waiting for the RMC (I don’t need 9.2.6, but do need 7.2.4), but with the delays I went with the AV8802a as a stop gap measure. I picked up an open box on eBay for $1700 and it is a great value. So much so that I really doubt I get the RMC anymore and I may sell my 40% off card to re coup some of my cost on the 8802. I do admit I have never used DIRAC and I may be missing out on some things, but I am very happy with my 8802 now.
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Post by davidl81 on Aug 8, 2018 15:37:52 GMT -5
I had a Marantz. Upgraded to the Emotiva XMC-1 - best move I ever made. Audio and video qualities are much better. And no more crappy Audyssey. Also there is no way you can say the video on the XMC is better than the AV8802 or 8805 at this point. The Marantz supports 4K, HDR, DV with no issues. The XMC is still working out a ton of bugs on their new board. I have no doubt the XMC will get there at some point, but if we are talking what we get today then the Marantz wins going away. |
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Post by emofrmcgy on Aug 8, 2018 16:06:00 GMT -5
I had a Marantz. Upgraded to the Emotiva XMC-1 - best move I ever made. Audio and video qualities are much better. And no more crappy Audyssey. Yes, but yet again, you are another person chiming in who is not talking about the 8802 or 8805. There is a HUGE difference. It's too bad Marantz can't be more consistent, but it is what it is. Chevy makes the Spark and the Corvette. Unless you had an 8802a and then went to an XMC-1, your point is irrelevant and mute. But will agree, the Audyssey is the Achilles heal. But that is currently completely offset by the fact the Marantz's do Atmos and DTS:X, NOW. Not who knows when like Emotiva (and please don't anyone say soon or just around the corner). If someone wants 4 height channels and great sound, now, the best bang for the buck right now in processors is the 8802a, followed by the Anthem. BUT!!!!!! This is the Emotiva lounge so Emotiva gear gets the nod more often, just because. I went from an xmc to a marantz 7702mk2, didn’t miss the xmc one bit. Did miss Dirac, used a pair of minidsp units and they were much more reliable than my xmc. Decided I wanted a one box pre and amp solution so bought an anthem mrx1120. Prefer it much better than the marantz but would still like to tinker with the new flagship marantz offerings. Has the audyssey app been backported to work with the 8802a ?? From my dealings/talkings with other “enthusiasts” the app has made audyssey a much better arc option. |
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Post by bootman on Aug 8, 2018 16:34:14 GMT -5
You always see Marantz units here on sale in the emporium. So there is that.  Pick up a 8805 now. |
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Post by Bonzo on Aug 8, 2018 16:39:44 GMT -5
Has the audyssey app been backported to work with the 8802a ?? From my dealings/talkings with other “enthusiasts” the app has made audyssey a much better arc option. Hard to tell for 100% sure. Their website says only the 7703 can do it when you read the comparability chart. But, when you read the details for the products, the 7704 and the 8805 can too. Not sure if this is something that could be done via firmware update or not. The 8802a does support Audyssey Installer Pro. |
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Post by creimes on Aug 8, 2018 17:39:00 GMT -5
A buddy of mine that has the XMC-1 was wanting to get the 4K board but then he will also want the Atmos upgrade in the future but the cost of all these upgrades in Canada is very steep, I told him sell the XMC-1 and get the Anthem AVM60, if the 8802a and 8805 are indeed better than the lower end pre/pro's than that would be an option for him as well other than the 8802a in Canada is $5400 and the 8805 is $5999  He just bought a Optoma 4k projector so he wants to do the rest of his system, he wants to stay with his XMC-1 but the upgrades and wait times are getting a bit out of hand already, luckily I'm old school with 5.2 bahahaha. Chad |
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Post by Bonzo on Aug 8, 2018 18:31:26 GMT -5
A buddy of mine that has the XMC-1 was wanting to get the 4K board but then he will also want the Atmos upgrade in the future but the cost of all these upgrades in Canada is very steep, I told him sell the XMC-1 and get the Anthem AVM60, if the 8802a and 8805 are indeed better than the lower end pre/pro's than that would be an option for him as well other than the 8802a in Canada is $5400 and the 8805 is $5999 He just bought a Optoma 4k projector so he wants to do the rest of his system, he wants to stay with his XMC-1 but the upgrades and wait times are getting a bit out of hand already, luckily I'm old school with 5.2 bahahaha. Chad What makes the 8802a so appealing now, more so than ever in some ways, is its last remnant pricing. You need to check again what it's currently going for in Canada. Its almost certainly cheaper than what you are quoting. It used to sell here for $4000. But you can now get it brand new for $2500 here without any searching around. Search around and it might be even cheaper. Something that MIGHT keep it relevant for a long while is this new "pinning" of .4 Atmos channels, and that DTS:X is only 4 height channels. If the .4 becomes the normal standard for most folks, that means the .4 in the 8802a is all one will ever need under normal room circumstances. |
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Post by Bonzo on Aug 8, 2018 18:34:08 GMT -5
Forgot to say, better hurry, the 8802a will NOT be around very long for people who want brand new.
But I'm sure there will be deals to be had from people switching to the 8805. And at some point, the RMC.
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Post by creimes on Aug 8, 2018 19:14:47 GMT -5
A buddy of mine that has the XMC-1 was wanting to get the 4K board but then he will also want the Atmos upgrade in the future but the cost of all these upgrades in Canada is very steep, I told him sell the XMC-1 and get the Anthem AVM60, if the 8802a and 8805 are indeed better than the lower end pre/pro's than that would be an option for him as well other than the 8802a in Canada is $5400 and the 8805 is $5999 He just bought a Optoma 4k projector so he wants to do the rest of his system, he wants to stay with his XMC-1 but the upgrades and wait times are getting a bit out of hand already, luckily I'm old school with 5.2 bahahaha. Chad What makes the 8802a so appealing now, more so than ever in some ways, is its last remnant pricing. You need to check again what it's currently going for in Canada. Its almost certainly cheaper than what you are quoting. It used to sell here for $4000. But you can now get it brand new for $2500 here without any searching around. Search around and it might be even cheaper. Something that MIGHT keep it relevant for a long while is this new "pinning" of .4 Atmos channels, and that DTS:X is only 4 height channels. If the .4 becomes the normal standard for most folks, that means the .4 in the 8802a is all one will ever need under normal room circumstances. Or B-Stock gibbyselectronicsupermarket.ca/product/marantz-av8802-b-stock-11-2-channel-network-av-preamplifier/ |
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Post by Bonzo on Aug 8, 2018 21:03:35 GMT -5
Time to find a U.S. friend to buy it and then physically go get it while on vacation. That price is more than double. Current rate is about 1.3, not more than double. Nuts. |
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Post by creimes on Aug 9, 2018 0:33:27 GMT -5
Time to find a U.S. friend to buy it and then physically go get it while on vacation. That price is more than double. Current rate is about 1.3, not more than double. Nuts. He drives truck and crosses the Canadian/US border multiple times a day so he could order one from crutchfield.com and have it shipped within the US and just bring it back paying the taxes, if done that way he would pay about $3675 CAD instead of $5777 taxes in from crutchfield.ca $2100 savings doing it that way, so ridiculous  |
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Post by creimes on Aug 9, 2018 0:49:50 GMT -5
So I have a Marantz AV8802a after upgrading from the SR7009. I can tell you without a doubt the AV8802 is in a whole different league than the SR7009. So if you upgraded a lower level Marantz to the XMC then it is not a true comparison IMO. I personally was waiting for the RMC (I don’t need 9.2.6, but do need 7.2.4), but with the delays I went with the AV8802a as a stop gap measure. I picked up an open box on eBay for $1700 and it is a great value. So much so that I really doubt I get the RMC anymore and I may sell my 40% off card to re coup some of my cost on the 8802. I do admit I have never used DIRAC and I may be missing out on some things, but I am very happy with my 8802 now. I guess this right here explains why the AV7702 I owned lacked in dynamics for music haha, pretty much my findings to a tee with it, found it lifeless and dull, sucks when you spend that kind of money only to find out music will sound a lot better if you would have spent double what you spent on the 7702 lol yikes "The AV8802A's long list of upgrades includes a massive toroidal transformer with oxygen-free copper windings encased in an aluminum housing for superior current delivery and low noise. Large power supply capacitors offer more than double the reserve current capacity of Marantz's AV7702 for increased dynamics. AKM's latest-generation 32-bit DACs are used on all channels to provide exceptional resolution and transparency. The '8802's heavy copper-plated chassis includes a three-piece top-panel plus a double-layer bottom plate to provide a solid, vibration-resistant foundation" |
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Post by creimes on Aug 9, 2018 0:53:42 GMT -5
Marantz 8802A or the 8805, pros, cons, etc. A trusted member here has a 8805 for sale in the Emporium section, just an FYI Cheers, Chad |
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Post by rtg97229 on Aug 9, 2018 0:57:07 GMT -5
I had a 8802a, was a great unit that I sold too soon. I thought the XMC-1 would have an atmos upgrade by now. The XMC-1 does sound clearer but the lack of atmos is annoying. Both the 8802a and XMC-1 are good units that I would recommend overall just for different reasons. The 8802a for features and the XMC-1 for sound quality.
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