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Post by manonfire on Mar 5, 2010 15:16:49 GMT -5
i currently run hsu vtf 3.2 i was looking to go the dual route and try to get my hands on another or just purchase, i was just curious is it a good idea to mix n match subs? i emailed hsu as i was looking into getting the current vtf 2.3 to see if there were significant difference in sound and was advised by one of techs that the amp in current sub has a flatter response thant my 3.2 with that said he advised me to find same make is one i have or sell it and buy the current version. ive been looking at the Elemental A3 sub to replace then go for second down the road or would anyone suggest just adding another hsu. also if you have any suggestions for other subs it would be appreciated. i do mainly HT and i want it to hit low and hard in the chest
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Post by NorthStar on Mar 5, 2010 15:31:05 GMT -5
Me think that two subs are the best investment you can make to improve the sound in your room. This said, I truly believe two of the same subs are best. Also, I really like what Audyssey MultEQ does for my two Def. Tech. subs (punch hard in the chest and below too ). And, I think SVS makes excellent value subs. * Your actual HSU sub is an excellent one; adding another one will catapult you against the wall in your room. You won't believe it till you experience it.
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Post by topcat on Mar 5, 2010 16:19:12 GMT -5
There has been a lot a discussion on varying subs but I have seen little on the HSU VTF-3 MK 3. Does anyone else use this sub? What are the opinions from all on this sub. Thanks for listening and any responses.
Thomas
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Post by slbenz on Mar 5, 2010 16:56:04 GMT -5
Mixing subs of similar quality and specs would be fine but if one is much better than the other, you are better off trying to match them. I remember when I had a Velodyne VA1012 and Velodyne HGS-10. They didn't match very well. Part of the problem was the VA1012 only went down to 28Hz while the HGS-10 can go down to 20Hz. Also, one had a 60 watt amp while the other had 1250 watts. You can see that one subwoofer overpowers the other. Things got worse when I upgraded to the HGS-12 Series II. I have heard two and even four HGS-12s in the same room and together eliminate bass anomolies while producing clean, clear bass for organ and piano with impact for movies that had to be felt to believe.
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Post by manonfire on Mar 5, 2010 18:01:35 GMT -5
I'm ok with buying the vtf 2.3 but as I said the Hsu tech informed me to either find the same model or sell and buy 2 new, which I don't really want to do. Do any of you feel by buying the new model that there will be any noticeable difference in sound between the 2
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Post by Animo on Mar 5, 2010 19:00:50 GMT -5
I would do as the tech recommends. Either find a matching sub or buy 2 new matching subs...regardless of brand. You mentioned eD A3...which one? The A3-250 or the A3s-250? As an eD owner, I can safely say if you want punch, these subs will give it to you. I think you will be very satisfied with either one for now, and totally blown away when you order your second. That's just my opinion, others may disagree.
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Post by manonfire on Mar 5, 2010 19:08:20 GMT -5
I had my eyes on as 300
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Post by Animo on Mar 6, 2010 21:15:56 GMT -5
Do you mean the A2-300? if so, you better hurry. That baby comes off sale real soon. going from $350 to $415.
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Post by bootman on Mar 7, 2010 0:29:12 GMT -5
Mixing subs of similar quality and specs would be fine but if one is much better than the other, you are better off trying to match them. I remember when I had a Velodyne VA1012 and Velodyne HGS-10. They didn't match very well. Part of the problem was the VA1012 only went down to 28Hz while the HGS-10 can go down to 20Hz. Also, one had a 60 watt amp while the other had 1250 watts. You can see that one subwoofer overpowers the other. Things got worse when I upgraded to the HGS-12 Series II. I have heard two and even four HGS-12s in the same room and together eliminate bass anomolies while producing clean, clear bass for organ and piano with impact for movies that had to be felt to believe. This may have worked. Using the VA1012's speaker inputs with your main speakers and set them to large. Then use the HGS-10 as the LFE unit. That way you extend your main speakers to 28hz while still having a potent sub. Just a thought.
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Post by manonfire on Mar 7, 2010 2:30:50 GMT -5
sorry it was the a3 300
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Post by Animo on Mar 7, 2010 10:59:26 GMT -5
I'm sure this will outperform what you have now, and deliver the type of impact levels you are seeking. It will only get better when you add a second one. In any case, you can give eD a call and get all the answers you need from Alex or Brett. Just mention me when you call. 641.792.2501
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Post by manonfire on Mar 7, 2010 13:31:29 GMT -5
what are your thoughts on the differences between the a2 and the a3 300's as of now i have about 700 to spend. i believe the a2 are on sale till the 8th. honestly there nothing wrong with my hsu just feel like there is something that can hit them low passages in movies a little lower louder and harder. do you think going with the a3 300 now and 2nd down the road or buy the 2 a2 300 now and call it good.
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Post by bootman on Mar 7, 2010 20:35:57 GMT -5
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Post by topcat on Mar 8, 2010 13:31:33 GMT -5
I already asked in an earlier post is anyone else had a HSU VTF-3 MK 3 sub and if they could comment on it. I also invited others to express their ideas on this sub. Perhaps I did not word my request understandably at no one responded. Sorry if I was out of line or vague on what I was asking. I still would like to hear what you extremely helpful forum posters have to say. (Please) Again, I thank any and all who respond.
Thomas
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Post by sanjaygolf on Mar 8, 2010 13:37:54 GMT -5
I already asked in an earlier post is anyone else had a HSU VTF-3 MK 3 sub and if they could comment on it. I also invited others to express their ideas on this sub. Perhaps I did not word my request understandably at no one responded. Sorry if I was out of line or vague on what I was asking. I still would like to hear what you extremely helpful forum posters have to say. (Please) Again, I thank any and all who respond. Thomas I'm confused; your sig shows you have that sub. Why are you looking for feedback?
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Post by monkumonku on Mar 8, 2010 13:41:21 GMT -5
I already asked in an earlier post is anyone else had a HSU VTF-3 MK 3 sub and if they could comment on it. I also invited others to express their ideas on this sub. Perhaps I did not word my request understandably at no one responded. Sorry if I was out of line or vague on what I was asking. I still would like to hear what you extremely helpful forum posters have to say. (Please) Again, I thank any and all who respond. Thomas I just got a VTF-2 Mk 3 last week and it is similar in specs to the VTF-3 Mk 3 except for the difference in amp power (250 vs 350, I believe). So far, so good. According to Pete Hsu, the VTF-2 plays down to 16 hz +/- 1 db when measured outside in an open area. I am happy with mine. The bass is solid, authoritative, and tight. Musical notes are well defined. I tried the T-rex scene from Jurassic Park in DTS yesterday and got some serious, well-defined bass from it. I know this isn't the same model but the VTF-3 should be even better. I hope that helps. Personally I think Hsu gets overlooked a lot of times because of the new companies on the market, but they make a solid, highly-reviewed and reasonably priced product and have great service, too.
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Post by topcat on Mar 8, 2010 13:55:15 GMT -5
I already asked in an earlier post is anyone else had a HSU VTF-3 MK 3 sub and if they could comment on it. I also invited others to express their ideas on this sub. Perhaps I did not word my request understandably at no one responded. Sorry if I was out of line or vague on what I was asking. I still would like to hear what you extremely helpful forum posters have to say. (Please) Again, I thank any and all who respond. Thomas I'm confused; your sig shows you have that sub. Why are you looking for feedback? True, the HSU VTF-3 MK 3 is in my sig. I'm looking for feedback as I'm curious to hear if other forum members think the HSU VTF-3 MK 3 is a good sub or if I could have done a lot better without spending a whole lot more. There has been lot of discussion on different subs but little concerning HSU. The other sub in my sig (the Aperion) is just a remnant from the Aperion 5.1 HT system I had previously. Thanks for your interest. Thomas
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Post by topcat on Mar 8, 2010 13:58:18 GMT -5
I already asked in an earlier post is anyone else had a HSU VTF-3 MK 3 sub and if they could comment on it. I also invited others to express their ideas on this sub. Perhaps I did not word my request understandably at no one responded. Sorry if I was out of line or vague on what I was asking. I still would like to hear what you extremely helpful forum posters have to say. (Please) Again, I thank any and all who respond. Thomas I just got a VTF-2 Mk 3 last week and it is similar in specs to the VTF-3 Mk 3 except for the difference in amp power (250 vs 350, I believe). So far, so good. According to Pete Hsu, the VTF-2 plays down to 16 hz +/- 1 db when measured outside in an open area. I am happy with mine. The bass is solid, authoritative, and tight. Musical notes are well defined. I tried the T-rex scene from Jurassic Park in DTS yesterday and got some serious, well-defined bass from it. I know this isn't the same model but the VTF-3 should be even better. I hope that helps. Personally I think Hsu gets overlooked a lot of times because of the new companies on the market, but they make a solid, highly-reviewed and reasonably priced product and have great service, too. monkumonku, thanks for your answer, it's appreciated but I still hunger for the opinion of others. What say you
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Post by flamingeye on Mar 8, 2010 15:09:15 GMT -5
I have a MFW-15 and a 15" sealed DIYer with a 500watt bash amp and they work really well together the MFW goes down to 15hz while my DIYer goes to 20hz I have them x-over at 60/40 music/movies and they blend in seamlessly though it did take some work to get them there , I have never had the luxury of having two of the same subs so can not comment on that ,but before the MFW I had a klipsch 12" sub with my DIYer and before that a JBL 12"sub with my DIYer and I have successfully integrated them to work well with each other as long as there not stacked/placed together ,if your wanting to collocate them then I would think you will need identical subs, like I said though it does take time to get two different subs to work together but it can be done
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Post by Animo on Mar 8, 2010 18:21:02 GMT -5
what are your thoughts on the differences between the a2 and the a3 300's as of now i have about 700 to spend. i believe the a2 are on sale till the 8th. honestly there nothing wrong with my hsu just feel like there is something that can hit them low passages in movies a little lower louder and harder. do you think going with the a3 300 now and 2nd down the road or buy the 2 a2 300 now and call it good. If you can still get the A2-300 on sale, I would get a pair of those over a single A3-300. The SVS that someone posted is also a great sub for the money, but when you can get 2 for almost the price of one of another brand, more is better!!
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