Kavent P-2200 Monoblocks and S-22 Preamp

[jokris]

beautiful gear:) i must say that the build of that preamp takes my mind to vincent, they have had an pre like that for years now, eith the same build inside, and the remote is also very like, same fabric?

[jokris]

i must say that after i looked at their webpage, they have alot that looks very similar to the vincent gear, are they connected somehow?

[vincedog3]

I Like the Kavent gear. Good affordably made in China gear. Like Shengya etc. they are making some pretty cool gear. You did great Carlos. Besides that, no one, and I mean no one has a cool "remot" control at all. Bet it sounds great though. Enjoy Carlos.

[vincedog3]

Apr 18, 2010 14:39:53 GMT -5 jokris said:

i must say that after i looked at their webpage, they have alot that looks very similar to the vincent gear, are they connected somehow?

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Actually, Shengya Audio, and Vincent Audio are joined at the hip. Vincent Audio is distributed in the USA and Europe by Sintron Electonics and Thorens, yep the people that make turntables, though under new management.

[rjpoint]

Just curious as to whether or not the S22 or S33 is setup for HT Bypass? I don't think I can wait much longer for the XSP-1 and I love the look & build of these Kavent pre's. Let me know.
Cheers--RJ

[jedinite24]

Hi rjpoint

As pretty as the Kavent S-33 is it does not have HT Bypass.

On Audiogon and eBay Kavent gear does appear but very sporadically.

Good luck with your search.

[Porscheguy]

I believe Kavent might be defunct now...... Not sure..

[vincedog3]

Actually I found a website with their products.
www.kellsieavdesign.com/aboutus.htm

[ausman]

only if there was 3/2/1 ohm rating on the xpa-1's, it would be interesting to hear the comparison then wouldn't it...

[stiehl11]

Maybe you should hear a XPA-1 before you criticize any Emo product? Just saying...

[Pauly]

Carlos did do a comparison. The XPA-1 was and still is one of his favorite amps that he's had, and it compared very well against the Kavent.

[nicholas322]

Does anyone know where I can see a comparison between the XPA-1gen 1 and gen 2?
I have 4 of the XPA-1 gen 1 in my system and wanted to know if I should upgrade to the class A monoblocks.

[garbulky]

Sept 11, 2017 18:38:44 GMT -5 nicholas322 said:

Does anyone know where I can see a comparison between the XPA-1gen 1 and gen 2?
I have 4 of the XPA-1 gen 1 in my system and wanted to know if I should upgrade to the class A monoblocks.

Are you using it as a bi amp system?
I absolutely love my XPA-1 gen 2. It's the best amp I've heard though I've heard other units that come close to it. For me the class A sound sweetens the deal allowing a lot of immersion in to the sound.

However a few caveats, it is very easy not to hear a difference in amps of this caliber. It really does depend on your setup, room treatment, and your past experience. For instance, if you don't hear a difference between electronics, you are likely not going to hear any difference here.

Though there are other differences, the main difference seems to be the class A sound and a small tweak to the power supply. The class A sound is very hard to describe as it definitely doesn't jump out at you. Ask me right now which mode I'm listening to and I would in no shape or form be able to tell you without looking. But I find that as time goes on, the class A sound simply draws me in to the music better making it feel more natural and dimensional.

[mgbpuff]

No UL. CE, CSA, or EL certification. If you burn the house down - no recourse! "Remot Control" - really!

[pedrocols]

You guys realise this topic is like 20 years old right?

[mgbpuff]

You guys is me - no, I did not notice the original post date! Why was it revived for a question that had nothing to do with Kavent?

[mgbpuff]

Sept 12, 2017 11:58:42 GMT -5 garbulky said:

Sept 11, 2017 18:38:44 GMT -5 nicholas322 said:

Does anyone know where I can see a comparison between the XPA-1gen 1 and gen 2?
I have 4 of the XPA-1 gen 1 in my system and wanted to know if I should upgrade to the class A monoblocks.

Are you using it as a bi amp system?
I absolutely love my XPA-1 gen 2. It's the best amp I've heard though I've heard other units that come close to it. For me the class A sound sweetens the deal allowing a lot of immersion in to the sound.

However a few caveats, it is very easy not to hear a difference in amps of this caliber. It really does depend on your setup, room treatment, and your past experience. For instance, if you don't hear a difference between electronics, you are likely not going to hear any difference here.

Though there are other differences, the main difference seems to be the class A sound and a small tweak to the power supply. The class A sound is very hard to describe as it definitely doesn't jump out at you. Ask me right now which mode I'm listening to and I would in no shape or form be able to tell you without looking. But I find that as time goes on, the class A sound simply draws me in to the music better making it feel more natural and dimensional.

I can't argue with what you hear, but to me high biased Class A is technically a sham. The most linear potion of the characteristic curve for a tube or transistor is the lower end of the curve. A/B designs are biased just a little so the lower end of the curve is more used. But in high biased Class A the upper end of the curve is used more where it is more likely to be less linear. The amount of The amount of bias needs to be just enough to keep the highest frequencies from sounding harsh due to operation around the forward/reverse current crossover region. Of course we are talking about push pull circuits here.