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Post by badsarge on Oct 22, 2019 17:07:02 GMT -5
Greetings All, I recently traded up to a new 2019 GMC Sierra. Overall very happy and impressed with this iteration. On the way home I realized to my chagrin that there was no CD slot in the dash. I've been a Sirius/XM customer for years so no biggie, plenty of tunes on tap. After questioning the dealership staff over the next few days, I have yet to receive a logical answer to my dilemma. In a nutshell, there are two USB ports available and one micro SD card slot (presumably strictly for navigation.) Small 8 gig 2.0 flash drives function acceptably to drag some specific tunes. Larger 128 and 256 Gig drives are not recognized. I'll attempt a 64 Gig and see how that works. Anyone familiar with the limitations associated with portable media in todays new vehicles? I don't think General Motors thought this one completely through. Signed: Not Happy Streaming All the Time  |
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Post by creimes on Oct 22, 2019 17:20:29 GMT -5
I have a 2017 Silverado and my center armrest console I have a 128gb USB stick plugged in with a ton of MP3's and it works fine, I'm not sure what format is in, I can check later but your truck should recognize that size.
Chad
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Post by 3labman on Oct 22, 2019 18:16:51 GMT -5
I have a 16 Silverado. I just download music on my Tidal App and use bluetooth.
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Post by badsarge on Oct 23, 2019 16:40:57 GMT -5
Creimes and 3labman,
Thanks for the reply. I formatted the drives in XFAT and NTFS.
They are FLAC files. The tech at GMC explained that they utilize small drives to flash systems and that the drives are only effective 4 or 5 times and then must be replaced....huh?? Seems strange since some of my 10 year old drives still function.
The system in the truck did not recognize 128 or 256Gig brand new out of the box with FLAC files loaded.
I get that we are moving away from physical media but dealers not being better versed in parameters of equipment is exasperating.
Time for the anachronisms to evolve...bah humbug. Where's my 8-track?? I haven't shredded tape in eons.
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Post by creimes on Oct 23, 2019 16:46:00 GMT -5
Creimes and 3labman, Thanks for the reply. I formatted the drives in XFAT and NTFS. They are FLAC files. The tech at GMC explained that they utilize small drives to flash systems and that the drives are only effective 4 or 5 times and then must be replaced....huh?? Seems strange since some of my 10 year old drives still function. The system in the truck did not recognize 128 or 256Gig brand new out of the box with FLAC files loaded. I get that we are moving away from physical media but dealers not being better versed in parameters of equipment is exasperating. Time for the anachronisms to evolve...bah humbug. Where's my 8-track?? I haven't shredded tape in eons. I had to load the drive with MP3 files, I don't think it will read flac files. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 23, 2019 16:53:13 GMT -5
I would try just ExFAT format when you test the 64GB, NTFS is pretty specific, also try different music formats in case it doesn’t like FLAC. I’ve been frustrated by non tech-savvy dealers, but sometimes there’s one geek who knows the basics.
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Post by autiger on Oct 24, 2019 8:21:33 GMT -5
This has been my frustration also. I understand no physical media BUT Flac is a free platform. Why not include it in the software. I use a media player (Ibasso) and plug it in usb to play my flac library.
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Post by tropicallutefisk on Oct 24, 2019 8:45:43 GMT -5
My 2012 Sienna van recognizes any USB stick I use, but will only read MP3s and only MP3s ripped from CDs. FLAC files downloaded from music services and converted to MP3 do not play for some reason.
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Post by 405x5 on Oct 24, 2019 9:35:11 GMT -5
Greetings All, I recently traded up to a new 2019 GMC Sierra. Overall very happy and impressed with this iteration. On the way home I realized to my chagrin that there was no CD slot in the dash. I've been a Sirius/XM customer for years so no biggie, plenty of tunes on tap. After questioning the dealership staff over the next few days, I have yet to receive a logical answer to my dilemma. In a nutshell, there are two USB ports available and one micro SD card slot (presumably strictly for navigation.) Small 8 gig 2.0 flash drives function acceptably to drag some specific tunes. Larger 128 and 256 Gig drives are not recognized. I'll attempt a 64 Gig and see how that works. Anyone familiar with the limitations associated with portable media in todays new vehicles? I don't think General Motors thought this one completely through. Signed: Not Happy Streaming All the Time Yes....the automobile industry is embracing the death 💀 of physical, tangible media. (that sucks) I have what they called a 2017.5 Murano, because mid production year they added Apple Car Play to the list of bells and whistles. It’s nice because it “upgrades” with your phone, but still there are quirks. Now for all of that, it does have a CD player and a 10 speaker Bose sound system with a subwoofer mounted to the spare tire. The sound, for all of that is nothing to write home about during normal commuting. Oh...it sounds AWESOME, if you park the thing and play a concert....cranked (very impressive) but Nissan forgot one thing....you have to DRIVE. Bill |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 24, 2019 10:34:21 GMT -5
... I have what they called a 2017.5 Murano, because mid production year they added Apple Car Play to the list of bells and whistles. It’s nice because it “upgrades” with your phone, but still there are quirks. Now for all of that, it does have a CD player and a 10 speaker Bose sound system with a subwoofer mounted to the spare tire. The sound, for all of that is nothing to write home about during normal commuting. Oh...it sounds AWESOME, if you park the thing and play a concert....cranked (very impressive) but Nissan forgot one thing....you have to DRIVE. Bill I turned in my car with CarPlay last spring and started driving the Subaru my wife abandoned when she bought another Prius last year. I SO miss CarPlay, I find the Subaru user experience dismal, it doesn’t understand anything I say and the hierarchy is awkward, I just use Siri as much as possible but that usually means no dashboard GPS guidance. I’ve even considered looking for an aftermarket product with CarPlay, I haven’t looked at car stereo in ages, is there such a thing? |
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Post by 405x5 on Oct 24, 2019 11:38:27 GMT -5
... I have what they called a 2017.5 Murano, because mid production year they added Apple Car Play to the list of bells and whistles. It’s nice because it “upgrades” with your phone, but still there are quirks. Now for all of that, it does have a CD player and a 10 speaker Bose sound system with a subwoofer mounted to the spare tire. The sound, for all of that is nothing to write home about during normal commuting. Oh...it sounds AWESOME, if you park the thing and play a concert....cranked (very impressive) but Nissan forgot one thing....you have to DRIVE. Bill I turned in my car with CarPlay last spring and started driving the Subaru my wife abandoned when she bought another Prius last year. I SO miss CarPlay, I find the Subaru user experience dismal, it doesn’t understand anything I say and the hierarchy is awkward, I just use Siri as much as possible but that usually means no dashboard GPS guidance. I’ve even considered looking for an aftermarket product with CarPlay, I haven’t looked at car stereo in ages, is there such a thing? Remember when we were younger, drilling a hole in the dashboard was the first thing done to get some decent sound in the car. These days, I would give the drill to somebody else and stand across the street for fear of an explosion. I had a 65 Pontiac with a Pioneer Super Tuner in a removable slot (worked in the Bronx behind Fordham Road). Some of those jobs I did wouldn't get done unless an employee sat with my vehicle. (Too many cars around there on blocks with no wheels left.) The latest update from Apple for the phone works terrific with Apple in the Car for sure, (very intuitive) Bill |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 24, 2019 13:07:02 GMT -5
I turned in my car with CarPlay last spring and started driving the Subaru my wife abandoned when she bought another Prius last year. I SO miss CarPlay, I find the Subaru user experience dismal, it doesn’t understand anything I say and the hierarchy is awkward, I just use Siri as much as possible but that usually means no dashboard GPS guidance. I’ve even considered looking for an aftermarket product with CarPlay, I haven’t looked at car stereo in ages, is there such a thing? Remember when we were younger, drilling a hole in the dashboard was the first thing done to get some decent sound in the car. These days, I would give the drill to somebody else and stand across the street for fear of an explosion. I had a 65 Pontiac with a Pioneer Super Tuner in a removable slot (worked in the Bronx behind Fordham Road). Some of those jobs I did wouldn't get done unless an employee sat with my vehicle. (Too many cars around there on blocks with no wheels left.) The latest update from Apple for the phone works terrific with Apple in the Car for sure, (very intuitive) Bill My first summer job in college (1970), first paycheck I bought a Sony TC-20 to go in my hand me down '63 Volkswagon Beetle (it didn't even have a radio). It was a car cassette deck with a something like 6 clean watts per channel, which was pretty good in those days (I'm rather proud that I went straight to cassette and never messed with 8-track). I built a couple of cabinets with little Altec Lansing speakers that sat in the space behind the rear seat, in that small, air tight space that baby rocked! Edit: Ha! Found one ...  |
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Post by 405x5 on Oct 24, 2019 15:59:42 GMT -5
Remember when we were younger, drilling a hole in the dashboard was the first thing done to get some decent sound in the car. These days, I would give the drill to somebody else and stand across the street for fear of an explosion. I had a 65 Pontiac with a Pioneer Super Tuner in a removable slot (worked in the Bronx behind Fordham Road). Some of those jobs I did wouldn't get done unless an employee sat with my vehicle. (Too many cars around there on blocks with no wheels left.) The latest update from Apple for the phone works terrific with Apple in the Car for sure, (very intuitive) Bill My first summer job in college (1970), first paycheck I bought a Sony TC-20 to go in my hand me down '63 Volkswagon Beetle (it didn't even have a radio). It was a car cassette deck with a something like 6 clean watts per channel, which was pretty good in those days (I'm rather proud that I went straight to cassette and never messed with 8-track). I built a couple of cabinets with little Altec Lansing speakers that sat in the space behind the rear seat, in that small, air tight space that baby rocked! Edit: Ha! Found one ... View AttachmentI learned to drive stick in a beetle 1970. It was my brothers, and when he went away to college, it was mine to drive were I willing to pay the insurance and maintenance which I did gladly. Driving that car in a strong wind đź’¨ was like being out on the water on a rough day. I mean a crosswind on the L. I. E. would blow you clear out of your lane. Lots of fun to drive in good weather, however. The first car I actually owned was s Fiat 128, also with no radio. At that time I was a budding jazz drummer and great full to be without spoon fed bubblegum music from the airwaves. |
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Post by badsarge on Oct 24, 2019 17:11:55 GMT -5
Thumbdrive update:
Purchased a 2.0 64G drive from BestBuy on sale for $10.00
Formatted exFAT and loaded about 5G of FLAC tunes. Inserted in USB port: NO JOY
Reformatted in NTFS and loaded ABOUT 1G FLAC files: successful
Loading another 10Gigs and will retest. Crossing my fingers. version 2.0 is mighty slow!
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Post by badsarge on Oct 24, 2019 20:23:13 GMT -5
Issue resolved to a point.
64G ver 2.0 loaded with 53.3 Gigs of FLAC tunes immediately recognized and functioning.
I will test the technician's hypothesis that the drives have a short half life.
Skeptical to say the least.
I remain unimpressed that the responsibility of evaluating the system's capability fell to me.
Embracing new technology has its inherent risks.
I will purchase an additional 64G ver 3.0 and report on its performance post haste.
A hearty thank you and wishes of good health and well being to all who assisted and replied.
Steve
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 24, 2019 20:36:27 GMT -5
Issue resolved to a point. 64G ver 2.0 loaded with 53.3 Gigs of FLAC tunes immediately recognized and functioning. I will test the technician's hypothesis that the drives have a short half life. Skeptical to say the least. I remain unimpressed that the responsibility of evaluating the system's capability fell to me. Embracing new technology has its inherent risks. I will purchase an additional 64G ver 3.0 and report on its performance post haste. A hearty thank you and wishes of good health and well being to all who assisted and replied. Steve Glad to hear it's working. I agree with you about the half life issue, I doubt you'll have that problem, but tech's and mechanics who might not treat the drives the same way, and leave them in shop environments could have more problems. |
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Post by geeqner on Oct 25, 2019 22:58:44 GMT -5
Issue resolved to a point. 64G ver 2.0 loaded with 53.3 Gigs of FLAC tunes immediately recognized and functioning. I will test the technician's hypothesis that the drives have a short half life. Skeptical to say the least. I remain unimpressed that the responsibility of evaluating the system's capability fell to me. Embracing new technology has its inherent risks. I will purchase an additional 64G ver 3.0 and report on its performance post haste. A hearty thank you and wishes of good health and well being to all who assisted and replied. Steve But did you RTFM? |
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Post by badsarge on Oct 27, 2019 8:28:45 GMT -5
Uh..RTFM, Read the #$@^ manual?
LOL, yes it referred to the CD player "if equipped" frequently.
But I'm afraid there is a dearth of information concerning thumb drives or removable storage media.
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Post by geeqner on Oct 27, 2019 9:40:01 GMT -5
I’m surprised - GM generally does a pretty good job on their manuals. I’m surprised that they didn’t provide more details about file types and size limitations. My guess is that the system PREFERS MP3 files / has less limitations with them.
Even with Aftermarket Head-Units for car audio, it seems that their ability to handle FLAC is “hit or miss”
One of my job roles is Tech Support, so at least you got my little quip about RTFM. ;-P
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 27, 2019 15:24:04 GMT -5
So this thread got me thinking about getting an aftermarket audio system with CarPlay. I looked at the Best Buy site and they have some from Kenwood, Pioneer, and Sony from about $300 — $600. So I called my local BB and asked about installation in my Subaru, well since we have the upgraded Harmon Kardon system with steering wheel controls, and integrated backup camera (which we’d want to keep), installation alone would be $500–$600 because they’d have bypass the HK (except speakers), yet keep all the functionality. I’m still considering it as I really hate the HK/Subaru system (functionality, audio’s fine); funny though, the ads for those more expensive CarPlay units say “Free Installation!”
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