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Post by widespreadpanic on Jun 9, 2019 22:08:11 GMT -5
When should you add a sub to your system?
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Post by pop on Jun 9, 2019 22:19:19 GMT -5
Always, if you can
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Post by MusicHead on Jun 9, 2019 22:38:23 GMT -5
For HT definitely always, even better if you can have two.
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Post by creimes on Jun 9, 2019 22:45:50 GMT -5
When you wanna....
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Post by Gary Cook on Jun 9, 2019 23:17:03 GMT -5
I haven’t had system without a sub for 30+ years.
Cheers Gary
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Post by jdmusante on Jun 10, 2019 0:25:22 GMT -5
Immediately. For HT and 2 channel.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 10, 2019 0:35:10 GMT -5
When you want more low bass. If you want more specific answers, you should make your question more complete. Which of your systems? Which speakers? Music or HT?
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Post by vcautokid on Jun 10, 2019 1:15:33 GMT -5
Yep dual Subwoofers for the win. Single if not possible for two. But two makes tuning allot easier.
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Post by bootman on Jun 10, 2019 5:52:08 GMT -5
When should you add a sub to your system? Depends on two things. 1) For music I would ask what type of speakers do you have? If full range (extension down to 40 Hz or lower) then you might get away with no sub depending on the music you listen to. If not then yes. 2) For HT, yes. Very few speakers can gracefully handle by themselves what is on the LFE channel.
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Post by mgbpuff on Jun 10, 2019 7:15:50 GMT -5
June 10, 2019
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Post by 405x5 on Jun 10, 2019 7:29:16 GMT -5
When should you add a sub to your system? What have you got now and what are you trying to accomplish?
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Post by davidl81 on Jun 10, 2019 9:07:19 GMT -5
Yep dual Subwoofers for the win. Single if not possible for two. But two makes tuning allot easier. And just to add, if cost is a factor two lower cost subs is almost always better than one higher priced sub, at least from an entire room quality sounds. With two subs you will have very few dead or hot spots in the room. A single sub will tend to have really bass heavy spots in a room, and really dead zones in a room. I have two PSA subs and I think the gain may be at 25% or so, I could have easily gotten away with much smaller subs.
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Post by pedrocols on Jun 10, 2019 9:18:34 GMT -5
Get at least two. Thank me later.
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Post by pop on Jun 10, 2019 9:27:55 GMT -5
Taking the stress off of your speakers low end with a subwoofer will always make the mids and highs sound cleaner. Do an AB side to side.
I listened to a 60k pair of Sony’s Fabres at Sumiko training facility in Berkeley. We then added a $800 subwoofer and came back and listened to the same tracks. It was astonishing how much better the speakers sounded! No tricks, no gimmicks, simply adding a subwoofer in the right location. You be your own judge, but that was enough for me
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Post by pop on Jun 10, 2019 9:28:55 GMT -5
Get at least two. Thank me later. Truth, if I ever get a dedicated theater room again I’ll have 4 at a minimum
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Post by DYohn on Jun 10, 2019 9:29:49 GMT -5
IMO any system can benefit from a subwoofer.
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Post by pop on Jun 10, 2019 9:32:45 GMT -5
One thing I have learned. It’s important to get a subwoofer (or two or more) that can cover your room at about half output. When you only need to utilize about half of max output your subwoofer will sound much more clean and avoid introducing any distortion. I have a PSA XV3600 (big mama) in a 20x24 open living room. To get sufficient rib squeezing bass I only need a little over half of the max output. It sounds so damn good and impossible to tell what is making the bass.
In short you want to take attention away from the subwoofer. It should appear as nothing more than a box. Mine sounds as though my In ceiling ML Vanquish are producing the bass. It’s a fantastic experience
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Post by repeetavx on Jun 10, 2019 13:12:26 GMT -5
When should you add a sub woofer to your system?
Whenever your dissatisfied with the bass performance of your system. (Or decide that you actually want to add the .1 part of your surround sound experience). Here's a short section from an article from SVS Sound R/Evolution: - If you know your speaker’s frequency range, set the crossover point roughly 10 Hz above the lowest frequency your speakers can handle cleanly.
- The most common crossover frequency recommended (and the THX standard) is 80 Hz.
- The numbers below highlight general guidelines for speaker/subwoofer crossover frequencies
On-wall or Tiny 'satellite' speakers: 150-200 Hz. Small center, surround, bookshelf: 100-120 Hz. Mid-size center, surround, bookshelf: 80-100 Hz. Large center, surround and bookshelf: 60-80 Hz. Very large center, surround, bookshelf: 40-60 Hz. Tower speakers with 4”-6” woofers: 60 Hz. Tower speakers with 8”-10” woofers: 40 Hz or Large/Full-Band (i.e., full-range).
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Post by SteveH on Jun 10, 2019 16:36:56 GMT -5
IMO any system can benefit from a subwoofer. You are ABSOLUTELY right!! Until I upgraded my audio equipment in Nov 2018, I have had the same audio equipment since 1992 with no subwoofer. When I upgraded, I also purchased two 10" subs. I cannot believe that I went 26 years with no subwoofer, my audio system has truly come to life. Add a subwoofer or two!
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Post by Bonzo on Jun 10, 2019 16:41:56 GMT -5
I can't believe that after this 3rd thread no one knows that the OP just got himself some Maggies. So THAT is why he's wondering.
I think most people here will say that with Maggies subs are an absolute must. Although I'd say it has to do more with what kind of music you are playing, and if you are using them for HT duty. I mean if all you do is listen to light acoustic jazz, a sub isn't required.
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