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Post by iketremonti8 on Dec 11, 2009 22:27:11 GMT -5
I would just like to find anyone out there that has the Emotiva 6.3 as the center channel speaker along with a different brand L/R speakers. I know there are some of you out there because I've read posts before but I can't remember who they were. Maybe there are others as well. I know the general rule is to not mismatch your front 3, but out of curiosity I'd like to know how it worked out for anyone who has done it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2009 8:00:50 GMT -5
I'm using the 6.3 with Magnepan MG12's and they work great together.
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Post by Animo on Dec 12, 2009 9:21:07 GMT -5
My main speakers are home made using a Focal tweeter and midrange, and a pair of Peerless woofers on each tower, and the ERM-6.3 sounds right at home with them.
When I first got the 6.3, it was auditioned with a pair of home made Cabasse speakers, and again, it blended together seamlessly.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2009 11:32:57 GMT -5
I would just like to find anyone out there that has the Emotiva 6.3 as the center channel speaker along with a different brand L/R speakers. I know there are some of you out there because I've read posts before but I can't remember who they were. Maybe there are others as well. I know the general rule is to not mismatch your front 3, but out of curiosity I'd like to know how it worked out for anyone who has done it. Most people around the forum know how I rave about the 6.3 speaker as a center (which I had) and as a L/C/R combination (which I never got around to). When I first hooked up my Mirage M3-si, I very much wanted the 6.3 to work with the Mirage. The short answer is that it did not give me that seamless left to right spectrum. The speakers are simply too different, and I think that's the key. That plus your own ears, room, and equipment, of course. The funny thing is, that pound for pound, the 6.3 kick the tar out of my eventual center, the Mirage MC-si as a center channel but there is something to be said for tonal matching. So, yeah, I had to take a step down (slightly) in the center channel to match the fronts better. Before I packed away the 6.3, however, I brought out my aging Polk's for a brief return to their status as mains and I used the 6.3 with these old Polk's and this combination sizzled. For about two hours I rocked the house with this combo/ It was a memorable experience, to say the least. In the end, I would say there's no doubt this center will match with non-emotiva mains but your ears will have to be the final judge.
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Post by iketremonti8 on Dec 12, 2009 13:13:42 GMT -5
Really appreciate the feedback everyone. I have some Polk Audio rTi A7 towers as my L/R and I am considering going with the 6.3 as my center. I have the small polk rTi A4 as my center and although I am happy with it, i would like it to be a little "beefier" for lack of a better word.
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Post by Animo on Dec 12, 2009 13:36:24 GMT -5
The 6.3 is indeed a "beefy" center.
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Post by RayoVac on Dec 12, 2009 15:29:23 GMT -5
Before I packed away the 6.3, however, Did you sell it? Or is it just waiting for more friends to eventually join it?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2009 0:59:35 GMT -5
Really appreciate the feedback everyone. I'm not sure if you'll appreciate my feedback, but here goes. Why don't you buy the 6.3 and two 8.3's to go along side it? You might be very surprised and realize the beauty of a 5 speaker system that is voice/timbre match all around, the ultimate in surround sound! You will almost surely prefer the 8.3's over the RTi-A7's. ;D
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Post by iketremonti8 on Dec 13, 2009 6:52:39 GMT -5
Chuckienut, I agree, that would be my ultimate goal, but ~$500 for the 6.3 vs. almost $2000 for the 6.3 + 8.3. Quite a price difference. If I had the money I'd definitely do the whole system, but right now I only really have enough to get the center. I was just trying to figure out if I would be happy with a mismatched system for a while until I could afford the 8.3 towers. I don't know if I should build it piece by piece and live with a mismatch system or just wait until I have enough money to buy the towers and the center all at the same time. What would you do? or anyone else that reads this - what would you do?
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Post by jlafrenz on Dec 13, 2009 7:11:23 GMT -5
Really appreciate the feedback everyone. I'm not sure if you'll appreciate my feedback, but here goes. Why don't you buy the 6.3 and two 8.3's to go along side it? You might be very surprised and realize the beauty of a 5 speaker system that is voice/timbre match all around, the ultimate in surround sound! You will almost surely prefer the 8.3's over the RTi-A7's. ;D Why do you continue to tell everyone that they will prefer the Emotiva speakers over whatever they already have or are looking at? Just because you enjoy them so much does not mean they are the perfect speaker for everyone. There are plenty of other speakers out there, please let others enjoy them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2009 10:40:39 GMT -5
Chuckienut, I agree, that would be my ultimate goal, but ~$500 for the 6.3 vs. almost $2000 for the 6.3 + 8.3. Quite a price difference. If I had the money I'd definitely do the whole system, but right now I only really have enough to get the center. I was just trying to figure out if I would be happy with a mismatched system for a while until I could afford the 8.3 towers. I don't know if I should build it piece by piece and live with a mismatch system or just wait until I have enough money to buy the towers and the center all at the same time. What would you do? or anyone else that reads this - what would you do? If I were you, I would just go with the center for now. If it mates well with your system, you're good to go. If not, you can always return it within 30 days.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2009 15:34:03 GMT -5
Why do you continue to tell everyone that they will prefer the Emotiva speakers over whatever they already have or are looking at? Just because you enjoy them so much does not mean they are the perfect speaker for everyone. There are plenty of other speakers out there, please let others enjoy them. He already owned two ERD-1's and was considering a 6.3 center speaker. I suggested he consider going with all 5 Emo speakers. Since you know what I continue to do you might also know I'm very big on recommending all 5 speakers be voice/timbre matched. I see you must understand since you own all Monitor Audio speakers from the same series which I presume was not by chance. Emotiva speakers are by far the best price/performance value I have ever owned. I don't recommend them to all (ask owners of Zu Druids, Maggies, Stratus Goldi's and many others) but this in fact is the Emotiva Lounge. Do you not expect many here to recommend Emotiva speakers over other brands? I think Monitor Audio speakers (as well as Emotiva) are generally superior to Polk's, should I not mention this? I'm sorry if you feel that I or others at this forum are overly enthusiastic about Emotiva products.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2009 15:36:54 GMT -5
Chuckienut, I agree, that would be my ultimate goal, but ~$500 for the 6.3 vs. almost $2000 for the 6.3 + 8.3. Quite a price difference. If I had the money I'd definitely do the whole system, but right now I only really have enough to get the center. I was just trying to figure out if I would be happy with a mismatched system for a while until I could afford the 8.3 towers. I don't know if I should build it piece by piece and live with a mismatch system or just wait until I have enough money to buy the towers and the center all at the same time. What would you do? or anyone else that reads this - what would you do? Yes, I would buy the 6.3 for your center and then the 8.3 down the road if and when you can afford it. That is what I meant to imply. ;D
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Post by jlafrenz on Dec 13, 2009 15:45:10 GMT -5
Why do you continue to tell everyone that they will prefer the Emotiva speakers over whatever they already have or are looking at? Just because you enjoy them so much does not mean they are the perfect speaker for everyone. There are plenty of other speakers out there, please let others enjoy them. He already owned two ERD-1's and was considering a 6.3 center speaker. I suggested he consider going with all 5 Emo speakers. Since you know what I continue to do you might also know I'm very big on recommending all 5 speakers be voice/timbre matched. I see you must understand since you own all Monitor Audio speakers from the same series which I presume was not by chance. Emotiva speakers are by far the best price/performance value I have ever owned. I don't recommend them to all (ask owners of Zu Druids, Maggies, Stratus Goldi's and many others) but this in fact is the Emotiva Lounge. Do you not expect many here to recommend Emotiva speakers over other brands? I think Monitor Audio speakers (as well as Emotiva) are generally superior to Polk's, should I not mention this? I'm sorry if you feel that I or others at this forum are overly enthusiastic about Emotiva products. I understand the need for matching speakers. My point is that in almost every thread you state that the Emotiva speakers are superior and that listeners will enjoy them over whatever the currently have or might purchase. You act like they are the beez neez and the cat's meow. I just don't see how you can continue to claim that they will best all the other speakers that others are interested in. You know just as well as everyone else here that it is purely subjective. Perhaps this is not how you intend to sound, but it sure is how you come off. As far as the OP, if you are so concerned with him having a matched front sound stage, why would you not recommend he purchase one that matches his current mains? Yes, I know he is looking at the 6.3, but buying new mains to add or upgrade a center channel is not worth it. It seems here that you are just trying to recommend Emotiva speakers here and not what is best for the listener. It may seem like you are trying to recommend what is best, but your posts and advice certainly contradict your intentions.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2009 16:36:23 GMT -5
I really don't have time to go back and search all my posts to prove you wrong. However, I do not recommend people replace there Polk surrounds, for example when they have an all Polk system just to get the ERD-1's. That goes for the 6.3 also. Many here in fact do these types of recommendations. If the OP had owned all Polk speakers and had asked about using the 6.3 for the center I would probably have recommended getting the matching Polk center speaker if he didn't already have it.
In this case he already had the two ERD-1's and was considering getting the 6.3. Thus he would have his three latest speakers from Emotiva. Thus the suggestion to go all the way with Emotiva. Get it?
I suggest maybe you just have a problem with me and my posts. That is fine but why not just send me a PM and I'll consider toning down my enthusiasm for Emotiva speakers. I haven't seen you attack others who are just as enthusiastic or more than I.
You state:
".........in almost every thread you state that the Emotiva speakers are superior and that listeners will enjoy them over whatever the currently have or might purchase. You act like they are the beez neez and the cat's meow. I just don't see how you can continue to claim that they will best all the other speakers that others are interested in. You know just as well as everyone else here that it is purely subjective..........."
IMO you are exaggerating here. There are many speakers that I would consider superior to Emotiva or different enough that I wouldn't think the owners would prefer the Emotivas. As I stated above I think the Emotiva speaker are a great price/performance value. This is what it is all about. Most of the speakers that I claim Emotiva to be superior to are within the 2x to 3x price ratio. That includes many of the speakers posters here ask for opinions on such as Axiom, Polk, etc.
The all subjective comment of yours only holds water for obviously similar quality and designed speakers such as Polk, Axiom, Monitor Audio, B&W, Paradigm, etc. The price difference is a significant advantage IMO. Saying that Emotiva speakers being superior to Bose for example is subjective is nonsense. Stating that Emotiva speakers are superior to certain B&W or Monitor Audio speakers, I agree, would be subjective to most people. However, if I do in fact believe the poster would find the Emotiva speakers better am I not allowed to voice that opinion here?
Anyway. I do get your objections to my posts. You've made it quite clear, thanks.
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Post by jlafrenz on Dec 13, 2009 17:22:22 GMT -5
Stating that Emotiva speakers are superior to certain B&W or Monitor Audio speakers, I agree, would be subjective to most people. However, if I do in fact believe the poster would find the Emotiva speakers better am I not allowed to voice that opinion here? Well as we all know each kind/brand of speaker has it's own distinct sound. I guess I just don't see how you can make the recommendations that you do when those asking for advice have not given any indication of what characteristics they are looking for in a speaker. I have no issues with your recommending Emotiva as they are a great company and do provide value. I understand your enthusiasm, but I think at times it overtakes the subjective approach to speakers. You have stated on more than one occasion that people will surely like the Emotiva speakers over other brands and have even gone as far as saying your guarantee it. Not possible and pure BS. I honestly think this leads people in the wrong direction since there are people out there who are here to learn and make decisions based upon what they read, not hear. By all means, recommend Emotiva speakers, but please do not make false claims. Recommend that they give them a listen so they can compare for themselves and make their own decisions. On that note, I'm done with my rant.
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Post by bigred7078 on Dec 13, 2009 17:50:29 GMT -5
chuckienut,
Judd makes a great point here. There is NOTHING wrong with recommending emotiva speakers, and there is definately nothing wrong with being enthusiastic about them. Its just doesn't end up helping anyone when you make a blinded statement like..
"You will almost surely prefer the 8.3's over the RTi-A7's"
or this from another thread
"I think you will find after quite a few hours of listening time that you will prefer the sound of the Emotivas."
I say blinded statements because neither OP gave really any sort of info about what they liked in SQ. This can be very misleading to individuals who are looking for help. One needs to qualify the individual to determine there needs, not just spout out what you like and prefer.
What if the OP's in either situation ended up hating the Emotiva speakers? Obviously that doesnt help anyone since Emotiva is out on shipping and now must mark product as B stock, and the individual is out on return shipping....
Again there is nothing wrong with making enthusiastic suggestions but as long time posters on this forum our statements DO impact what people buy. So lets just make sure what we suggest fits any OP's actual needs.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2009 21:27:53 GMT -5
bigred, "I think you will find after quite a few hours of listening time that you will prefer the sound of the Emotivas." I made that statement because I have owned Klipsch speakers and I think the sound characteristics are somewhat different from Emotiva speakers. The key words in the sentence you quoted was "after quite a few hours." I was trying to imply that at first he might find Emotiva quite different from his Klipsch and it would take some time to get used to the Emo's before he started to like them. I think you should go back and read the entire thread that you have quoted from. Notice that almost all the other posters have said right away that the Emo's would be fine, including bigred who said: "..........If your worried about if the Emotivas can get loud, dont worry they can get PLENTY loud lol. We had them just freakin cranked at the St. Louis Emotiva GTG........" to quote bigred further, "..........Its just doesn't end up helping anyone when you make a blinded statement.........." However, Chuckienut suggested he go slowly and test out only one Emo speaker so he was sure both the sound characteristics and the efficiency of the Emo's would meet his requirements before he bought the entire system. Chuckienut even said, "..........This A/B test will only cost you the return shipping on the 6.3 if you still prefer the Klipsch sound............" You might note that the poster, RayoVac stated: "..........Chuckienut... this is the exact kind of information I was looking for, dare I say "wanting to hear". I will start with a 6.3 and A/B it against my RC-7 and go from there..........." emotivalounge.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=speakers&thread=8014&page=1So who is blindly pushing Emo speakers?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2009 21:38:03 GMT -5
Guys, this pissing match is getting old.
Both have valid points here. I tend to think we can only help the OP to make a wise choice in selecting gear. We give feedback on equipment we own and have evaluated. We then should list the pros and cons of our assessment and then let the person make their own choice.
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Post by bigred7078 on Dec 13, 2009 21:57:32 GMT -5
bigred, "I think you will find after quite a few hours of listening time that you will prefer the sound of the Emotivas." I made that statement because I have owned Klipsch speakers and I think the sound characteristics are somewhat different from Emotiva speakers. The key words in the sentence you quoted was "after quite a few hours." I was trying to imply that at first he might find Emotiva quite different from his Klipsch and it would take some time to get used to the Emo's before he started to like them. I think you should go back and read the entire thread that you have quoted from. Notice that almost all the other posters have said right away that the Emo's would be fine, including bigred who said: "..........If your worried about if the Emotivas can get loud, dont worry they can get PLENTY loud lol. We had them just freakin cranked at the St. Louis Emotiva GTG........" to quote bigred further, "..........Its just doesn't end up helping anyone when you make a blinded statement.........." However, Chuckienut suggested he go slowly and test out only one Emo speaker so he was sure both the sound characteristics and the efficiency of the Emo's would meet his requirements before he bought the entire system. Chuckienut even said, "..........This A/B test will only cost you the return shipping on the 6.3 if you still prefer the Klipsch sound............" You might note that the poster, RayoVac stated: "..........Chuckienut... this is the exact kind of information I was looking for, dare I say "wanting to hear". I will start with a 6.3 and A/B it against my RC-7 and go from there..........." emotivalounge.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=speakers&thread=8014&page=1So who is blindly pushing Emo speakers? Doesnt matter how you put it Chuckienut, you are telling people they will love speakers when there is no way for you to know this. Whats it matter if you owned klipsch in the past??? Your tastes are irrelevant to someone else's. Your quote from me proves no points on anything. He asked if they got "loud" and I stated they got PLENTY loud. Others also said they got plenty loud as you noted, but... Thats QUITE different than me saying he will "prefer" them....which is exactly what you did and HAVE been doing, not just in that thread and this one, but in MANY threads. My point is you should actually attempt to find out a persons "taste" before telling them to do something. If want to argue that then by all means continue.
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