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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 18:00:24 GMT -5
where does one obtain the pc app?
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Post by TDifEQ on Apr 21, 2019 21:26:35 GMT -5
HDfury devices removed.
Watched Jumanji (New one) DolbyVisionHDR, ATMOS: OPPO Dolby Vision 4k HDR, 422, 24p, BT2020, 12bits: no sound abnormalities. No: clicks, chirps or screeches. 01:59:00 (hrs:min:sec)
OPPO203 ---> RMC-1 ---> LG C8 77" OLED
No EDID issues.
---> = HDfury 18GHz 6ft Cbls
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Post by AudioHTIT on Apr 21, 2019 21:33:19 GMT -5
where does one obtain the pc app? It was written and supported by Chuck Elliot (RIP), I thought he had passed the code on but I was not a user and didn’t follow what happened to it. I just looked through the threads on his member page ( Chuck Elliot), but didn’t see anything, you might take another look, I could have missed it. I’m sure someone here used it, maybe they could chime in as to the fate of Chuck’s PC App.
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novisnick
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Post by novisnick on Apr 21, 2019 22:07:15 GMT -5
The XMC Remote app from the Apple App Store works on my iPhone nicely on the RMC-1. Same here but I have the app on my IPad. Didn’t Chuck Elliot build that app? Love and miss you Chuck, thinking of you on this Easter Day! ❤️ Seems I was incorrect about the IOS app. Sorry for that! Love and miss you Chuck! ❤️
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Post by krobar on Apr 22, 2019 4:31:05 GMT -5
So what is the owner summary with 1.3? DTS Good? Atmos occasional dropouts? PCM good with most devices? DSD still has switching issues?
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Post by cwt on Apr 22, 2019 5:41:36 GMT -5
So what is the owner summary with 1.3? DTS Good? Atmos occasional dropouts? PCM good with most devices? DSD still has switching issues? Non owner summary Preponderance of owners say DTS is fine . Atmos dropouts are associated with ancillary equipment when streaming [ shield/ apple tv iirc] . By disc there hasn't been any mention of atmos dropouts eg emotivalounge.proboards.com/post/988513/thread
Dsd too is linked to playback media used as these 2 separate post paraphrase vvv
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Post by brazensol on Apr 22, 2019 10:36:18 GMT -5
Seems like the new update runs anywhere from "it fixed nothing" to "it fixed just about everything!"
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Post by TDifEQ on Apr 22, 2019 11:24:40 GMT -5
Too early to judge 1.3. Need more people to provide feedback ... those that were not beta testers. For those that have issues, would like to know if you called EMO and what EMO said and what EMO is doing to help. Thx.
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Post by cwt on Apr 22, 2019 12:59:30 GMT -5
Seems like the new update runs anywhere from "it fixed nothing" to "it fixed just about everything!" I think there may be a few units in the small sample that need a trip back to Tennessee .. the discrepancies are too wide and stick out like a sore thumb I think goozoo's comment is a good barometer
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Post by bitbutcher on Apr 22, 2019 13:12:06 GMT -5
For me so far 1.3 has improved the ownership experience very much.
Seems Fixed (for my setup so far at least): ------------------------------------------ I used to have periodic noise/dropouts in DTS, occasional strange robotic buzzy ringing in the midrange for PCM that required a switch to a different bitstream and back, frustrating difficulties getting hdmi lock when turning on the unit or switching sources, periodic 1/2 second sound dropouts during ATMOS and other things I'm probably forgetting. Regarding these things I have to say so far so good. I've watch several movies and shows as well as playing some games on the switch and the xbox and I've observed no sounds issues and switching sources seems reliable. I wish the unit booted and switched sources much faster, but I'm very pleased that it now at least seems to do so reliably.
Still needs improvement: ------------------------- Switching to/from PCM/DSD bitstreams still needs some work but I understand why this was triaged behind the things that have been fixed. I have observed the thumps and pops when playing from a network source through the Oppo UDP-203 since the 1.3 update, but haven't tested actual SACD playback since updating. The biggest user experience issue that remains is the remote. Input lag when using the encoder knob was greatly improved in the 1.2 update as I recall. However, even after 1.3, when using the supplied remote operating the unit can be infuriating. As much a 60% of commands that the unit receives via the remote control simply seem to be ignored. It's not a case of line of sight failure. I can clearly see the unit flash to register the receipt of the IR signal with each button press. The UI also seems single threaded in ways that make little sense to me. For example: why can't I adjust the volume while the unit is switching sources?
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Post by SteveH on Apr 22, 2019 15:56:46 GMT -5
However, even after 1.3, when using the supplied remote operating the unit can be infuriating. As much a 60% of commands that the unit receives via the remote control simply seem to be ignored. It's not a case of line of sight failure. I can clearly see the unit flash to register the receipt of the IR signal with each button press. 60% is being very kind! Holding each remote button for an extra half-second longer than any other remote control I own seems to help. My RMC-1 standby button does flash with every remote control command I send to everything else, the RMC-1 just does not respond well to its own remote control as it should, even thought the RMC-1 standby button acknowledged the remote with a flash
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Post by rhale64 on Apr 22, 2019 16:04:07 GMT -5
Yes the remote is frustrating. But unfortunately I can't check most things after the update. I sold my multichannel amp and sent it out the day before the update. So I have to rely on you all. Is the DTS with only 5 base layer speakers problem fixed? It seams as though all the DTS other issues have been resolved. This problem meant that you would only get your overhead speakers working unless you put in the menu that you had surround backs.
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Post by brazensol on Apr 22, 2019 16:32:46 GMT -5
For me so far 1.3 has improved the ownership experience very much. Seems Fixed (for my setup so far at least): ------------------------------------------ I used to have periodic noise/dropouts in DTS, occasional strange robotic buzzy ringing in the midrange for PCM that required a switch to a different bitstream and back, frustrating difficulties getting hdmi lock when turning on the unit or switching sources, periodic 1/2 second sound dropouts during ATMOS and other things I'm probably forgetting. Regarding these things I have to say so far so good. I've watch several movies and shows as well as playing some games on the switch and the xbox and I've observed no sounds issues and switching sources seems reliable. I wish the unit booted and switched sources much faster, but I'm very pleased that it now at least seems to do so reliably. Still needs improvement: ------------------------- Switching to/from PCM/DSD bitstreams still needs some work but I understand why this was triaged behind the things that have been fixed. I have observed the thumps and pops when playing from a network source through the Oppo UDP-203 since the 1.3 update, but haven't tested actual SACD playback since updating. The biggest user experience issue that remains is the remote. Input lag when using the encoder knob was greatly improved in the 1.2 update as I recall. However, even after 1.3, when using the supplied remote operating the unit can be infuriating. As much a 60% of commands that the unit receives via the remote control simply seem to be ignored. It's not a case of line of sight failure. I can clearly see the unit flash to register the receipt of the IR signal with each button press. The UI also seems single threaded in ways that make little sense to me. For example: why can't I adjust the volume while the unit is switching sources? That is good news!
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Post by TDifEQ on Apr 22, 2019 17:25:48 GMT -5
Watched Dracula Untold 4k HDR DTS:X, 444, 24p, BT2020, 12bits: no sound abnormalities. No: clicks, chirps or screeches. 01:59:00 (hrs:min:sec)
OPPO203 ---> RMC-1 ---> LG C8 77" OLED
No EDID issues.
---> = HDfury 18GHz 6ft Cbls
P.S. OPPO settings were changed due to including Dolby Vision ... had to put OPPO settings into auto, except for "forced HDR" ... hence, reason why 422 ---> 444. Found out OPPO can take an HDR movie and convert it to Dolby Vision before it sends it to LG OLED.
My 1.3 Summary:
2 Older DTS movies work with no sound issues. 2 DTS:X movies work, except for 1 chirp ... no clicks or screeches. 2 ATMOS movies work, no sound issues.
My 1.2 History: Had to use HDfury EDID stabilizers (as EMO likes to call them) for DTS and DTS:X movies (say 5 movies). Usually found 4 to 5 clicks per DTS type movie ... very minor ... once in a while there was a chirp ... 2 chirps altogether ... wife usually jumps at that ... lol. Just before 1.3, their was a six second screech ... this only happened once ... rare, but still unacceptable. This was much better than without HDfury devices where one would get a click and chirp every 8 minutes or so. Screeches occurred more often. ATMOS was always OK in 1.2 ... however I did recall 1 chirp out of 4 ATMOS movies ... but that's it.
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Post by TDifEQ on Apr 22, 2019 17:44:42 GMT -5
Remote still sluggish when doing level testing.
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Post by cwt on Apr 23, 2019 5:36:37 GMT -5
Remote still sluggish when doing level testing. Not sure if the current metal remote is at all like the previous ones that had so so directivity and not too strong ir levels . emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/15511Is the RMC1 more responsive with a Harmony? A bit more salient for me and a lot more I suspect ;thanks
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Post by goozoo on Apr 23, 2019 7:22:44 GMT -5
My remote only will work when pointed directly at the unit. No amount of Front IR or Front IR blaster combination switching in off works at all. Setting levels is infuriating should I need to recalibrate (at 80dB) for reference measurements. Menu system is sluggish at best. The unit seems to be more responsive to the Harmony remote for basic functions than its’ own.
Honestly, these are all unacceptable problems and need to be resolved. The next firmware release needs to include : - No ATMOS dropouts streaming or otherwise -No DSD thumps -No remote issues ....WITH ITS’ OWN REMOTE AT THE VERY LEAST!! -A responsive menu that is usable
In the long run, I think the conventional remote and menu system are dead (except for basic functions) for this unit and future processors. The team needs to come up with a viable VNC interface and stop punishing users when they have to make changes to the system.
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Post by ttocs on Apr 23, 2019 8:48:48 GMT -5
My remote only will work when pointed directly at the unit. No amount of Front IR or Front IR blaster combination switching in off works at all. Setting levels is infuriating should I need to recalibrate (at 80dB) for reference measurements. Menu system is sluggish at best. The unit seems to be more responsive to the Harmony remote for basic functions than its’ own. Just as an FYI, the batteries don't last long when diagnosing issues and menu diving. When everything is operating normal they last about 10-12 months, but using the menu A LOT eats the batteries up. I replace mine when I experience the directional issue you mention, that's the first indicator for me, the next level is being only about 3% responsive. I buy the two packs at the home store or supermarket. The menu system on the XMC-1 is now responsive again with the last firmware update from yesterday.
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Post by TDifEQ on Apr 23, 2019 12:10:36 GMT -5
Remote still sluggish when doing level testing. Not sure if the current metal remote is at all like the previous ones that had so so directivity and not too strong ir levels . emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/15511Is the RMC1 more responsive with a Harmony? A bit more salient for me and a lot more I suspect ;thanks While playing a movie, the remote seems more sluggish than when not playing a movie ... still sluggish when doing level testing no matter what. Did notice in 1.3 that EMO has placed a red "Please Wait ..." sign on the screen during some of the sluggish leveling moments. I like that. Looks professional! lol. For months, some level and size memory locations (mostly for Heights speakers) were not saved for some reason. Levels had to be tested for and changed upon power up every time. Today, the system has finally settled down and the levels are consistent. Why? After levels are changed and a backup is done, a restore settings is done ... don't wait now until the next day to find out the levels were not saved and do a restore. Multiple owners have reported some settings being losted. Much thx for the backup and restore feature! Let you know if replacing batteries help.
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Post by Delco on Apr 23, 2019 12:31:12 GMT -5
Remote still sluggish when doing level testing. Not sure if the current metal remote is at all like the previous ones that had so so directivity and not too strong ir levels . emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/15511Is the RMC1 more responsive with a Harmony? A bit more salient for me and a lot more I suspect ;thanks I use a Harmony remote and for the daily use functions it is very responsive. I don't notice any delay. Going into the menu functions are responsive too, there is lag when you go to set speaker levels, but that is due to the menu application not the remote.
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