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Post by DavidR on Apr 21, 2019 20:48:30 GMT -5
OK, I will be combining my two audio systems as soon as I complete the restoration on my AR9 speakers. I want to use the 9s as fronts and my 901_II as rears for my HT. I don't, at this point want to got to a processor. I will want to be able to vary the volume separtely for each pair of speakers. Each pair of speakers will be driven by an SA-250.
Is there any issue(s) using the analog audio outputs from my Samsung TV (the source) and adding splitter cables to each RCA cable and going to two separate Pre-amps? Each pre will be hooked to different SA-250 amp. Is there a better way to do this other than a processor.
I'd rather ask a stupid question and not guess that all will be OK.
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Post by 405x5 on Apr 22, 2019 9:05:58 GMT -5
OK, I will be combining my two audio systems as soon as I complete the restoration on my AR9 speakers. I want to use the 9s as fronts and my 901_II as rears for my HT. I don't, at this point want to got to a processor. I will want to be able to vary the volume separtely for each pair of speakers. Each pair of speakers will be driven by an SA-250.
Is there any issue(s) using the analog audio outputs from my Samsung TV (the source) and adding splitter cables to each RCA cable and going to two separate Pre-amps? Each pre will be hooked to different SA-250 amp. Is there a better way to do this other than a processor.
I'd rather ask a stupid question and not guess that all will be OK.
Hi David, Need more information about your listening goals. Without AV processor decoding, there are no rear channels in the conventional sense. Two preamps? Bill
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Post by DavidR on Apr 22, 2019 10:09:26 GMT -5
405x5 Hi Bill, I realize I will have the same signal for both sets of speakers. All I want to do is be able vary the volume for each set of speakers independently. If I use the same Pre I can't do that.
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Post by jlafrenz on Apr 22, 2019 10:59:58 GMT -5
What are you trying to accomplish with the system other than 2 different volume controls? Will each of the speakers be used for a different purpose? Some processors will let you adjust volume levels on the fly for various channels, but this is typically just a trim level so it may not give you the adjustment you need.
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Post by 405x5 on Apr 22, 2019 11:15:43 GMT -5
405x5 Hi Bill, I realize I will have the same signal for both sets of speakers. All I want to do is be able vary the volume for each set of speakers independently. If I use the same Pre I can't do that. You are a fan of vintage gear David. If you could grab a vintage quad Phase 4000, You’d be in fat city! Bill
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Post by vcautokid on Apr 22, 2019 11:33:40 GMT -5
Another thought though it will involve an AVR or Processer, why not run zone one, stereo pair, and zone 2 the other stereo pair. Also does the TV have an Optical output. Would be way cleaner than the analog out from the TV the more I think about it.
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Post by jlafrenz on Apr 22, 2019 12:54:54 GMT -5
Another thought though it will involve an AVR or Processer, why not run zone one, stereo pair, and zone 2 the other stereo pair. Also does the TV have an Optical output. Would be way cleaner than the analog out from the TV the more I think about it. I am guessing the OP planned on using Analog as it is easily split. Of course an optical splitter is an option. Not all AVR processors will support digital Zone 2 either. Of course you know all this already Vince. Just my observations for this situation.
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Post by DavidR on Apr 22, 2019 14:00:38 GMT -5
Another thought though it will involve an AVR or Processer, why not run zone one, stereo pair, and zone 2 the other stereo pair. Also does the TV have an Optical output. Would be way cleaner than the analog out from the TV the more I think about it. Not sure. It may but I'd probably get a bigger and new TV.
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Post by DavidR on Apr 22, 2019 14:03:34 GMT -5
So is there an issue with doing what I suggest? Not sure if the splitter to 2 pre-amps will affect the signal or whatever.
Trying to keep it simple.
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Post by DavidR on Apr 22, 2019 14:09:55 GMT -5
You are a fan of vintage gear David. If you could grab a vintage quad Phase 4000, You’d be in fat city! Bill Not a big fan of Carver amps. The MXR150 I gave to my son is a nice piece of gear and I recapped the power supply and tone controls. The C-1 and Tuners work - TSW.
Big fan of AR speakers and always liked my 901_II especially since recapping the EQ with some good components that let the signal thru. The old crap Bose used would not pass the higher signals well. They do well with 'rumble' in HT. They don't have the detail of my ARs but still sound good overall.
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Post by jlafrenz on Apr 22, 2019 14:10:51 GMT -5
So is there an issue with doing what I suggest? Not sure if the splitter to 2 pre-amps will affect the signal or whatever. Trying to keep it simple. You can split an analog signal and shouldn't have an issue. What everyone is trying to do is figure out what the end goal is as there may be a better solution.
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Post by vcautokid on Apr 22, 2019 14:17:59 GMT -5
Another more obscure way is an audio mixer. Gad. Okay Control room outs for one pair, and Aux output for the second pair. How crazy can this get? Stay tuned!
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Post by DavidR on Apr 22, 2019 14:31:35 GMT -5
So is there an issue with doing what I suggest? Not sure if the splitter to 2 pre-amps will affect the signal or whatever. Trying to keep it simple. You can split an analog signal and shouldn't have an issue. What everyone is trying to do is figure out what the end goal is as there may be a better solution. Simply just be able to vary the volume between the 2 sets of speakers. With one Pre I have no control of what comes out of each pair of speakers. Also, if I use an XSP-1 I could see what it is like to have the 901s do just low frequency. Its all about controlling the volume each pair of speakers independent of the other.
If I had XLR output and Inputs on all the gear then I could use a Behringer audio controller.
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Post by 405x5 on Apr 22, 2019 15:26:37 GMT -5
405x5 Hi Bill, I realize I will have the same signal for both sets of speakers. All I want to do is be able vary the volume for each set of speakers independently. If I use the same Pre I can't do that. That’s why I mentioned the 4000. It’s a quadraphonic preamp, not an amplifier. Complete, independent control of volume, bass and treble of FOUR speakers in stereo. That cool 😎 Joystick 🕹 in the middle. Bill
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Post by SteveH on Apr 22, 2019 15:29:34 GMT -5
Make yourself a box to house multiple Russound volume controls. Use one Russound volume control for each pair of speakers. The only issue is having to manual adjust the volumes.
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Post by Gary Cook on Apr 22, 2019 16:15:19 GMT -5
It’s pretty simple actually, you just need one cheap analogue stereo volume control (attenuator box). Use the headphones output from the TV, split it, one direct to the front amplifier and the other to rear amplifier via the attenuator box. The TV controls the overall volume and hence the volume of the front pair. The attenuator box can then lower the rear volume as required. Of course you can wire it in reverse and have the attenuator box for the front pair. Is that enough info? Or do you need a more detailed description? Cheers Gary
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Post by DavidR on Apr 22, 2019 18:28:22 GMT -5
That's a good option Gary but if I can do what I want all I'll need is the splitters.
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