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Post by novisnick on Jun 1, 2019 20:31:20 GMT -5
It was me...lol In Canada it is the real invoice not the shipper declared amount that counts. CRA may on low value go with the declared value, but on higher $$$ amounts the invoice is the thing. So if Emo charges $2999 that is the taxable value. If the charge $2999 - $1999 trade it is $1000 taxable. If Emo declares a value that different from how much the charged/invoiced the customer, there would be problems for them shipping to Canada. CRA doesn’t like incorrect values unless they are way higher so they collect more taxes. LoL Way too many years at the Feds ... Not everything is shipped with an invoice, for example I sent a camera back to the US for warranty, there was no invoice with it when it came back just a customs declaration that it was being returned from warranty servicing at no charge. I assume Canadian Customs people are just like their Australian equivalents, overworked and underpaid and the volume of overseas imports increases daily. So they take the shortest possible route, if there is a customs declaration with no invoice then they take that as it would take them too long and too much effort to do anything else. I suggest you talk to Emotiva customer service, they handle this sort of stuff everyday. There are lots of alternatives including no invoice with goods, a pro forma invoice showing the net value after trade in etc. In Australia I could also claim the GST back when I shipped the XMC-1 back to the US (no customs duty we have a free trade agreement with the US) but the paperwork is a nightmare. I'll most likely take a holiday for a couple of weeks in the US, declare the XMC-1 on the way out as being taken for servicing, then bring "it" back. No freight, no GST which covers my airfare and I get a holiday bonus (I haven't been to Nashville yet). Cheers Gary I recently returned a custom switch box to Canada and was told to declare zero value and that it was a return for repair. SIDE STORY; Long story about its trip but I wish I had the frequent travel miles from it! Lets just say that the second time it go to Canada, it stuck! LOL
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Post by wizardofoz on Jun 1, 2019 22:23:27 GMT -5
I have a trip to the states coming up in July that’s why I want to know when I can do this trade in.
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Post by novisnick on Jun 1, 2019 23:11:00 GMT -5
I have a trip to the states coming up in July that’s why I want to know when I can do this trade in. Call in advance and see what Big Dan a& Co. can do for you! 😁🎶🎶🎶 Good luck! 🤞
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Post by Bonzo on Jun 12, 2019 12:18:59 GMT -5
Its the one and only way to get surround processing into modern units that no longer have such things. I like to listen to live recording CDs with settings like "stadium" turned on so it sounds like I'm at the venue. I can run my CD player into my old Denon receiver via toslink, let the Denon do "stadium" processing, then send the 7.1 analog outs to my Marantz processor. I realize most audiophiles don't like sound processing devices, but I really REALLY don't care. Audiophiles have no clue or interest in getting the live show vibe. They would rather have a dead soundboard recording. I couldn't disagree more. I want the live "being there" vibe. But the XMC-2 is missing more than that. I've posted a list several times. Its very much more and less at the same time. I just find it annoying that its never more is more with new tech. Its almost always 5 steps forward and 2 steps back. So...if a modern processor used only HDMI inputs but had a stadium setting - that would meet your needs, right? I always wondered why you wanted the 7.1 inputs. Seems like a software solution would also meet your need. Mark I learned of another use for 7.1 inputs last night. A friend of mine recently purchased a new Parasound 2.1 channel pre-amp, and a Outlaw surround processor. He's all about vinyl and keeping the entire path in the analog domain. But he also needs a sub because his main speakers don't dig deep. So what he has done is run it exactly the opposite as you might do with an Emotiva XSP-1. Instead of the pre-amp coming after the processor in the chain, and using the HT bypass feature, he instead puts the pre-amp in front of the processor, and connects its analog outputs to the 2.1 inputs of the 7.1 analog inputs on the processor. Simple. So another reason why I say "the more inputs the better," because regardless of how you use them, it always helps making different types of connections possible.
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Post by klinemj on Jun 12, 2019 12:26:24 GMT -5
So...if a modern processor used only HDMI inputs but had a stadium setting - that would meet your needs, right? I always wondered why you wanted the 7.1 inputs. Seems like a software solution would also meet your need. Mark I learned of another use for 7.1 inputs last night. A friend of mine recently purchased a new Parasound 2.1 channel pre-amp, and a Outlaw surround processor. He's all about vinyl and keeping the entire path in the analog domain. But he also needs a sub because his main speakers don't dig deep. So what he has done is run it exactly the opposite as you might do with an Emotiva XSP-1. Instead of the pre-amp coming after the processor in the chain, and using the HT bypass feature, he instead puts the pre-amp in front of the processor, and connects its analog outputs to the 2.1 inputs of the 7.1 analog inputs on the processor. Simple. So another reason why I say "the more inputs the better," because regardless of how you use them, it always helps making different types of connections possible. But, he can do the same thing without the 7.1 inputs and without the preamp using my approach... Mark
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Post by Bonzo on Jun 12, 2019 12:35:41 GMT -5
I learned of another use for 7.1 inputs last night. A friend of mine recently purchased a new Parasound 2.1 channel pre-amp, and a Outlaw surround processor. He's all about vinyl and keeping the entire path in the analog domain. But he also needs a sub because his main speakers don't dig deep. So what he has done is run it exactly the opposite as you might do with an Emotiva XSP-1. Instead of the pre-amp coming after the processor in the chain, and using the HT bypass feature, he instead puts the pre-amp in front of the processor, and connects its analog outputs to the 2.1 inputs of the 7.1 analog inputs on the processor. Simple. So another reason why I say "the more inputs the better," because regardless of how you use them, it always helps making different types of connections possible. But, he can do the same thing without the 7.1 inputs and without the preamp using my approach... Mark Yes, I told him about your approach, BUT, I'm not sure if his sub has the proper input capabilities. Unfortunately subs are a bit like processors, it depends on who is making their model as to what hook up options they want to put on the back. For example, I find it odd that my HSU doesn't have XLR inputs. But it does have the stereo 2 channel RCA inputs, so I could do what you do I think. My point is that there are uses for 7.1 inputs beyond the obvious, and it allows for more flexibility. I would prefer an old XMC-1 with Atmos than an XMC-2. Plain and simple. JMO of course, and I know its not shared by quite a few.
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Post by klinemj on Jun 12, 2019 13:46:13 GMT -5
But, he can do the same thing without the 7.1 inputs and without the preamp using my approach... Mark Yes, I told him about your approach, BUT, I'm not sure if his sub has the proper input capabilities. Unfortunately subs are a bit like processors, it depends on who is making their model as to what hook up options they want to put on the back. For example, I find it odd that my HSU doesn't have XLR inputs. But it does have the stereo 2 channel RCA inputs, so I could do what you do I think. My point is that there are uses for 7.1 inputs beyond the obvious, and it allows for more flexibility. I would prefer an old XMC-1 with Atmos than an XMC-2. Plain and simple. JMO of course, and I know its not shared by quite a few. he can check his sub out...it might have the right stuff. If so, it's a great solution (and saves needing a lot of gear). Mark
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Post by Gary Cook on Jun 12, 2019 15:59:24 GMT -5
Whether it made a difference or not it would play on my mind that having 2 pre amps running unbalanced for my stereo music system was not giving me the cleanest signal path. Kinda defeats the purpose of having a separate stereo pre amp in the first place, the processor pre amp is the one actually driving the power amp/s. The introduction of possible noise and double the opportunity for distortion from 2 circuits would annoy the hell out of me, there might not actually be issues but I’d still hear them.
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Post by Bonzo on Jun 12, 2019 16:10:46 GMT -5
Yes, I told him about your approach, BUT, I'm not sure if his sub has the proper input capabilities. Unfortunately subs are a bit like processors, it depends on who is making their model as to what hook up options they want to put on the back. For example, I find it odd that my HSU doesn't have XLR inputs. But it does have the stereo 2 channel RCA inputs, so I could do what you do I think. My point is that there are uses for 7.1 inputs beyond the obvious, and it allows for more flexibility. I would prefer an old XMC-1 with Atmos than an XMC-2. Plain and simple. JMO of course, and I know its not shared by quite a few. he can check his sub out...it might have the right stuff. If so, it's a great solution (and saves needing a lot of gear). Mark I know you have posted it about 20 times, but can you post the link to your thread again?
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Post by klinemj on Jun 12, 2019 16:30:34 GMT -5
he can check his sub out...it might have the right stuff. If so, it's a great solution (and saves needing a lot of gear). Mark I know you have posted it about 20 times, but can you post the link to your thread again? Here you go... --->CLICK HERE<---Also, if one only has XLR's or RCA's and not both, it can still be done with some y-splitters. Mark
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Post by ttocs on Jun 12, 2019 16:43:42 GMT -5
^^^ 21
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Post by Bonzo on Jun 12, 2019 17:24:13 GMT -5
I know you have posted it about 20 times, but can you post the link to your thread again? Here you go... --->CLICK HERE<---Also, if one only has XLR's or RCA's and not both, it can still be done with some y-splitters. Mark It still depends on the sub. I would not be able to do this because my HSU only has stereo RCA inputs, no XLRs. I'll check out your link more when I get second. Thanks for posting it, again.
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Post by klinemj on Jun 12, 2019 20:34:17 GMT -5
Here you go... --->CLICK HERE<---Also, if one only has XLR's or RCA's and not both, it can still be done with some y-splitters. Mark It still depends on the sub. I would not be able to do this because my HSU only has stereo RCA inputs, no XLRs. I'll check out your link more when I get second. Thanks for posting it, again. It does depend on the sub, but it's not just whether it has both RCA and XLR's...it can be via a setting/switch. Not sure which ones are capable, but look beyond the connectors. I didn't even realize mine had the capability until someone said the magic words that helped me know to look more into my manual. Even then, the manual was not well written and it was not clear how it worked. But, I sorted it out. Mark
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Post by Bonzo on Jun 12, 2019 21:24:31 GMT -5
It still depends on the sub. I would not be able to do this because my HSU only has stereo RCA inputs, no XLRs. I'll check out your link more when I get second. Thanks for posting it, again. It does depend on the sub, but it's not just whether it has both RCA and XLR's...it can be via a setting/switch. Not sure which ones are capable, but look beyond the connectors. I didn't even realize mine had the capability until someone said the magic words that helped me know to look more into my manual. Even then, the manual was not well written and it was not clear how it worked. But, I sorted it out. Mark Just a quick glance at the back of those Rythmyks (sp?) and I could see they offer a lot of features many more budget subs do not. I got the HSU based on bang for the buck, fantastic reviews, a great price used, and because it fit my space. If I ever actually get it hooked up (have it just sitting here almost a year now doing nothing) I'll see what I think. I'm quite certain it will fit my needs more than enough. Plan to use it mostly for the deep of the deep. My speakers already go down to around 30hz well.
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Post by ttocs on Jun 14, 2019 16:07:23 GMT -5
Any clue as to an approximate release date for this XMC-2 thingy? About when? Possibly maybe? Later this year? Sooner than later?
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Post by ttocs on Jun 26, 2019 14:43:26 GMT -5
Is the announcement of the XMC-1 to XMC-2 Trade-In program meant to be a surprise? . . . with loud noises from party favors and popping balloons? How about cake? Gotta have cake! It's the special treat after a special meal! How much time after the program is running will we have to react? I'd like to be able to plan for taking my system apart and shipping, etc. I'd say we need a timeframe of at least a month or so.
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Post by creimes on Jun 26, 2019 21:14:36 GMT -5
Is the announcement of the XMC-1 to XMC-2 Trade-In program meant to be a surprise? . . . with loud noises from party favors and popping balloons? How about cake? Gotta have cake! It's the special treat after a special meal! View AttachmentHow much time after the program is running will we have to react? I'd like to be able to plan for taking my system apart and shipping, etc. I'd say we need a timeframe of at least a month or so. Release date per latest podcast is end of July
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Post by wizardofoz on Jun 26, 2019 22:44:27 GMT -5
For the XMC-1 we got M&M’s ... cake seems like a natural next step
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Post by creimes on Jun 26, 2019 23:12:01 GMT -5
For the XMC-1 we got M&M’s ... cake seems like a natural next step I vote blue Nibs
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Post by sahmen on Jun 26, 2019 23:37:41 GMT -5
I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm more keen about getting a fully functional and bug-free XMC-2, than i am on the date of its availability at this time. My XMC-1 has been working smoothly like butter for several years now without missing a step, and I love the stability and peace of mind that brings, even if the unit is old now and lacks some latest and greatest features. I wouldn't want to swap that for another unit that will have me calling Emotiva almost every other day. Of course I am all for the upgrade, but the most pressing question for me at the moment is about when all the bugs reported on the RMC-1 thread will be worked out. I wish someone would tell me when that would happen, because I would like to bring out a few champagne glasses when that day finally arrives.
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