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Post by Boomzilla on Nov 7, 2018 21:15:28 GMT -5
Aa I understand them, the server edition is meant to run "headless" with no mouse, keyboard, or monitor needed. The regular Roon offers greater flexibility.
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Post by Boomzilla on Nov 7, 2018 21:33:16 GMT -5
IOS version on iPad = 12 OSX version on Mac Mini = 10.14 (Mojave)
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Post by Loop 7 on Nov 7, 2018 21:55:29 GMT -5
Aa I understand them, the server edition is meant to run "headless" with no mouse, keyboard, or monitor needed. The regular Roon offers greater flexibility. My understanding as well. I have server running on a Mac Mini that is NOT connected to a DAC. It simply runs as the server with all the music being on a Synology NAS (both connected via ethernet to router). The other Mac Mini (in the 2 channel rack) is headless, running Roon Bridge and connected to a DAC. Oh, and this headless Mac Mini running Bridge is connected via WiFi. Yes, wirelessly and it has never had an issue. These are both uni-taskers for sure but they are 6 year old hardware, both with SSDs I installed so they offer good performance. I've never heard a skip or dropout.
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Post by audiosyndrome on Nov 7, 2018 22:02:44 GMT -5
Hey Boom- we both missed it; when installing roon you have the option to use your cover art, or let roon find the cover art. Fortunately, you don't have to do anything manually to fix your situation. Just go back into settings and tell roon to use your cover art and whala, all will be changed back to yours automatically. By the way, I find room's ability to find correct high definition cover art superb. Far superior to iTunes in which my library is installed.
Also have the same setup as you and no problems whatsoever other than the initial cover art issue. You’re going to love it.
Russ
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Post by Casey Leedom on Nov 7, 2018 23:17:04 GMT -5
Boomzilla, are you talking about the Roon Controller application? Remember, Roon abstracts the concepts of 1. a Roon Bridge (a client in Client/Server parlance) which has networking on one side, and an Audio Output connection on the other, 2. a Roon Core (the server in the Client/Server parlance), and 3. a Roon Controller which you might run on an iPhone or iPad, etc. Any combination of these can be on the same system. For instance, on my MacBook Pro I have both a Roon Controller and a Roon Bridge (which drives my laptop's speakers when I want to listen to music there). Casey
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Post by Boomzilla on Nov 8, 2018 0:06:22 GMT -5
I have some version of a Roon Core on the Mac Mini in the computer room. I have Roon Bridge installed on the same Mac Mini in the computer room. I have Roon Remote installed on an iPad in the listening room
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Post by DYohn on Nov 8, 2018 12:21:07 GMT -5
I have some version of a Roon Core on the Mac Mini in the computer room. I have Roon Bridge installed on the same Mac Mini in the computer room. I have Roon Remote installed on an iPad in the listening room You shouldn't need the bridge application.
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Post by novisnick on Nov 8, 2018 12:35:43 GMT -5
I have some version of a Roon Core on the Mac Mini in the computer room. I have Roon Bridge installed on the same Mac Mini in the computer room. I have Roon Remote installed on an iPad in the listening room You shouldn't need the bridge application. I concur.
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Post by Casey Leedom on Nov 8, 2018 12:39:24 GMT -5
Unless he wants to listen to his music selection on the Mac Mini itself. As I noted earlier, I have the Mac OS Roon Controller and Bridge installed on my MacBook Pro. This allows me to use my laptop to control the system (although I mostly use my iPhone for that) and, if I want, listen to music on my laptop (although that's also rare).
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Post by Boomzilla on Nov 8, 2018 13:32:50 GMT -5
You shouldn't need the bridge application. Correct - Works fine without it. Thanks.
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Post by DYohn on Nov 8, 2018 13:46:55 GMT -5
Unless he wants to listen to his music selection on the Mac Mini itself. As I noted earlier, I have the Mac OS Roon Controller and Bridge installed on my MacBook Pro. This allows me to use my laptop to control the system (although I mostly use my iPhone for that) and, if I want, listen to music on my laptop (although that's also rare). Casey Mac OS are Roon endpoints. No additional software required. Bridge is to allow other external audio devices that are not endpoints to appear in the application.
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Post by Casey Leedom on Nov 8, 2018 13:52:36 GMT -5
Yeah, the Roon Folks seem to have changed their terminology a bit ago and mostly dropped the "Roon Endpoint" phrase. Now they just refer to "Roon Bridge". In this case, the "Roon Bridge" on Mac OS is a bridge between the Roon Network Protocol and the Audio Device on the Mac.
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Post by Loop 7 on Nov 8, 2018 14:18:42 GMT -5
I have some version of a Roon Core on the Mac Mini in the computer room. I have Roon Bridge installed on the same Mac Mini in the computer room. I have Roon Remote installed on an iPad in the listening room Have you uninstalled Bridge?
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Post by DYohn on Nov 8, 2018 14:21:21 GMT -5
Again, a Mac OS computer does not require any Bridge software to function as a Roon endpoint. You just need to enable the output using the Roon control app. kb.roonlabs.com/Audio_Setup_BasicsAnd by the way, neither does a PC running windows that is running the Roon control app.
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Post by Boomzilla on Nov 8, 2018 14:51:51 GMT -5
I have some version of a Roon Core on the Mac Mini in the computer room. I have Roon Bridge installed on the same Mac Mini in the computer room. I have Roon Remote installed on an iPad in the listening room Have you uninstalled Bridge? Not yet, but I plan to. I just restarted the computer & didn't start the bridge - just the Roon (non-server) program. Seems to recognize the Oppo & work fine.
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Post by DYohn on Nov 8, 2018 14:54:16 GMT -5
Have you uninstalled Bridge? Not yet, but I plan to. I just restarted the computer & didn't start the bridge - just the Roon (non-server) program. Seems to recognize the Oppo & work fine. If the Roon Core is installed on the Mac, you don't have to start anything it is always running in the background. You should simply need to run the Roon control ap on some other device on your network. You can run it on the same machine hosting the core, but that's not required.
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Post by Boomzilla on Nov 8, 2018 15:08:38 GMT -5
I tried to delete Roon server. I couldn't because it was running (despite the fact that it did not show up in the "force quit" pane). I then rebooted the Mini, telling it not to automatically restart programs on startup. After the reboot, I was able to delete the Roon Server and to install the Roon (core) instead.
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Post by wilburthegoose on Nov 8, 2018 15:20:50 GMT -5
(come over to the dark side - windows ) I'm kidding!
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Post by Loop 7 on Nov 8, 2018 15:36:31 GMT -5
(come over to the dark side - windows ) I'm kidding! Intel NUCs running Windows 10 sure seem to extremely popular for Roon server. I'm also curious about ROCK (Roon Optimized Core Kit). A Roon specific OS.
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Post by Loop 7 on Nov 8, 2018 16:04:25 GMT -5
My Roon endpoints. To my ears, Chromecast endpoints sound pretty bad.
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