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Post by PaulBe on Nov 21, 2019 14:47:15 GMT -5
Had problems playing movies yesterday. Switched from an ATMOS movie to a DTS:X movie. No sound. switched back and forth between inputs. No sound. Then a very loud buzz from system for about 5-10 seconds. Then I turned off all sources and turned back on. Did a couple of other things. Don't remember the sequence. I was more concerned about blowing up amps and speakers. Movie finally played with normal sound. I also got this loud buzz with my XMC-2 it was very concerning that it was going to ruin my speakers or AMPS. It happened twice (once when the show was paused so no sound coming from the cable box) so I ended up hitting the switch on the back of the XMC-2. I got it when just watching TV in Dolby digital. Sounded like an emergency Alarm scared the crap out of my husband also. Was hoping it was a fluke but concerning others had this happen as well. Thanks for confirmation. I think...lol. Perhaps there will be a fix for it. This kind of error could cause a lot of damage.
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Post by wilburthegoose on Nov 21, 2019 14:56:58 GMT -5
FYI - spotted over on avsforums:
Received news from Arcam, it seems the new AVR10-20-30-40 will be sold without Dirac at launch.
Dirac won't be ready until Jan-Feb 2020.
I asked if it was only the BM part, but it seems Dirac is not ready, and we are talking about the whole software.
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Post by Hair Nick on Nov 21, 2019 15:32:15 GMT -5
Just a heads up for anyone that didn't see: Hi kids, We're working on improving the HDMI switching times. The issue is DSD. We have to pause to make sure there is no DSD stream coming in. This takes a few seconds to confirm. We're going to add an option on the input set up page to tell the inputs if DSD is going to be accessed on a given input. There is a reason behind everything; we don't so it to make you unhappy. We want fast switching, but we also don't want terrible noises and misidentified streams. This change will result in a 3-4 second switching time improvement on non DSD enabled inputs. Look for it in 1.8. Cheers, Big Dan
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Post by PaulBe on Nov 21, 2019 15:49:25 GMT -5
Just a heads up for anyone that didn't see: Hi kids, We're working on improving the HDMI switching times. The issue is DSD. We have to pause to make sure there is no DSD stream coming in. This takes a few seconds to confirm. We're going to add an option on the input set up page to tell the inputs if DSD is going to be accessed on a given input. There is a reason behind everything; we don't so it to make you unhappy. We want fast switching, but we also don't want terrible noises and misidentified streams. This change will result in a 3-4 second switching time improvement on non DSD enabled inputs. Look for it in 1.8. Cheers, Big Dan 3-4 seconds is a big improvement. Thanks.
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Post by richb on Nov 21, 2019 15:57:35 GMT -5
Just a heads up for anyone that didn't see: 3-4 seconds is a big improvement. Thanks. The LG C9 is already fairly quick at about 5 seconds. The change makes sense. Only my Oppo and USB input could ever deliver DSD. - Rich
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Post by andersmi on Nov 21, 2019 15:58:46 GMT -5
Just a heads up for anyone that didn't see: Hi kids, We're working on improving the HDMI switching times. The issue is DSD. We have to pause to make sure there is no DSD stream coming in. This takes a few seconds to confirm. We're going to add an option on the input set up page to tell the inputs if DSD is going to be accessed on a given input. There is a reason behind everything; we don't so it to make you unhappy. We want fast switching, but we also don't want terrible noises and misidentified streams. This change will result in a 3-4 second switching time improvement on non DSD enabled inputs. Look for it in 1.8. Cheers, Big Dan Hi Dan Thanks for taking the time to write in here. The biggest problem isn't the HDMI switching time. It's the HDMI syncing, after I updated to 1.7 I got signal after 20 reboots where I tried different startup procedures, tried the same approach again without luck. I have downgraded to 1.5 again now I can get it to sync again but it's still not very good. I need to boot the RMC and JVC X35 projector at the same time or else it doesn't sync. If I need to leave the room and turn off the projector and boot it up without turning the RMC off it also can´t sync. I don´t have this problem with any other receiver or device. This will need to be resolved before Dirac is released, if Dirac is released I and can´t get the to HDMI sync, it will be unusable and I will have to return it because the 30 day return policy will be activated, then I can´t wait for you to maybe solve the issue. Thanks
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Post by MonsieurAl on Nov 21, 2019 16:12:12 GMT -5
Hello "Grandpa" trying to communicate is a little late, the damage is done! 1.8, 1.9, 1.10 I do not change firmware because I do not want to explode my speaker, what changes is the processor.
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Post by TDifEQ on Nov 21, 2019 17:05:43 GMT -5
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Post by LCSeminole on Nov 21, 2019 18:02:13 GMT -5
Hello "Grandpa" trying to communicate is a little late, the damage is done! 1.8, 1.9, 1.10 I do not change firmware because I do not want to explode my speaker, what changes is the processor. I take it from your signature that says, “RMC-1 It’s over for me” that you are moving on to a different processor ? If that’s the case, do come back and give us a review of your new processor once you’ve had plenty of time with it.
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Post by audiovideojunky on Nov 21, 2019 18:25:04 GMT -5
Hello "Grandpa" trying to communicate is a little late, the damage is done! 1.8, 1.9, 1.10 I do not change firmware because I do not want to explode my speaker, what changes is the processor. Personally, I really appreciate Emotiva explaining why HDMI switching is slow, and for doing what it takes to fix the issue; a sentiment I'm certain is shared by the vast majority of folks on this forum.
If you are getting rid of your RMC-1, please move on and spare the lounge of your negativity.
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Post by MonsieurAl on Nov 21, 2019 18:45:35 GMT -5
Hello "Grandpa" trying to communicate is a little late, the damage is done! 1.8, 1.9, 1.10 I do not change firmware because I do not want to explode my speaker, what changes is the processor. Personally, I really appreciate Emotiva explaining why HDMI switching is slow, and for doing what it takes to fix the issue; a sentiment I'm certain is shared by the vast majority of folks on this forum.
If you are getting rid of your RMC-1, please move on and spare the lounge of your negativity.
You are part of what still believes in Santa Claus
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Post by MonsieurAl on Nov 21, 2019 18:50:01 GMT -5
Personally, I really appreciate Emotiva explaining why HDMI switching is slow, and for doing what it takes to fix the issue; a sentiment I'm certain is shared by the vast majority of folks on this forum.
If you are getting rid of your RMC-1, please move on and spare the lounge of your negativity.
You are part of what still believes in Santa Claus I own a RMC1, I have the right to give my opinion positive or negative
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Post by audiovideojunky on Nov 21, 2019 19:22:20 GMT -5
You are part of what still believes in Santa Claus I own a RMC1, I have the right to give my opinion positive or negative I'm actually thoroughly enjoying my RMC - It still has a few minor quirks, but overall it works fairly reliably and sounds FANTASTIC. I bought the unit knowing the firmware was a work in progress, and in my opinion Emotiva has made good forward progress. Perfect, no. Fast, no. But I believe they will get there. So yep, I guess I do believe in Santa Claus.
And I actually appreciate folks on this forum discussing problems with the RMC - It's what makes this forum worthwhile. However, your posts have gotten more and more negative recently, to a point where they aren't constructive and do not add value. I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking it's time for you to move on.
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Post by MonsieurAl on Nov 21, 2019 19:34:42 GMT -5
I own a RMC1, I have the right to give my opinion positive or negative I'm actually thoroughly enjoying my RMC - It still has a few minor quirks, but overall it works fairly reliably and sounds FANTASTIC. I bought the unit knowing the firmware was a work in progress, and in my opinion Emotiva has made good forward progress. Perfect, no. Fast, no. But I believe they will get there. So yep, I guess I do believe in Santa Claus.
And I actually appreciate folks on this forum discussing problems with the RMC - It's what makes this forum worthwhile. However, your posts have gotten more and more negative recently, to a point where they aren't constructive and do not add value. I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking it's time for you to move on.
Seeing your 13 message on the wire, it must not be long that you have aquit to rmc-1 me too early I was very enthusiastic, but after 6 months of waiting for a new firmware, and finally the latest firmware create even more problems than 1.5 you will have doubted Emotiva's ability to evolve rmc-1 to Dirac BM, DTS: X pro, eArc, Auro 3D and all that is new technology that Big Dan has promised us. I am also believed! but given the problems of rmc-1 after 1 year operation I do not believe it anymore. I had an xmc-1 I lost 3 years of 3D sound because of the promises of Emotiva to create an upgrade for xmc-1! I would not make the same mistake twice. Emotiva is very good material, but it has a deplorable comunication policy, and I say that the rmc-1 to a big problem of internal design is why I'm going to get rid of it before it become unsellable. and finally I do not think my comments are as bad as that, otherwise I will not have as many thumbs! Sorry to be honest, to say what is thinking about reacting Emotiva Staff because many think like me. This is my French side
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Post by audiovideojunky on Nov 21, 2019 19:47:37 GMT -5
Seeing your 13 message on the wire, it must not be long that you have aquit to rmc-1 me too early I was very enthusiastic, but after 6 months of waiting for a new firmware, and finally the latest firmware create even more problems than 1.5 you will have doubted Emotiva's ability to evolve rmc-1 to Dirac BM, DTS: X pro, eArc, Auro 3D and all that is new technology that Big Dan has promised us. I am also believed! but given the problems of rmc-1 after 1 year operation I do not believe it anymore. I had an xmc-1 I lost 3 years of 3D sound because of the promises of Emotiva to create an upgrade for xmc-1! I would not make the same mistake twice. Emotiva is very good material, but it has a deplorable comunication policy, and I say that the rmc-1 to a big problem of internal design is why I'm going to get rid of it before it become unsellable. and finally I do not think my comments are as bad as that, otherwise I will not have as many thumbs! Sorry to be honest, to say what is thinking about reacting Emotiva Staff because many think like me. This is my French side I actually purchased my RMC at around 12:30 am the first day the first batch went on sale, so I'm probably one of the earliest owners. Anyway, I didn't intend to pick a fight and won't engage on this topic any further. And I do wish the best to you in your endeavor to find the perfect processor.
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Post by MonsieurAl on Nov 21, 2019 19:55:36 GMT -5
Now if the Emotiva Staff can promise us that in 6 months we will have a stable unit, with Dirac, Dirac BM and DTS: X pro with "wides" channels that work with DTS to do true 9.1.6 / 4 then yes I keep it with great pleasure.
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Post by klinemj on Nov 21, 2019 21:26:02 GMT -5
Now if the Emotiva Staff can promise us that in 6 months we will have a stable unit, with Dirac, Dirac BM and DTS: X pro with "wides" channels that work with DTS to do true 9.1.6 / 4 then yes I keep it with great pleasure. Given history, I can pretty much guarantee they will no longer promise timing on anything. I'm not saying that to be negative toward Emotiva. That's just the way it is. They learned lessons in the past about promising timing - especially on things for which timing depends on others' deliverables (which is the case with Dirac right now, for example). If you don't like that, then you really should just return it and move on to something else. Mark
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Post by maconi on Nov 21, 2019 22:57:31 GMT -5
I don't even need any of the fancy features. I just need 5.2.4 ATMOS with Dirac from a stable processor (consistent HDMI switching/signal locking). I was hoping the RMC-1 would give me that, but the fact that I can't get stable video OR audio from it (even with the help of a $400 HDFury Vertex 2) after months of troubleshooting/firmware updates is why I'm returning it. At this point I'm not confident they'll have the bugs ironed out by the time Dirac releases and the 30-day return policy kicks in and I don't feel like fighting with the RMC-1 over the holidays (my wife/guests would rather just use TV audio than spend 30 minutes fighting the RMC-1 every time they turn it on/play a movie). If it was just myself, and I had more time/money to throw at it, I would stick with it a bit longer.
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Post by cwt on Nov 22, 2019 1:23:12 GMT -5
The biggest problem isn't the HDMI switching time. It's the HDMI syncing, after I updated to 1.7 I got signal after 20 reboots where I tried different startup procedures, tried the same approach again without luck. I have downgraded to 1.5 again now I can get it to sync again but it's still not very good. I need to boot the RMC and JVC X35 projector at the same time or else it doesn't sync. If I need to leave the room and turn off the projector and boot it up without turning the RMC off it also can´t sync. I don´t have this problem with any other receiver or device. This will need to be resolved before Dirac is released, if Dirac is released I and can´t get the to HDMI sync, it will be unusable and I will have to return it because the 30 day return policy will be activated, then I can´t wait for you to maybe solve the issue. You know ;thinking laterally ; taking this dsd recognition step out of most of your inputs may firm up locking on for hdmi edid syncs ;)It cant hurt and look forward to yours and owners 1.8 thoughts.. Shame the lpcm version of the AKM dac's wasnt chosen instead of the dsd version ; a simpler circuit path in hindsight possibly.Though everyone likes pure dsd bitstream these days
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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 22, 2019 10:32:12 GMT -5
One alternative to the issue of changing test tone levels with different Firmware revisions, is to use an external source, like a test disk. Unfortunately many disks don’t have levels for height speakers, and of course the disks typically aren’t free. I’ve mentioned before using Dolby’s setup tones, they come in flavors matched for your layout: 5.1.2, 7.1.4, 9.1.6 etc (they only have a few choices). You then set your RMC/XMC’s test tones to Off/External and play the file from one of your sources, I copy the file to to a flash drive and play it from my Oppo 203. One difference is that you’re playing a track and get a fixed amount of time for the tone to play on each speaker, maybe a couple minutes each, so you may have to play a section over, or wait through the end of that channel. Unfortunately the page I downloaded mine from has disappeared, and I don’t think it’s been replaced, but I did get a link from AVS to a macOS app that will let you download these files. I was told there are problems with the Windows version, and this one has given me some grief, but I have been able to download some files (they’re too big to post). Anyway if you have a Mac and want to try an external source for speaker level setup, here’s a link to the Dolby App, I’ll keep looking for other sources (if anyone knows a way non Mac users can still get the files, please post it). download.dolby.com/us/en/test-tones/DolbyTestToneAndTrailerDownloader.dmgHere’s what the app looks like:
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