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Post by Lonnie on Oct 14, 2009 12:14:42 GMT -5
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Post by Pauly on Oct 14, 2009 13:21:53 GMT -5
Pretty good review. They always seem to tell it like it is. He pretty much had the same great comments I had about the ERC after hearing it for the first time. Great job Emo!
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Post by gocolts on Oct 14, 2009 13:41:10 GMT -5
I'm still waiting for Stereophile or one of those "$500 cable are worth it" magazines to put together a killer Emotiva-only 2 channel setup and review it. Or, at least plug the ERC-1 into a review with some high-end Rega or Cambridge exambles, and do a comparison. The only internet-only company they seem to think exists is Oppo.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2009 15:41:27 GMT -5
;D great review. I want to get mine autographed . . ;D |
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Post by LCSeminole on Oct 14, 2009 16:33:25 GMT -5
This article, along with the forum review by "krellian" only strengthens that urge I've had since EmoFest to anty up for an ERC-1 & a USP-1. Shame on you Emotiva for enticing me like that!!! ;D
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Post by jannick on Oct 14, 2009 16:40:03 GMT -5
Nice review, but can't help notice that Emotiva is once again an advertiser on the site. Maybe this is the way of the business, but would be nice with some more transparency around this.
Hope the plans to spin the dac sections into a standalone product is moving forward ;D
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Post by SticknStones on Oct 14, 2009 18:00:04 GMT -5
Thanks for posting the link and it was a nice writeup for sure!
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Post by portlandia on Oct 14, 2009 20:26:00 GMT -5
Nice review, but can't help notice that Emotiva is once again an advertiser on the site. Maybe this is the way of the business, but would be nice with some more transparency around this. Hope the plans to spin the dac sections into a standalone product is moving forward ;D As the Affordable$$Audio reviewer for the ERC-1 I would like to make a few things clear. First, Affordable$$Audio is an all-volunteer effort. The e-zine was founded as a hobby in an effort to bring attention back to gear that any audio fan can buy. The advertising revenue covers the cost of the website, and incidentals. My only payment is getting to experience different audio pieces in my own home, period. Secondly, no reviewer has ever been asked, coerced, hinted at, etc. into writing a positive review. The writers at Affordable$$Audio request 95% of the gear reviewed directly from the manufacturer. The founder, and the editor-in-chief only ask that the positive or negative conclusion of the review be supported by statements based upon many hours and multiple listening sessions. If you note, at the end of the review I mentioned the "audio muting" issue. If there was collusion, that statement would never have appeared. Finally, if I wasn't saving up to upgrade my amplification section I would have bought the ERC-1. It really is a fine cdp. Regards, Dan Nielsen, A$$A |
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Post by portlandia on Oct 14, 2009 20:40:33 GMT -5
Nice review, but can't help notice that Emotiva is once again an advertiser on the site. Maybe this is the way of the business, but would be nice with some more transparency around this. Hope the plans to spin the dac sections into a standalone product is moving forward ;D And you don't see Emotiva ads in Stereophile - right? Which is why they likely won't be reviewing any of Emotiva's products. Take a look at the reviews they do - that brand will be a conspicuous advertiser in their mag. Knuckle: Stereophile, with only one or two exceptions refuses to review Internet-Direct gear. One requirement is that the manufacturer have at least 5 retail outlet dealers. Or, be able to handle large volume of sales from one of their reviews. That is the policy by John Atkinson as stated by him in a forum thread on Stereophile. Personally, that's fine by me, all the writers at Affordable$$Audio are more than happy to review the ever-increasing gear sold via ID companies like Emotiva. |
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Post by jmilton on Oct 15, 2009 6:37:38 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2009 14:31:06 GMT -5
Nice review, but can't help notice that Emotiva is once again an advertiser on the site. Maybe this is the way of the business, but would be nice with some more transparency around this. Hope the plans to spin the dac sections into a standalone product is moving forward ;D As the Affordable$$Audio reviewer for the ERC-1 I would like to make a few things clear. First, Affordable$$Audio is an all-volunteer effort. The e-zine was founded as a hobby in an effort to bring attention back to gear that any audio fan can buy. The advertising revenue covers the cost of the website, and incidentals. My only payment is getting to experience different audio pieces in my own home, period. Secondly, no reviewer has ever been asked, coerced, hinted at, etc. into writing a positive review. The writers at Affordable$$Audio request 95% of the gear reviewed directly from the manufacturer. The founder, and the editor-in-chief only ask that the positive or negative conclusion of the review be supported by statements based upon many hours and multiple listening sessions. If you note, at the end of the review I mentioned the "audio muting" issue. If there was collusion, that statement would never have appeared. Finally, if I wasn't saving up to upgrade my amplification section I would have bought the ERC-1. It really is a fine cdp. Regards, Dan Nielsen, A$$A Dan - a bellowing thanks for the above post. I appreciate you clarifying the philosophy and approach behind AA's reviews. Thanks. |
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Post by davedoubleu on Oct 29, 2009 22:18:08 GMT -5
A number of members have suggested that the major audio magazines, such as Stereophile, have ignored Emotiva because Emotiva is a very small manufacturer. But consider that many of the hyper-expensive products that Stereophile reviews have only a small number of high-end dealers. Presumably, the number of $30,000 speaker systems they sell is quite small. And if that's true, then the reason Stereophile chooses not to review Emotiva must be for some other reason. Let me guess. I think it might be because Emotiva threatens their reason for existence. If Emotiva can manufacture a very high quality, high-powered stereo amp for only $799 (XPA-2), then given the law of diminishing returns, why spend $10,000 or more? I'm not suggesting that Emotiva's amp is absolutely the 'best', but it does make one wonder why the high-end products are so much more expensive. And therein lies the threat. If Stereophile is, indeed, feeling that threat, then why would they voluntarily review an Emotiva product? They wouldn't. And that, I believe, is the real answer. If Emotiva is that good, then the hyper-expensive products might look silly by comparison. And to review the XPA-2 would really p.o. Stereophile's advertisers. So, is all the above true? I don't know, but it makes me wonder.
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Post by monkumonku on Oct 29, 2009 22:43:12 GMT -5
A number of members have suggested that the major audio magazines, such as Stereophile, have ignored Emotiva because Emotiva is a very small manufacturer. But consider that many of the hyper-expensive products that Stereophile reviews have only a small number of high-end dealers. Presumably, the number of $30,000 speaker systems they sell is quite small. And if that's true, then the reason Stereophile chooses not to review Emotiva must be for some other reason. Let me guess. I think it might be because Emotiva threatens their reason for existence. If Emotiva can manufacture a very high quality, high-powered stereo amp for only $799 (XPA-2), then given the law of diminishing returns, why spend $10,000 or more? I'm not suggesting that Emotiva's amp is absolutely the 'best', but it does make one wonder why the high-end products are so much more expensive. And therein lies the threat. If Stereophile is, indeed, feeling that threat, then why would they voluntarily review an Emotiva product? They wouldn't. And that, I believe, is the real answer. If Emotiva is that good, then the hyper-expensive products might look silly by comparison. And to review the XPA-2 would really p.o. Stereophile's advertisers. So, is all the above true? I don't know, but it makes me wonder. That makes a lot of sense to me.. why make their advertisers look stupid? Plus, I imagine the readers, the ones who own the real expensive stuff, will then cancel their subscriptions because the magazine is no longer credible. |
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Post by ryan08 on Oct 30, 2009 10:37:25 GMT -5
This review is a little on the sparce side compared to the Secrets of HT review. I do like the fact that the reviewer would buy it though.
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Post by vincedog3 on Oct 30, 2009 13:27:29 GMT -5
Hey Dann thanks for the heads up on the review of the ERC-1. I think it is high time that Stereophile should show Emotiva gear. It is nice that I could buy a 100,000 dollar turntable or a 50,000 dollar speaker, not likely, it is nice to see the state of the art, but I live also in a state reality life. Emotiva makes that life extremely comfortable too. So lets see those reviews of Emotiva Gear Stereophile. ;D
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