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Post by ghstudio on Aug 7, 2010 9:53:22 GMT -5
Started as a separate thread as suggested by LC.....
I assume that the wonderful clarity of digital sound will continue and from what I've read, the quality of analog sound will also improve.
Will the XMC continue to offer Emoq or will the approach to equalization change from fixed EQ bands to parametric EQ's?
Will the bass routing approach be changed in the XMC?
When can I order one or even get on a waiting list?
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Aug 7, 2010 10:06:08 GMT -5
We could add:
Assuming the pre-order price for those on the list will remain at $999, what is the estimated "regular" price likely to be?
I suspect none of this will be answered before Emofest though.
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Post by LCSeminole on Aug 7, 2010 10:14:56 GMT -5
I have always hoped for two independent hdmi outputs. Hopefully much of the specifications of an XMC-1 will be revealed at EmoFest. Personally an approach like many other manufacturers would be my approach, an announcement a month or so before release.
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Post by jamrock on Aug 7, 2010 12:57:16 GMT -5
Don't leave out my pet peeves: Dual independent subwoofer outputs, HDMI 1.4a, an active HDMI (so that my wife can watch TV without the need to turn on the entire system) 2 HDMI inputs on front panel, USB, J-45, I-Pod, HD Radio tuner with RDS, A/V streaming & large text (readable from 10ft by the naked eye). I'll come up with other features later.
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Post by Topend on Aug 7, 2010 14:10:30 GMT -5
A PEQ would be nice.
A tradition form of bass management would be nice too, if only to keep Marcus happy.
Cheers, Dave.
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Post by LCSeminole on Aug 7, 2010 14:16:18 GMT -5
Don't leave out my pet peeves: Dual independent subwoofer outputs, HDMI 1.4a, an active HDMI (so that my wife can watch TV without the need to turn on the entire system) 2 HDMI inputs on front panel, USB, J-45, I-Pod, HD Radio tuner with RDS, A/V streaming & large text (readable from 10ft by the naked eye). I'll come up with other features later. jamrock Count me in on the active HDMI. Is this a feature that many other preamp processors have? I can't say I ever recall having that feature on any av receiver that I've had in the past, and those were all Onkyo.
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Post by Lonnie on Aug 7, 2010 22:42:22 GMT -5
A PEQ would be nice. A tradition form of bass management would be nice too, if only to keep Marcus happy. Cheers, Dave. Markus is moving back to Europe so I doubt that will be an issue.
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Post by srrndhound on Aug 8, 2010 1:43:00 GMT -5
A PEQ would be nice. A tradition form of bass management would be nice too, if only to keep Marcus happy. Cheers, Dave. Markus is moving back to Europe so I doubt that will be an issue. What, no smiley? ;D Are we then to take this as a serious reply? Markus' presence is not what makes the UMC-1 bass management incorrect, so his absence will not make it right. It will remain wrong until it is fixed.
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Post by petes on Aug 8, 2010 4:16:07 GMT -5
Markus is moving back to Europe so I doubt that will be an issue. Not sure that that on its own will make any difference - plenty of Emo fans in Europe and still on this board...
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Post by Lonnie on Aug 8, 2010 4:20:25 GMT -5
Markus is moving back to Europe so I doubt that will be an issue. What, no smiley? ;D Are we then to take this as a serious reply? Markus' presence is not what makes the UMC-1 bass management incorrect, so his absence will not make it right. It will remain wrong until it is fixed. Oh boy, let's speculate on intent here. Please don't put words in my mouth or read in some dark intent that wasn't there. I just forgot the smiley, sorry, here it is. ;D BTW, teh bass manager works as it was desinged and intended. Markus and a couple of others may not like it but everyone else likes it so it won't be changed and there is nothing to fix.
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Post by Stevens on Aug 8, 2010 5:50:12 GMT -5
Markus is moving back to Europe so I doubt that will be an issue. Markus' presence is not what makes the UMC-1 bass management incorrect, so his absence will not make it right. It will remain wrong until it is fixed. BTW, teh bass manager works as it was desinged and intended. Markus and a couple of others may not like it but everyone else likes it so it won't be changed and there is nothing to fix. I'm sad to see that Markus is no longer present on this forum and that many of his threads & posts are nowhere to be found. I guess he (or someone else) had enough of his Don Quixote-like role here. Anyways - his points about the bass management in the UMC were technically valid, albeit apparently not of practical significance to most other users of the UMC-1. I don't see the harm, however, in taking his advise when designing the XMC. Also, instead of continuing with some version of the EmoQ, I wonder how much it would cost to integrate Audyssey MultEQ XT instead?
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Post by Topend on Aug 8, 2010 6:39:12 GMT -5
Markus is moving back to Europe so I doubt that will be an issue. Also, instead of continuing with some version of the EmoQ, I wonder how much it would cost to integrate Audyssey MultEQ XT instead? I have wondered about this too.
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Post by ghstudio on Aug 8, 2010 8:19:27 GMT -5
BTW, teh bass manager works as it was desinged and intended. Markus and a couple of others may not like it but everyone else likes it so it won't be changed and there is nothing to fix. Would you respond to the thread on Bass Management 101 (follow on) that asks how to set up and best use the UMC-1 bass management.....
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Post by Spiky on Aug 8, 2010 9:10:04 GMT -5
I have always hoped for two independent hdmi outputs. Hopefully much of the specifications of an XMC-1 will be revealed at EmoFest. Personally an approach like many other manufacturers would be my approach, an announcement a month or so before release. Keep hoping. It was promised this would NOT happen.
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Post by jamrock on Aug 8, 2010 9:15:39 GMT -5
Continuing with the features list: RF, 3 component programmable remote with LCD display (direct inputs, AA or AAA batteries and screwless battery compartment). A fixed start-up volume, selectable bass and treble controls (I don't know why these are useful but some were clamouring for them - more sales though). Optional aluminium or titanium finish.
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Post by Brian on Aug 8, 2010 10:35:28 GMT -5
What, no smiley? ;D Are we then to take this as a serious reply? Markus' presence is not what makes the UMC-1 bass management incorrect, so his absence will not make it right. It will remain wrong until it is fixed. Oh boy, let's speculate on intent here. Please don't put words in my mouth or read in some dark intent that wasn't there. I just forgot the smiley, sorry, here it is. ;D BTW, teh bass manager works as it was desinged and intended. Markus and a couple of others may not like it but everyone else likes it so it won't be changed and there is nothing to fix. Since there is no fixing of BM, the XMC will have the same BM?
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Post by Brian on Aug 8, 2010 10:38:49 GMT -5
BTW, teh bass manager works as it was desinged and intended. Markus and a couple of others may not like it but everyone else likes it so it won't be changed and there is nothing to fix. Would you respond to the thread on Bass Management 101 (follow on) that asks how to set up and best use the UMC-1 bass management..... Not going to happen because it is incorrected/designed and not going to be fixed or needs fixing.
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Post by DYohn on Aug 8, 2010 10:48:52 GMT -5
Oh boy, let's speculate on intent here. Please don't put words in my mouth or read in some dark intent that wasn't there. I just forgot the smiley, sorry, here it is. ;D BTW, teh bass manager works as it was desinged and intended. Markus and a couple of others may not like it but everyone else likes it so it won't be changed and there is nothing to fix. Since there is no fixing of BM, the XMC will have the same BM? You can't "fix" what isn't "broken." What Lonnie is saying is he does not intend to change the current UMC-1 architecture.
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Post by Brian on Aug 8, 2010 10:57:46 GMT -5
Since there is no fixing of BM, the XMC will have the same BM? You can't "fix" what isn't "broken." What Lonnie is saying is he does not intend to change the current UMC-1 architecture. Then the XMC will have the same BM if not "broken". If it changes, then we are back to broken.
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Post by jamrock on Aug 8, 2010 10:58:04 GMT -5
"Since there is no fixing of BM, the XMC will have the same BM? " Don't read anything into that statement. Lonnie is simply stating that the base management as implemented in the UMC-1 does not need fixing because that is how it was designed. That does not mean that base management for the XMC-1 will be implemented similarly. I can assure you that EMO is taking note of all the (customer) complaints, and has learned a lot from the design & release of the UMC-1. EMO would like to sell as many XMC-1s as possible, because that it why they are in business - to sell products and run a profitable company. To do that, you will have to satisfy your potential customers and, controversial products will not generate volume sales. Therefore, don't expect to find anything controversial about the XMC-1. At least the same controversies as with the UMC-1. jamrock
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