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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 29, 2018 7:35:38 GMT -5
Quite a list, pretty impressive! Have you seen a list of 4K monitors with DisplayPort to go with it, I guess at this point you’d want DisplayPort 1.4a w/HDCP 2.2? Are you using HDMI or DP?
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Post by klinemj on Nov 29, 2018 8:08:23 GMT -5
The thing that makes thunderbolt so attractive, is that it leverages a common physical interface, and allows PCIexpress, DisplayPort, USB, Power and other very useful protocols to ride on top of TB. I personally see it as the next "USB" - and therefore have started standardizing as much as I possibly can on it personally. Most of my laptops and desktop computers have ThunderBolt interfaces, and I've swithced to USB-C/ThunderBolt charging of my laptops/peripherals. With that said, having USB-C or Thunderbolt on an audio processor/interface/device isn't something I see as very beneficial at the moment, but something I do believe will be important in 3-5 years time from now. I have plenty of USB-C to USB-A adaptors/cables that I could quite happily use if I wanted/needed to for the time being. Once we hit the tipping point of devices moving over to USB-C and Thunderbolt, I suspect the demand for having this type of interface on audio equipment will be more advantageous. I wouldn't be surprised in the least to see consumer electronics adopt ThunderBolt, and by extension DisplayPort, as the video/audio transport in the future, eventually moving away from the HDMI physical interface. Interesting stuff - thanks for sharing! Are all USB-C's Thunderbolt? I will do like USB-C over all prior versions. for ease of use if nothing else...being reversible is great. And, the connector seems a lot sturdier than micro-b's Mark
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Post by KeithL on Nov 29, 2018 9:47:02 GMT -5
Thunderbolt is a proprietary Apple interface - which happens to use the same connector as USB-C and be able to coexist with it. The cables are also interchangeable.
Thunderbolt requires an Apple-proprietary hardware chip, so only Apple devices stated to have "Thunderbolt ports" support it; normal USB-C ports DO NOT support Thunderbolt. Thunderbolt 3 is designed to be compatible with USB-C; so Thunderbolt 3 ports DO support USB-C.
www.cnet.com/how-to/usb-type-c-thunderbolt-3-one-cable-to-connect-them-all/The thing that makes thunderbolt so attractive, is that it leverages a common physical interface, and allows PCIexpress, DisplayPort, USB, Power and other very useful protocols to ride on top of TB. I personally see it as the next "USB" - and therefore have started standardizing as much as I possibly can on it personally. Most of my laptops and desktop computers have ThunderBolt interfaces, and I've swithced to USB-C/ThunderBolt charging of my laptops/peripherals. With that said, having USB-C or Thunderbolt on an audio processor/interface/device isn't something I see as very beneficial at the moment, but something I do believe will be important in 3-5 years time from now. I have plenty of USB-C to USB-A adaptors/cables that I could quite happily use if I wanted/needed to for the time being. Once we hit the tipping point of devices moving over to USB-C and Thunderbolt, I suspect the demand for having this type of interface on audio equipment will be more advantageous. I wouldn't be surprised in the least to see consumer electronics adopt ThunderBolt, and by extension DisplayPort, as the video/audio transport in the future, eventually moving away from the HDMI physical interface. Interesting stuff - thanks for sharing! Are all USB-C's Thunderbolt? I will do like USB-C over all prior versions. for ease of use if nothing else...being reversible is great. And, the connector seems a lot sturdier than micro-b's Mark
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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 29, 2018 10:17:09 GMT -5
Thunderbolt is a proprietary Apple interface - which happens to use the same connector as USB-C and be able to coexist with it. The cables are also interchangeable.
Thunderbolt requires an Apple-proprietary hardware chip, so only Apple devices stated to have "Thunderbolt ports" support it; normal USB-C ports DO NOT support Thunderbolt. Thunderbolt 3 is designed to be compatible with USB-C; so Thunderbolt 3 ports DO support USB-C.
www.cnet.com/how-to/usb-type-c-thunderbolt-3-one-cable-to-connect-them-all/Interesting stuff - thanks for sharing! Are all USB-C's Thunderbolt? I will do like USB-C over all prior versions. for ease of use if nothing else...being reversible is great. And, the connector seems a lot sturdier than micro-b's Mark So this article pknaz posted listing non-Apple devices using Thunderbolt 3 is what? Wrong? or by proprietary do mean “licensed”. Intel promotes it so what are you saying is the relationship is between Intel and Thunderbolt and Apple? Are other vendors paying a fee to Apple? www.ultrabookreview.com/10579-laptops-thunderbolt-3Edit: This quote from Wikipedia seems pertinent: “Thunderbolt 3 was introduced in late 2015, with several motherboard manufacturers and OEM laptop manufacturers including Thunderbolt 3 with their products. Gigabyte and MSI, large computer component manufacturers, enter the market for the first time with Thunderbolt 3 compatible components.[65][66] Dell was the first to include Thunderbolt 3 ports in laptops with their XPS Series and their Dell Alienware range.[67] Although Thunderbolt has had poor hardware support outside of Apple devices and has been relegated to a niche gadget port, the adoption of the Thunderbolt 3 using USB-C connector standard into a wide array of hardware bodes well for market acceptance of the standard.”en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface)
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Post by enricoclaudio on Nov 29, 2018 10:22:26 GMT -5
Thunderbolt is a proprietary Apple interface - which happens to use the same connector as USB-C and be able to coexist with it. The cables are also interchangeable.
Thunderbolt requires an Apple-proprietary hardware chip, so only Apple devices stated to have "Thunderbolt ports" support it; normal USB-C ports DO NOT support Thunderbolt. Thunderbolt 3 is designed to be compatible with USB-C; so Thunderbolt 3 ports DO support USB-C.
www.cnet.com/how-to/usb-type-c-thunderbolt-3-one-cable-to-connect-them-all/Interesting stuff - thanks for sharing! Are all USB-C's Thunderbolt? I will do like USB-C over all prior versions. for ease of use if nothing else...being reversible is great. And, the connector seems a lot sturdier than micro-b's Mark Sorry Keith, but Thunderbolt is NOT an Apple proprietary interface. Thunderbolt was developed by Intel in collaboration with Apple but it's NOT an Apple exclusive interface. My Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga X380 has Thunderbolt 3, same as my 27" iMac 5K mid 2017 and as of today, more than 100 computers in the market have Thunderbolt 3 interface. www.ultrabookreview.com/10579-laptops-thunderbolt-3/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface)
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Post by pknaz on Nov 29, 2018 11:53:58 GMT -5
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