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Post by hsamwel on Oct 23, 2019 15:52:22 GMT -5
1.6 is still a Beta and not an official release. 1.7 should be the next release. Fine! So when will 1,7 be released? In the near future (within 2-3 weeks) or still unknown date? Note I’m not asking for an exact date..
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Post by Hair Nick on Oct 23, 2019 16:10:15 GMT -5
1.6 is still a Beta and not an official release. 1.7 should be the next release. Fine! So when will 1,7 be released? In the near future (within 2-3 weeks) or still unknown date? Note I’m not asking for an exact date.. I don't have that information. Our beta group is testing the latest firmware and has given us great feedback through each revision. We are currently testing the latest build internally which we got yesterday, if things look good then we open it up to the beta team for further testing.
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Post by lrobertson on Oct 23, 2019 17:07:08 GMT -5
1.6 is still a Beta and not an official release. 1.7 should be the next release. Fine! So when will 1,7 be released? In the near future (within 2-3 weeks) or still unknown date? Note I’m not asking for an exact date.. The new podcast says next week.
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Post by maconi on Oct 23, 2019 17:37:58 GMT -5
Update on my issue. It looks like the problem was that the RMC-1 was stuck on sending a 480i signal to my TV, hence why nothing ever displayed. Even though the front panel displayed various resolutions, my TV claims that it was sending 480i in reality. To confirm this, I grabbed a 1080p monitor and connected it to the RMC instead of the TV. For some reason, the monitor said "Out of Range" and I was unable to extract any more info than that (the menu wouldn't display to tell me what signal was being pushed to the monitor). Also the laptop started referring to the display as the Emotiva XMC-1 rather than the connected monitor (Asus) or RMC. When I reconnected the RMC to my TV... it magically worked. I have no idea why connecting a different display reset the RMC's signal when I've did a factory reset on it multiple times, and have even reflashed the firmware, but it did. So, for the time being, I'm back up and running finally. Does the support team read this thread or should I be submitting all this somewhere for official testing/documentation?
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Post by Geronimo on Oct 23, 2019 18:55:30 GMT -5
Update on my issue. It looks like the problem was that the RMC-1 was stuck on sending a 480i signal to my TV, hence why nothing ever displayed. Even though the front panel displayed various resolutions, my TV claims that it was sending 480i in reality. To confirm this, I grabbed a 1080p monitor and connected it to the RMC instead of the TV. For some reason, the monitor said "Out of Range" and I was unable to extract any more info than that (the menu wouldn't display to tell me what signal was being pushed to the monitor). Also the laptop started referring to the display as the Emotiva XMC-1 rather than the connected monitor (Asus) or RMC. When I reconnected the RMC to my TV... it magically worked. I have no idea why connecting a different display reset the RMC's signal when I've did a factory reset on it multiple times, and have even reflashed the firmware, but it did. So, for the time being, I'm back up and running finally. Does the support team read this thread or should I be submitting all this somewhere for official testing/documentation? Call them, and report it.
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Post by maconi on Oct 23, 2019 23:11:19 GMT -5
Scratch that. Looks like it was a fluke. I can only randomly get the laptop to work through the RMC (4k res, 30hz). The blu-ray player and PS4 still won't work through the RMC. They all work fine when connected directly to the TV or the monitor. At this point I'll still seek a replacement and hope it works better.
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Post by cwt on Oct 23, 2019 23:37:27 GMT -5
When I reconnected the RMC to my TV... it magically worked. I have no idea why connecting a different display reset the RMC's signal when I've did a factory reset on it multiple times, and have even reflashed the firmware, but it did. That's something better hd pvr's do down under ; you can choose auto [ the box reads the edid required and upscales to its resolution] or native when it doesn't upscale and leaves that to your possibly better sink to do .. [that takes longer to switch channels though but it takes a cheap upscaling ic out of the loop ] You may have just reset the edid with the 1080p monitor ? hence the "check the signal of the external device" message . Glad its sorted ; it must have been a worry - hdmi is fantastic edit scratch all that just read what happened
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Post by maconi on Oct 24, 2019 1:31:40 GMT -5
Hrm, someone on another site made me realize something. My PS4 Pro and Panasonic DP-UB820 both have HDMI 2.0, but I believe the laptop is just HDMI 1.4b. The fact that only the laptop works through the RMC at the moment means that for some reason the RMC-1 only wants to accept HDMI 1.4b devices even though it's set to 2.0.
I just tried forcing HDMI 1.4 on the RMC and both the PS4 and Blu-Ray work (although you lose HDR and are limited to 30hz and/or 1080p). Why can't the RMC process the 2.0 signal even though I'm clearly using a capable TV/device/cable?
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Post by mick on Oct 24, 2019 2:18:55 GMT -5
It looks like there is going to be a lot of RMC B stock, i hope there not thinking about re-selling them as new at some point.
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Post by steffen on Oct 24, 2019 2:19:21 GMT -5
295/5000 Check with the RMC-1 times, if this has the ARC return channel open and make the hook out, try the TV set HDMI input without ARC. That was the problem for me. If yes, then take all devices from the network, pull out the cable, change connections and turn on the RMC to all again.
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Post by TDifEQ on Oct 24, 2019 8:47:22 GMT -5
Hrm, someone on another site made me realize something. My PS4 Pro and Panasonic DP-UB820 both have HDMI 2.0, but I believe the laptop is just HDMI 1.4b. The fact that only the laptop works through the RMC at the moment means that for some reason the RMC-1 only wants to accept HDMI 1.4b devices even though it's set to 2.0. I just tried forcing HDMI 1.4 on the RMC and both the PS4 and Blu-Ray work (although you lose HDR and are limited to 30hz and/or 1080p). Why can't the RMC process the 2.0 signal even though I'm clearly using a capable TV/device/cable? 1. Config: Need to know your system config. that first caused the problem. It should include ALL devices connected to RMC-1, cables/rating/length, and source material video and sound format and up/mixer. Something like this: Config:
(disc)OPPO203/Main_V/A_Out ---> Input1/RMC-1 RMC-1/Out1 --->---> Input2/JVC600 Projector RMC-1/Out2 ---> Input1/LG_C8_77"_OLED Source:4K Dolby Vision Ready Player One Disc movie: 2160p/24 12bits Dolby Vision, DD True HD/ATMOS Cables:---> = HDfury 18Mbps 6ft Cable --->---> = Tributary 18Mbps 33ft Fiber Cable 2. Wipe EDID History from both RMC-1 Outputs:To get HDMI 2.0 working again, looks like RMC-1 outputs need to be wiped clean of any EDID history. Factory reset will not do this. Turning off/on the RMC-1's power switch in the back of the unit will not do this. First thing to do is to set up a simple 2.0 config with just one 2.0 display and one 2.0 source device. When using just 1 display, use RMC-1 Output 2 ... the one with ARC. Then do a Full Cold Hard Reset: "Full Cold Hard Reset (from Lonnie): a. Unplug all devices from AC power for 10 seconds: unplug from AC power all sink (e.g. display) and source (e.g. blu ray players) devices that are part of RMC/XMC’s video signal path. Then b. Reconnect wall (AC) power to all sink and source devices and (while NOT powering up any devices) let the devices communicate amongst each other for 2 minutes. Yes, devices can communicate to each other while in standby power mode (off). Then c. Power up only RMC/XMC ... do not power up other sink and source devices ... wait until RMC/XMC is fully powered up. Then d. Power up sink and source devices." 3. If this does not work, then:If this does not wipe out the RMC-1's EDID history and get you back up and running, then connect the monitor to the other RMC-1 output and do another Full Cold Hard Reset. With the 2 Full Cold Hard Resets, this will force the RMC-1 to remember (history) a 2.0 config on both RMC-1 outputs and avoid the "lowest EDID denominator" issue that is preventing a 2.0 config to work ... yes, this implies the Full Cold Hard Reset may not wipe out the RMC-1 Output EDID history ... so what one is doing is forcing the RMC-1 to remember a 2.0 config on both ports. Then place the display back on the original RMC-1 output port (where it is suppose to be). If this works, then it's the RMC-1's "splitter" output design that helped caused the issue ... lowest common denominator EDID between RMC-1's Output 1 and Output 2 is being passed back to the source device ... in this case HDMI 1.4 is overriding HDMI2.0.
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Post by dimora on Oct 24, 2019 8:53:11 GMT -5
RMC-1 Bug ** I did have an issue with my RMC-1 not picking up DD 5.1 from my Apple TV 4K. It would show PCM2.0 and I was getting L/R channels, but no center info. It was actually kinda neat because I was watching the baseball game last night via ATT Now app and I could hear everything but the commentators so I guess some may consider this a benefit of the RMC lol. It was both on the ATT Now App and Itunes movies. I had to do a hard power off on the RMC-1 for it to work correctly again. I've had the exact same thing happen with AppleTV. I saw a previous post from either Lonnie or Keith about an AppleTV issue that Apple knows about that impacts not just Emo's processors...perhaps Apple is working on that. Kind of like Oppo...those have some known issues too. I would love to see a 1-pager from Emo on all known issues (and work-arounds) on these units..perhaps as a sticky in a locked thread like the firmware thread? It's hard to find stuff again in 400+ pages of posts with meandering topics all related to the RMC-1 (and now 1L)
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Post by dimora on Oct 24, 2019 9:22:39 GMT -5
I have a quick question for Lonnie or Keith...or anyone who is an expert on HD-Base-T and Emotiva's "HDMI 4K 18 Gbps HDBaseT Signal Extender" as it relates to the RMC-1 - and about HDMI cables for use with RMC-1 vs HD-Base-T in general. The bottom line is I am in the final stages of wiring an epic home theater build at my house with the FULL 16 channels of awesomeness and the RMC-1 as the centerpiece of my system and I want to *try* to be future proof. My projector is currently a 1080P Epson Powerlite Pro Cinema 4030 - but I will likely want to upgrade my projector to 4K in the future. I will run a blue conduit corrugated tube so that I *could* run a new cable in the future without tearing out drywall, but with what is known today...here is my plan: If I want to be as state of the art as I can on the RMC-1 to projector connection, what cables should I run? I already bought the aforementioned HD-Base-T extender - and I'll be running some CAT-6 from the RMC to the projector - so HDBaseT is covered :-) . For HDMI cables - I also bought a pair of: Emotiva HDMI cables (e-connect series IWI_HDMI 10 meter - emotiva.com/products/iwhdmi?variant=15382991110187 ) And a pair of "Blue Rigger" HDMI cables: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004GW25WY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1Would you guys run one Emo, one Blue rigger (that way I have two brands in case there is a problem with one) and the HD-base-T on CAT-6 or would you look into this new fiber-optic cable I just read about in another thread in lieu of either the Emo or Blue Rigger choice? I must say I don't understand how the "fiber optic" thing works on an HDMI cable that is usually copper. Here is a fiber - optic cable: www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=13700Thoughts?
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Post by deewan on Oct 24, 2019 9:38:25 GMT -5
Would you guys run one Emo, one Blue rigger (that way I have two brands in case there is a problem with one) and the HD-base-T on CAT-6 or would you look into this new fiber-optic cable I just read about in another thread in lieu of either the Emo or Blue Rigger choice? I must say I don't understand how the "fiber optic" thing works on an HDMI cable that is usually copper. Here is a fiber - optic cable: www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=13700Thoughts? I have a fiber hdmi cable I use from the processor hdmi output #1 to input #1 on the projector. I have a standard copper hdmi certified cable that could be connected to hdmi input 2 on the projector and any source device or processor output. It's my backup in case anything goes wrong or I need to do a quick test. I also have CAT6 network cable run. Last but not least, I have a pull string in case I ever need to yank one of the cables out and replaced it with another kind/brand.
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Post by dimora on Oct 24, 2019 9:40:57 GMT -5
I have a fiber hdmi cable I use from the processor hdmi output #1 to input #1 on the projector. I have a standard copper hdmi certified cable that could be connected to hdmi input 2 on the projector and any source device or processor output. It's my backup in case anything goes wrong or I need to do a quick test. I also have CAT6 network cable run. Last but not least, I have a pull string in case I ever need to yank one of the cables out and replaced it with another kind/brand. That's very helpful; it looks like we are thinking alike. Anyone using that Monoprice fiber cable I posted - or is there another brand I should buy instead if I'm going to go 1 fiber 1 copper and the CAT-6? Edit: Best I can tell, fiber does not support ARC. HD-BaseT definitely does NOT support ARC.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 24, 2019 10:56:48 GMT -5
RMC-1 Bug ** I did have an issue with my RMC-1 not picking up DD 5.1 from my Apple TV 4K. It would show PCM2.0 and I was getting L/R channels, but no center info. It was actually kinda neat because I was watching the baseball game last night via ATT Now app and I could hear everything but the commentators so I guess some may consider this a benefit of the RMC lol. It was both on the ATT Now App and Itunes movies. I had to do a hard power off on the RMC-1 for it to work correctly again. I've had the exact same thing happen with AppleTV. I saw a previous post from either Lonnie or Keith about an AppleTV issue that Apple knows about that impacts not just Emo's processors...perhaps Apple is working on that. Kind of like Oppo...those have some known issues too. I would love to see a 1-pager from Emo on all known issues (and work-arounds) on these units..perhaps as a sticky in a locked thread like the firmware thread? It's hard to find stuff again in 400+ pages of posts with meandering topics all related to the RMC-1 (and now 1L) For me the “missing center channel” where it shows PCM 2.0, is the most annoying and frequent, and one that also affects my wife who is less adept at finding the mode up / down command to fix it. I thought this problem wasn’t restricted to just Apple TV’s, but I could be wrong? The post Lonnie made regarding the “redirected center channel”, where the center shows up in an height location, is an Apple TV problem and not restricted to Emotiva. I haven’t experienced this yet, but maybe they’re related? I think deewan’s issues thread is probably our best bet to keep problems in one place, but you’re right, without a lock discussion will start there and make it useless. If he was willing maybe the mods would give him exclusive rights to update that thread.
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Post by TDifEQ on Oct 24, 2019 12:20:56 GMT -5
Update on my issue. It looks like the problem was that the RMC-1 was stuck on sending a 480i signal to my TV, hence why nothing ever displayed. Even though the front panel displayed various resolutions, my TV claims that it was sending 480i in reality. EMO: Now we have 2 owners that have experienced this. Ran into this issue as well, but in a different config. Had 2 displays (one TV active and one Projector in standby) connected to RMC-1 outputs 1 and 2. The RMC-1 was acting like a "Super Sink" controlling the source device rather than passing the EDID info from the active display back to the source device. In my case, the RMC-1 was stuck in "1080p/60 12bits YCbCr SDR" and could not get 4K Dolby Vision/ATMOS from the active (DV) display. Traced the issue to the RMC-1 Splitter's "lowest common denominator" design and my JVC600 projector (in standby) was controlling the EDID. That's the reason for the request to give 3 choices to RMC-1 owners for RMC-1 Output. RMC-1 only supports option 3 below: 1. Send Display EDID connected to Output 1 to source device; 2. Send Display EDID connected to Output 2 to source device; 3. Send "Lowest Common Denominator" of both Displays connected to RMC-1 Output 1 and 2 to Source Device ... in order to have a picture on both displays simultaneously.
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Post by goozoo on Oct 24, 2019 12:25:01 GMT -5
I have a quick question for Lonnie or Keith...or anyone who is an expert on HD-Base-T and Emotiva's "HDMI 4K 18 Gbps HDBaseT Signal Extender" as it relates to the RMC-1 - and about HDMI cables for use with RMC-1 vs HD-Base-T in general. The bottom line is I am in the final stages of wiring an epic home theater build at my house with the FULL 16 channels of awesomeness and the RMC-1 as the centerpiece of my system and I want to *try* to be future proof. My projector is currently a 1080P Epson Powerlite Pro Cinema 4030 - but I will likely want to upgrade my projector to 4K in the future. I will run a blue conduit corrugated tube so that I *could* run a new cable in the future without tearing out drywall, but with what is known today...here is my plan: If I want to be as state of the art as I can on the RMC-1 to projector connection, what cables should I run? I already bought the aforementioned HD-Base-T extender - and I'll be running some CAT-6 from the RMC to the projector - so HDBaseT is covered :-) . For HDMI cables - I also bought a pair of: Emotiva HDMI cables (e-connect series IWI_HDMI 10 meter - emotiva.com/products/iwhdmi?variant=15382991110187 ) And a pair of "Blue Rigger" HDMI cables: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004GW25WY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1Would you guys run one Emo, one Blue rigger (that way I have two brands in case there is a problem with one) and the HD-base-T on CAT-6 or would you look into this new fiber-optic cable I just read about in another thread in lieu of either the Emo or Blue Rigger choice? I must say I don't understand how the "fiber optic" thing works on an HDMI cable that is usually copper. Here is a fiber - optic cable: www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=13700Thoughts? For runs over 15 feet (10 feet in our book) we use fiber only. If you understand how fiber works and it’s reliability it is your best option. HDBaseT is really being used today where the equipment is in a different room as most people will run wire in the walls into the equipment rack at the back of the room. Also bear in mind that the kind of HDBaseT that you use determines what video signal you will be able to pass through as it has to be compressed to transport the distance. So think HDR and DolbyVision and how you will send that signal through. This is all solved with fiber optic for up to 300 feet reliably. To then run a conventional HDMI cable as a backup makes no sense. You could run an additional fiber optic from a different brand as the backup and would be in much better shape. As you are also building for the future, bear in mind that 8K is on the very near horizon (1-2 years) as is HDMI 2.1. So you will be replacing cables regardless. Along the same lines, you may also want to look at running a smurf tube for your speaker runs in case any of the wiring goes bad as well as additional wiring for electrical outlets (behind the drywall for now) in case you ever decide to up the game and go for active speakers. PM me if you have more questions on the construction/ integration. Hopefully FW 1.7 will also resolve all the remaining issues with the RMC1 so you will actually be enjoying your theater instead of what other owners have been dealing with.
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Post by cwt on Oct 24, 2019 12:52:32 GMT -5
Anyone using that Monoprice fiber cable I posted - or is there another brand I should buy instead if I'm going to go 1 fiber 1 copper and the CAT-6? You cant have enough bandwidth for UHD at high frame rates dimora and that equates to optical fibre . Posted about this brand elsewhere but these have bandwidth + as they use light ie emi/rf has no effect As light is one way only you are spot on about no E-ARC with fibre[their copper is just for edids/power etc] . There is always a chance that a projector with hd baset may turn up in the future like this but with better contrast.. www.ambertech.com.au/zu506-with-hdbasetSo depending on your need for E-ARC its a factor in your cable type www.essenceelectrostatic.com/product/fibbr-tech-hdmi-v2-0-ultra-pro-fiber-optic-cables-v2/
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Post by inchrist on Oct 24, 2019 12:54:15 GMT -5
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