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Post by DYohn on Jan 30, 2010 11:06:25 GMT -5
As an aside, I replaced a Krell amp (3250) with an Emotiva amp (LPA-1) and while I can't say the Emotiva was "better," it was certainly not "worse" and I am happy with the swap. Plus selling the Krell paid for my new Sony 52" XBR display panel.
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Post by indyscammer on Jan 30, 2010 11:09:41 GMT -5
A funny thing on the way to the Emo online store... A quick tour of that taught me that I could get a wicked 5 channel amp for the price of the 2 used Rotels I was seeking. I then read some posts here and found rave reviews and some great helpers w/advice. The 30-day return policy iced the deal, and I bought by XPA-5. It so badly smoked the one Rotel I already had powering my fronts that I kept it and abandoned my plan for more used Rotels! The rest...as they say...is history.... I actually blame Strindl (at least I think it was Strindl) for my new found EMOdiction. I was trolling the Outlaw forum waiting for the day I could afford a 997/7125 combo when I saw him post that one of his friends actually preferred EMO stuff. "Who the heck is this EMO Co." I asked myself? Again the rest they say is history......UPA-7 is pumping right now in fact... ;D Cost versus performance is a no brainer IMHO!
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Post by Colby on Jan 30, 2010 12:54:54 GMT -5
I bought a used Krell KAV 300il a few months ago after hearing my Brother-In-Laws set up with the same amp. Was very impressed with his system which included B&W speakers. The Krell replaced a Rotel amp that I have had for years in my 2 channel system, which, by the way I was very happy with. The Krell does need some warm up time I've noticed, and after 30-45 minutes it sounds much better than when its just been turned on. At that point one could fry eggs on it, it's cookin if you're pushing the pedal on the volume. My first Emotiva purchase was the ERC-1, and I was blown away by the improvement it made in my system, especially with HD CDs. I've been thinking lately how my Krell would compare to the XPA-2 or the XPA-1s. Personally, I think the Krell needed the break-in period to give it a fair chance for the comparison. Also, from what I've read, the Krell can be a little picky about what components you pair with it. It will sound best when paired with other Krell components. So I'm thinking about selling the Krell and going with the XPA-2, or the XPA-1s. By selling the Krell I'd have enough cash from the sale to buy the XPA-2 and the USP-1. Decisions, Decisions.
If Krell would allow you a break-in period and still let you return the amp after that, why not give it a try?
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Post by RuggSkins on Jan 30, 2010 13:08:43 GMT -5
There is a mad rumour that the Jade Design had/has at one point manufactured the Amps for Krell in China. Although I'm not sure who was responsible for the Amp design. Does anyone know who Jade Design is?
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Post by kumayama on Jan 30, 2010 13:34:02 GMT -5
There is a mad rumour that the Jade Design had/has at one point manufactured the Amps for Krell in China. Although I'm not sure who was responsible for the Amp design. Does anyone know who Jade Design is? I suspect you know the answer to that question--perhaps an elder to a company you are familiar with? I don't have a clue to whether the rumor is true or not, though. For those who don't know about Jade Design and are curious, take a look here: whois.domaintools.com/emotiva.com
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Post by DYohn on Jan 30, 2010 14:42:08 GMT -5
If Krell would allow you a break-in period and still let you return the amp after that, why not give it a try? Well, solid state amplifiers do not "break in." I assure you I owned my Krell for five years and duirng that time the sound did not change.
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Post by klinemj on Jan 30, 2010 16:13:47 GMT -5
The power of word of mouth is quite amazing. Make a good product, and people talk about it. And with the internet, there's a lot of talk!
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Post by glock3540 on Jan 30, 2010 20:30:55 GMT -5
Agreed, One of the things I really like about Emotiva is this forum. At Emofest I was treated like family and the people on this forum, even if they do not agree with you, treat you with respect. Anyone that personally attacks someone's preferences or experiences about a certain product, is emotionally immature. I personally am glad they stay all huddled together in their own sandbox and not invade this forum!
I'm sure the Polk Audio owners also would love for their forum to have the respect that we show each other here, because we do not let a few people drive away potential business by acting childish. I bet the owners of Polk Audio are embarrassed to be associated with some of these folks. It is most likely just a few that have anger issues and big mouths. As an old school southerner we like people that are respectful! Sorry to rant , but this just irritates me......
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2010 20:59:43 GMT -5
Also, from what I've read, the Krell can be a little picky about what components you pair with it. It will sound best when paired with other Krell components. Must be that close knit family thing. I recommend the Emo preamp/amp combo over the Krell 300i. The Emotiva gear sounds great immediately after turning on and it mates well with products from many brands. Besides it is a whole lot more inexpensive! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2010 21:05:20 GMT -5
Here is a photo of the Krell 300i remote. Anyone here see any resemblance to their CD player's remote? ;D
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Post by ls7z06 on Jan 31, 2010 2:02:41 GMT -5
Agreed, One of the things I really like about Emotiva is this forum. At Emofest I was treated like family and the people on this forum, even if they do not agree with you, treat you with respect. Anyone that personally attacks someone's preferences or experiences about a certain product, is emotionally immature. I personally am glad they stay all huddled together in their own sandbox and not invade this forum! I'm sure the Polk Audio owners also would love for their forum to have the respect that we show each other here, because we do not let a few people drive away potential business by acting childish. I bet the owners of Polk Audio are embarrassed to be associated with some of these folks. It is most likely just a few that have anger issues and big mouths. As an old school southerner we like people that are respectful! Sorry to rant , but this just irritates me...... Totally agree. I own a lot of Polk equipment and that is why I read their forum. I learned my lesson today. I have been thrashed and trashed and on trial there all day long. I stated my opinion and my experience with this amp situation in a factual way (even though I was cautioned here first). I have been called a baiter, an inexperienced dummy, told I have crappy beginner equipment, told I was FOS, etc etc. Then they came over here and copied my posts there to try and prove something with detective work which I am still not sure what. Then I was last told to take my Emo and stick it up my you know what. That was when I got a little rude in return for the first time all day. I am really sorry I went over there and posted. I do not have any passion or obsession for Emotiva or Krell or Polk or any other brand. I just have had good luck with certain products and I sometimes share that info. I tried a more expensive product and did not like it. That's it. If you do not want to be crucified, DO NOT post anything positive about an Emotiva product there. It almost makes a guy want to sell his Polk equipment so you can be totally disassociated with the name Polk entirely.
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Post by iskandam on Jan 31, 2010 3:14:58 GMT -5
I've owned Polk speakers. They are very good bang for the buck. In fact they're what got me hooked into HT in the first place. Their forum is also a good place for information, despite the rampant Emo-hate I used to own LSi15s and LSi7s. I've powered them with the MPS-1 and XPA-5. I found the perfect synergy for LSis with MPS-1. The sound was very clear and detailed. I didn't like the sound of LSis matched with the XPA-5 until I put silver ICs into the mix. Then it got better. It was more relaxed than with the MPS-1. Less detailed, but smoother, non-fatiguing and pleasing to listen to. If your priority is strictly 2 channel then the discontinued RPA series amps might be a good alternative too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2010 3:15:17 GMT -5
ls7z06, you sure are welcome here at the Emotvia Lounge. Did you notice in your very first thread at the Lounge that Lonnie posted twice? We're talking about the head design engineer for Emotiva.
Poke is good equipment. In the 70's, I recommended one of their first bookshelf speakers to a friend in Spokane and he was extremely pleased. That there are so many immature members over at their forum is a disappointment. I think it is that for many of them Poke's are their first quality speakers. However, at that forum plus many others, some of the so-called audiophiles can't handle the fact that an upstart company like Emotiva, and other direct to buyer companies before are upsetting the traditional the more you pay the better it is theory.
There are members here who have been in this hobby for many years and realize that Emotiva is the best ever at this direct to buyer business plan. When I bought my first Emotiva product, the XPA-5 amp, I knew this was a very unique company price/performance wise while maintaining very high build quality. At another forum I used to hang out at, I was met with scorn and called a fan boy when I dared to suggest that this amp was the equal of name brand amps that sold for 3-5 times what I paid. Finally, the Emotiva name is getting a lot of respect over there, now that the word is spreading.
The Emo amps, preamps, pre-pros, CD player and connectors are becoming more widely accepted as a great buy. The product that has still not caught the interest of many IMO, even from members here, is the excellent value and performance of the Emo speakers.
Many here, including me, have strong opinions, but we try to agree and disagree in a friendly and civil manner. Poke is just one of numerous brands of quality speakers. Emotiva products are in a unique position that very few can match. ;D
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Post by DYohn on Jan 31, 2010 9:59:47 GMT -5
Agreed, One of the things I really like about Emotiva is this forum. At Emofest I was treated like family and the people on this forum, even if they do not agree with you, treat you with respect. Anyone that personally attacks someone's preferences or experiences about a certain product, is emotionally immature. I personally am glad they stay all huddled together in their own sandbox and not invade this forum! I'm sure the Polk Audio owners also would love for their forum to have the respect that we show each other here, because we do not let a few people drive away potential business by acting childish. I bet the owners of Polk Audio are embarrassed to be associated with some of these folks. It is most likely just a few that have anger issues and big mouths. As an old school southerner we like people that are respectful! Sorry to rant , but this just irritates me...... Totally agree. I own a lot of Polk equipment and that is why I read their forum. I learned my lesson today. I have been thrashed and trashed and on trial there all day long. I stated my opinion and my experience with this amp situation in a factual way (even though I was cautioned here first). I have been called a baiter, an inexperienced dummy, told I have crappy beginner equipment, told I was FOS, etc etc. Then they came over here and copied my posts there to try and prove something with detective work which I am still not sure what. Then I was last told to take my Emo and stick it up my you know what. That was when I got a little rude in return for the first time all day. I am really sorry I went over there and posted. I do not have any passion or obsession for Emotiva or Krell or Polk or any other brand. I just have had good luck with certain products and I sometimes share that info. I tried a more expensive product and did not like it. That's it. If you do not want to be crucified, DO NOT post anything positive about an Emotiva product there. It almost makes a guy want to sell his Polk equipment so you can be totally disassociated with the name Polk entirely. I am surprised the Polk corporation allows that kind of crap to continue... but since they are part of Directed I really am not surprised, as Directed's attitude is much more akin to the tone you describe above. Polk used to be one of the premier brands, but since the Directed takeover their reputation has suffered, especially in the car audio world.
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Post by broncsrule21 on Jan 31, 2010 10:17:43 GMT -5
I read and post here. I just read over there. I think that says it all. They don't treat anyone that owns or has any interest in Emotiva with any respect, so I just lurk.
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Post by LCSeminole on Jan 31, 2010 10:51:59 GMT -5
If Krell would allow you a break-in period and still let you return the amp after that, why not give it a try? Well, solid state amplifiers do not "break in." I assure you I owned my Krell for five years and duirng that time the sound did not change. I too have yet to notice a change in signature over time with solid state equipment, but that's just me.
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Post by tchaik on Jan 31, 2010 10:52:00 GMT -5
you dastardly lurker you..............
tchaik...............
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Post by broncsrule21 on Jan 31, 2010 10:54:35 GMT -5
I'm not even sure if I have changed my signature to include my Emotiva gear. Oh well.
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Post by briank on Jan 31, 2010 21:28:42 GMT -5
My first pair of "hi-fi" speakers were a pair of Polk Audio Monitor 7's I purchased in 1985. They were pretty good speakers at that time. Good enough it got me started in this hobby. Unfortunately, Polk's a different company now.
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Post by sergeantynot on Feb 1, 2010 18:35:16 GMT -5
I'm sure there are quite a few owners on the Polk forum that would never admit (in the closet) if they demo'd or even owned an Emo amp.
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