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Post by boomzilla on Dec 18, 2018 2:44:56 GMT -5
boomzilla Klipsch never or rarely uses commodity drivers, correct? Founded in 1946 so that is a TON of intellectual property. In recent times, Klipsch is big enough to make ALL their own drivers, so far as I know. "Uncle Paul" Klipsch's designs (regarding the Heritage Series) have stood the test of time. The Klipschorn remains, to the best of my knowledge, the lowest-distortion speaker available at any price (with the possible exception of the $600,000 Magico all-horn system). Now many are sensitive to and bothered by the horn colorations. But no other design provides the high sensitivity, strong dynamics, and low distortion of horns. You pays your money, you takes your choice... A neighbor has a pair of La Scalas for $900...
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Post by Loop 7 on Dec 18, 2018 3:07:42 GMT -5
In college, I house sat for a family who had a pair of Heresy speakers with a warm, gooey tube amp. I remember the sound being completely captivating.
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Post by teaman on Dec 18, 2018 3:35:07 GMT -5
I hear he has the KLF-C7 center to match too!
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Post by cwmcobra on Dec 18, 2018 7:39:32 GMT -5
Had KLF-20s and a KLF-C7 in my first home theater. I loved them and was convinced that the C7 was what made the system. I auditioned nearly the entire Klipsch line and found the KLFs with the C7 the sweet spot for home theater.
I'll add that a pair of La Scalas for $900 is also a steal, assuming they are in decent condition. You have lots of options!
Happy listening!
Chuck
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Post by ttocs on Dec 20, 2018 23:09:44 GMT -5
The Klipschorn remains, to the best of my knowledge, the lowest-distortion speaker available at any price (with the possible exception of the $600,000 Magico all-horn system). Now many are sensitive to and bothered by the horn colorations. But no other design provides the high sensitivity, strong dynamics, and low distortion of horns. You pays your money, you takes your choice... Back in the 1970's my cousin had a pair of Klipschorns powered by McIntosh, and a fun light organ as well. His house was only slightly larger than the Klipschorns. Many hours of bliss listening to Santana and Stan Getz on his system, and even some raunchy humor from the likes of Gene Tracy: truck driver turned comedian!
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Post by leonski on Dec 21, 2018 18:45:24 GMT -5
boomzilla Klipsch never or rarely uses commodity drivers, correct? Founded in 1946 so that is a TON of intellectual property. In recent times, Klipsch is big enough to make ALL their own drivers, so far as I know. "Uncle Paul" Klipsch's designs (regarding the Heritage Series) have stood the test of time. The Klipschorn remains, to the best of my knowledge, the lowest-distortion speaker available at any price (with the possible exception of the $600,000 Magico all-horn system). Now many are sensitive to and bothered by the horn colorations. But no other design provides the high sensitivity, strong dynamics, and low distortion of horns. You pays your money, you takes your choice... A neighbor has a pair of La Scalas for $900... I think you might be surpised at the quality of Field Coil speakers. Permanent magnets in drivers replaced by electro magnets. More to it than that, but you get the general idea. Since 2011, Klipsch has been part of Voxx International. the works.
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Post by pdaddy on Dec 31, 2019 6:13:51 GMT -5
I haven’t heard the 600’s but i did own the 160’s and they are FANTASTIC speaker. Very smooth sound. Not the “harsh” sound Klipsch is associated with all the time. I just got a pair and only listened for a couple of hours. I really like what I hear so far.
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Post by pedrocols on Jan 1, 2020 21:49:17 GMT -5
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Post by boomzilla on Jan 3, 2020 16:58:40 GMT -5
The trick to getting the best from the 600s, IMHO, is putting them on stands such that the WOOFER is at ear level - not the tweeter. A +2dB boost @ 42Hz doesn’t hurt either...
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Post by brookalypse on Feb 2, 2020 3:04:52 GMT -5
They are very good for the price. But they are a little bit colored and have a sound signature which becomes apparent after a while. Everything is easy to listen to on them. They are not bright or harsh, bass is ok but not super tight. They are entertaining but not ultra life like or accurate.
I found the Def Tech D9s far superior. My Wharefdale Jades are also more high res and soundstage and image better.
Great all rounder and easy to reccomend to a beginner audiophile or average joe who just wants a nice sounding system.
Matches well with Yamaha AVRs and of course the A300 and PT100 (like every speaker I've tried)
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Post by boomzilla on Feb 2, 2020 10:26:13 GMT -5
Although I've not heard the DefTechs or the Wharfdales, I feel obligated to reiterate that the vast majority of Klipsch RP600m users will never hear them at their best. Most users place the speakers on stands such that the tweeters are either at or below ear level. In such a position, the lobing of the drivers at the crossover point makes the speakers sound "a little bit colored." Thus the plethora of internet "mod your RP600 crossover" articles. IMHO, the crossover doesn't NEED modification. The speakers sound great as designed IF placed properly. So what IS the best placement? The most critical parameter is the speaker height. If you get the RP600m speakers up high enough that the woofer is at ear level, and the tweeter slightly above, then the crossover issues disappear. Used at proper height, both the resolution and the imaging improve by an order of magnitude, and the speakers provide that "music is in the room with you" experience that the best speakers can. Now this doesn't address the speakers lack of bass response. I've found two ways to get around that: 1. Add a shelving boost of 2dB at 42 Hz. Although this doesn't make the speakers full-range by any means, it flattens the apparent room response to a far more satisfying bass output without interfering with the midrange clarity. Don't get too enthusiastic with the boost! More than 2dB does NOT work better, and degrades the midrange audibly. 2. Use bass management at about 80 Hz. (or even 100) and pair the RP600m with a subwoofer or few. This does several good things - with true bass, the speaker sounds far more balanced without the bass range to contend with, the midrange and crossover region sounds sweeter and more articulate without the bass range to contend with, the R/L amplifiers are less stressed REMEMBER to disable the 2dB bump at 42 Hz. if you're using subs! I did try running the RP600m speakers full range & just blending in the subs below. It was the worst of all worlds - The combo just didn't work for me. YMMV So IMHO, the little RP600m speakers can punch well beyond their price range given a bit of room tuning via equalization or use of subwoofers. I haven't heard anything else in their price range that can do as well, but as brookalypse says, I haven't heard too many other small speakers for comparison. Boom
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