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Post by monkumonku on Apr 19, 2010 21:58:02 GMT -5
I think the MAIN point has not been hit upon yet... If Emotiva would have offered up a more fitting remote at the $700 level (Oppo BDP-83 remote comes to mind...), then Emo wouldn't have the criticism about the dollar tree remote! If it is that big of a price factor, then just say the UMC-1 is $719. I don't think another $20 or so would have made any bit of difference in a buyers decision. No talk about how cheapy the remote is, and the whole shooting match is still a great deal. Win-Win. Aside from that, the dollar tree remote works as long as you're pretty close to the UMC. It does what it is supposed to do without looking like much. My Harmony One fills in whatever inadequacies the stocker has. What more can you say about it? And yes, I really like my UMC and will not be sending it back! ;D Well my two cents, worth less probably, is that the Oppo remote is one ugly thing too except it is larger. Between the UMC-1 and the Oppo, I don't really have a preference. The Oppo has more keys but you have to press them really hard to get the unit to operate and it is just plain ugly. It doesn't look as cheap as the UMC-1 but neither does it look expensive. I think you can say why didn't Oppo use a less expensive remote since this one is so ugly anyway, and make the price $10 less? That said, I do love my Oppo. But the remote is just so-so. ;D |
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Post by bborzell on Apr 19, 2010 23:01:43 GMT -5
If the moderators can't read this post for what it is; a simple expression of a desire to "dish out lumps" as opposed to being respectful, then they are not doing their jobs.
It's one thing to try to keep comments on topic, but to do that at the expense of reasonable people having to put up with someone whose expressed intent is to "dish out lumps" falls short of any legitimate expectation regarding forum behavior.
I will express my next and last opinion on this matter in a written letter to the President of Emotiva.
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Post by topcat on Apr 20, 2010 11:20:21 GMT -5
I have to agree that coolhands was way out of line with his "dish out lumps"comment, I hardly think that it is time to write a "letter to the President fo Emotiva". This is something that the moderators need to handle....and it may be that they are. What they are doing behind the scenes with the likes of coolhands is unknown to the rest of us.
Give it a little time....the president has many more important thing chewing at their a$$ right now. Just my opinion of course.
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Post by wizardofoz on Apr 20, 2010 11:50:41 GMT -5
If speculation about the cost of a decent remote - (I have never seen a prepro remote without direct input selection) - is looking at anything even near $50 then this is pretty steep to pay. If it $100 then that is just plain ridiculous.
As there seems to be some other issues for those like me with a USP-1 even going to the Harmony One that I have is going to be difficult.
the WAF issues are bad enough with the firmware, and she also cant deal with the Harmony One that well either, no remote is perfect but one that is a good deal less than perfect is as good as no remote at all...
That said even the front panel has no direct input....less is more?
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Post by BillBauman on Apr 20, 2010 12:00:37 GMT -5
Would you be happy if they added a $50 at cost remote and adjusted the price of the UMC to $799? Shhhhh!!! Careful what you think of. And that's all I have to say about that. |
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Post by nowandthen on Apr 20, 2010 12:54:37 GMT -5
The remote is kind of whimpy but I'm ok with it. The thing that bothers me is the poor response. The UMC-1 seems very fussy when it comes to receiving an IR signal. I tried my harmony remote but it wasn't any better. Can the poor IR issue be fixed? If I recall this is a common problem, right? This could be the one long-lasting annoyance. (Please no "send it back" comments).  |
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Post by monkeypimp on Apr 20, 2010 13:04:16 GMT -5
The remote is kind of whimpy but I'm ok with it. The thing that bothers me is the poor response. The UMC-1 seems very fussy when it comes to receiving an IR signal. I tried my harmony remote but it wasn't any better. Can the poor IR issue be fixed? If I recall this is a common problem, right? This could be the one long-lasting annoyance. (Please no "send it back" comments). I wonder if it is just an issue with yours....the remote that comes with the unit has to be pointed directly at the unit I have noticed but my Harmony 880 can be pointed in any direction and even from another room as long as it is pointed out the door works like a charm with the UMC. Good luck getting it worked out. |
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Post by monkeypimp on Apr 20, 2010 13:05:08 GMT -5
Would you be happy if they added a $50 at cost remote and adjusted the price of the UMC to $799? Shhhhh!!! Careful what you think of. And that's all I have to say about that. I didn't even realize I said that outloud...Whoops!! ;D |
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Post by LCSeminole on Apr 20, 2010 17:13:14 GMT -5
Obviously there have been posts in this thread, since I have last logged in that were not on topic. Full disclosure: I deleted all off topic postings and modified others that quoted those off topic postings. Please stay on topic or the thread will go the way of being closed.  |
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Post by Woodpecker on Apr 20, 2010 22:41:04 GMT -5
I think the MAIN point has not been hit upon yet... If Emotiva would have offered up a more fitting remote at the $700 level (Oppo BDP-83 remote comes to mind...), then Emo wouldn't have the criticism about the dollar tree remote! If it is that big of a price factor, then just say the UMC-1 is $719. I don't think another $20 or so would have made any bit of difference in a buyers decision. No talk about how cheapy the remote is, and the whole shooting match is still a great deal. Win-Win. Aside from that, the dollar tree remote works as long as you're pretty close to the UMC. It does what it is supposed to do without looking like much. My Harmony One fills in whatever inadequacies the stocker has. What more can you say about it? And yes, I really like my UMC and will not be sending it back! ;D Well my two cents, worth less probably, is that the Oppo remote is one ugly thing too except it is larger. Between the UMC-1 and the Oppo, I don't really have a preference. The Oppo has more keys but you have to press them really hard to get the unit to operate and it is just plain ugly. It doesn't look as cheap as the UMC-1 but neither does it look expensive. I think you can say why didn't Oppo use a less expensive remote since this one is so ugly anyway, and make the price $10 less? That said, I do love my Oppo. But the remote is just so-so. ;D I agree that the BDP83 remote isn't sexy!  But for function and everyday use, it is a far cry better than their previous player's remotes, and certainly better than the UMC's. You would think that in this day and age that form and function are much easier to integrate. Maybe this is the answer:  |
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Post by monkumonku on Apr 20, 2010 22:45:52 GMT -5
Well my two cents, worth less probably, is that the Oppo remote is one ugly thing too except it is larger. Between the UMC-1 and the Oppo, I don't really have a preference. The Oppo has more keys but you have to press them really hard to get the unit to operate and it is just plain ugly. It doesn't look as cheap as the UMC-1 but neither does it look expensive. I think you can say why didn't Oppo use a less expensive remote since this one is so ugly anyway, and make the price $10 less? That said, I do love my Oppo. But the remote is just so-so. ;D I agree that the BDP83 remote isn't sexy! But for function and everyday use, it is a far cry better than their previous player's remotes, and certainly better than the UMC's. You would think that in this day and age that form and function are much easier to integrate. Maybe this is the answer: So is that a universal remote or is it confined to one particular model? ;D |
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Post by BillBauman on Apr 21, 2010 0:33:59 GMT -5
Please tell me that remote is not designed to be compatible with multiple gender changers.
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Post by NorthStar on Apr 21, 2010 0:50:21 GMT -5
;D ...I want one of those! I'll even pay a thousand bucks if it works! |
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Post by Woodpecker on Apr 21, 2010 13:35:10 GMT -5
Please tell me that remote is not designed to be compatible with multiple gender changers. No worries guys. Totally a 'hetereo' ONLY remote! ;D Not sure on the universal 'learning' version yet. If only I could find the hex codes for this... |
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Post by fistofsouth on Apr 21, 2010 20:54:05 GMT -5
This whole discussion of remotes reminds me of something I found in a recent Parts Express catalog. I have Verizon Fios as my HDTV provider and have been satisfied with that selection up to and including the remote. It isn't anything special, but it is back-lit and does provide some universal features. At any rate the thing fell off of the kitchen counter one evening (don't even ask why it was in the kitchen) and when it hit the floor the plastic cover for the IR blaster came off and the case became a little disjointed. I fixed both issues, but the IR cover just keeps popping out and it is annoying. Now I am not familiar with how much remotes go for on the wholesale market, but I figured even if I could find a Fios branded remote it would cost me between $25 and $40. Imagine my surprise when I opened up the aforementioned PE catalog and found my exact remote (Fios branding and all) for only $3.50.
I said all of that to say this; I also voted for a cheap remote when Emo asked and although I plan on going with a nice universal remote (when I find one that meets all of my requirements) I can understand how the cheapness of the UMC-1 remote could be a problem. If a UMC-1 owner already had to sell the wife on the concept of separates and they have had firmware issues to boot that remote could become the last straw. In many instances less is more, but if you passed up on an AVR the wife would have been happy with and you have had firmware problems then one night while your away the wife picks up the remote and the brushed aluminum sticker is coming off and she can't get a good lock with the IR from 2 feet away you may have problems when you get home.
I think it is nice that Emo will be offering an alternative soon, but I also completely understand the OP's point.
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But for function and everyday use, it is a far cry better than their previous player's remotes, and certainly better than the UMC's. You would think that in this day and age that form and function are much easier to integrate. Maybe this is the answer:
