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Post by ntrain42 on Nov 15, 2010 15:00:13 GMT -5
Well I did the front panel update. And I manually reprogrammed my Harmony remote with the new metal remote codes. We shall see how it goes. Im hoping the shutdown/lockup issue is solved and Im hoping my remote lockup issues are solved along with it as well. If not I do believe Lonnie told me that the newer UMC-1's have a hardware change update which I think he stated could be causing some of my problems in which case I will probably be forced to do a unit swap.
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Post by ntrain42 on Nov 16, 2010 15:07:44 GMT -5
Well so far, so good. No shutdown issues or remote lockups so far. But I thought all was fine too when I just did the 7.02 update, then about 3-4 days later it started up again out of the blue. I'll give it a week or 2 and give another update(or sooner if I experience a problem again).
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Post by ntrain42 on Nov 17, 2010 13:18:52 GMT -5
Eh, its still locking up......
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Post by ntrain42 on Nov 23, 2010 20:28:03 GMT -5
Well, it looks like my lock up issues have to do with the projector screens remote. Seems like the IR signal between the UMC-1 and the Elite screen is really close. Any ideas on a work around?
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Post by Lonnie on Nov 23, 2010 23:27:39 GMT -5
Well, it looks like my lock up issues have to do with the projector screens remote. Seems like the IR signal between the UMC-1 and the Elite screen is really close. Any ideas on a work around? Just curious here, are you running the new front panel code for hte metal remote?
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Post by aussie on Nov 24, 2010 0:32:22 GMT -5
I had regular shutdown lock-ups before the new front panel code, I updated my UMC-1 and tested it for quite a while cycling the power and didn't get a single shutdown issue. I still haven't had a single shut-down problem since then either.
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Nov 24, 2010 7:25:08 GMT -5
Well, it looks like my lock up issues have to do with the projector screens remote. Seems like the IR signal between the UMC-1 and the Elite screen is really close. Any ideas on a work around? Just curious here, are you running the new front panel code for hte metal remote? I know it's hard to read every post, but he did say he had used the new FPC for the metal remote a few posts back. I see a similar conflict with my garage door opener and doorbell, thankfully the door opener makes the doorbell ring and not the other way around. NT: perhaps you can get a trigger module for the screen? Another thought might be putting some dark tint plastic film over the receiver to see what happens, I recall hearing about some IR receivers that were sensitive to stray IR and maybe it is just part of the spectrum from the UMC remote causing the issue if it does not happen all the time? Just a thought, I'm not too hopeful about it!
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Post by ntrain42 on Nov 24, 2010 11:55:12 GMT -5
Well, it looks like my lock up issues have to do with the projector screens remote. Seems like the IR signal between the UMC-1 and the Elite screen is really close. Any ideas on a work around? Just curious here, are you running the new front panel code for hte metal remote? Yep, and the lockups remain. The same whether I use old plastic or new metal remote IR front coding. The lockup seems to happen when the screen comes to a halt when lowering or raising a couple times.
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Post by ntrain42 on Nov 24, 2010 11:58:31 GMT -5
Just curious here, are you running the new front panel code for hte metal remote? I know it's hard to read every post, but he did say he had used the new FPC for the metal remote a few posts back. I see a similar conflict with my garage door opener and doorbell, thankfully the door opener makes the doorbell ring and not the other way around. NT: perhaps you can get a trigger module for the screen? Another thought might be putting some dark tint plastic film over the receiver to see what happens, I recall hearing about some IR receivers that were sensitive to stray IR and maybe it is just part of the spectrum from the UMC remote causing the issue if it does not happen all the time? Just a thought, I'm not too hopeful about it! Would the remote trigger allow me to use a remote(and if so, which one? THe UMC coded remote or the Harmony remote which has coding for the both screen and umc programmed in) to manually raise or lower the screen. My source unit sits behind the screen, so when i change movies etc. I have to raise and then relower the screen. This is when the lockups normally happen. The system is currenty setup with the screens 12v remote trigger wired into the projector itself. So when I turn on the system the harmony remote turns on the PJ(which in turn, turns on the screen and lowers it),the source unit and the UMC-1. Now if I want to raise or lower the screen I use the harmony 1 which has the screens remote code programmed in as well(The projector screen has both a 12v trigger and an IR port for raising and lowering the screen so I can be raised and lowered 2 different ways).
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Post by ntrain42 on Nov 24, 2010 12:08:55 GMT -5
Whats bugging me on this, is the UMC-1 is actually working flawlessly now for me minus this one friggin issue. Most people who have a UMC-1 probably dont use it with a projector, or specifically the Elite Screen Cinetension2 tab tensioned electric screen I use. So this issue isnt going to show up for 99.99% of the people who own this which makes me an extreme minority at .001% lol. Just hoping there can be a straight fix or an elegant workaround to the issue. SOmeone at Emotiva needs to grab a cinetension2 screen for their demo room.
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Nov 24, 2010 12:36:55 GMT -5
I know it's hard to read every post, but he did say he had used the new FPC for the metal remote a few posts back. I see a similar conflict with my garage door opener and doorbell, thankfully the door opener makes the doorbell ring and not the other way around. NT: perhaps you can get a trigger module for the screen? Another thought might be putting some dark tint plastic film over the receiver to see what happens, I recall hearing about some IR receivers that were sensitive to stray IR and maybe it is just part of the spectrum from the UMC remote causing the issue if it does not happen all the time? Just a thought, I'm not too hopeful about it! Would the remote trigger allow me to use a remote(and if so, which one? The system is currenty setup with the screens 12v remote trigger wired into the projector itself. So when I turn on the system the harmony remote turns on the PJ(which in turn, turns on the screen and lowers it),the source unit and the UMC-1. Now if I want to raise or lower the screen I use the harmony 1 which has the screens remote code programmed in as well(The projector screen has both a 12v trigger and an IR port for raising and lowering the screen so I can be raised and lowered 2 different ways). What about putting the screen trigger into the UMC? You could then have an input that turns off that trigger, so when you want to raise the screen, you switch over to that input which would be the same as your most used input but with the screen up? You should be able to get "remote trigger" boxes which would come with a new remote to connect to the screen and then add that to the Harmony - and with luck it would have IR codes that do not interfere. I'll see if I can dig up an IR trigger box link too. Edit: These kinds of thing might work: www.xantech.com/controls/ControllersSwitches/ControllersSwitchers/CC12/www.nilesaudio.com/product.php?prodID=MSU250&recordID=Main%20System%20Units&categoryID=Ingenious%20IR&catcdID=5&prdcdID=FG01003With suitable IR pickups connected. Having selectable codes sounds useful. Maybe email them and see what parts list they suggest?
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Nov 24, 2010 12:44:34 GMT -5
Whats bugging me on this, is the UMC-1 is actually working flawlessly now for me minus this one friggin issue. Most people who have a UMC-1 probably dont use it with a projector, or specifically the Elite Screen Cinetension2 tab tensioned electric screen I use. So this issue isnt going to show up for 99.99% of the people who own this which makes me an extreme minority at .001% lol. Just hoping there can be a straight fix or an elegant workaround to the issue. SOmeone at Emotiva needs to grab a cinetension2 screen for their demo room. My screen has IR only and thankfully the codes do not interfere so I just have the ^ and v buttons on the harmony do screen up/down if I need to do it manually. Edit: You could buy a new IR controller box and wire it to the motor. The Italian one that came with mine has mains one side and motor the other with a little IR receiver on a cable - not the neatest or best but it mostly works. Here's such a thing: www.hdtvsupply.com/dr-irtr.html
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Post by yellowjelly on Nov 24, 2010 21:49:44 GMT -5
I need you guys help. I recently upgraded my UMC-1 from v6.04 beta to v7, then v7.2 . I also installed the Front Panel update v1_04 Upgrades went successful. I hooked it up and everything powered up fine. Then I started to setup the menu>System setup. Encountered some warning about some piracy message..HDMI should be used for screen something message. Then screen went blank. I powered down and up from the button in the back. Power button turns amber as expected. Then when I hit the power button...it turned blue and the screen starts it's normal power up progress bar....then screen and all of buttons go blank except the power button remain lid blue. Everytime now, when I power up it does the same thing...screen will not stay lid. None of button stay lid except the power button. Basically, my UMC is not functioning at all with this problem because after it powers up...it shuts down. This is happening even with nothing hooked up to the UMC.
Any help what I should be doing is greatly appreciated.
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Post by Lonnie on Nov 24, 2010 21:55:58 GMT -5
I need you guys help. I recently upgraded my UMC-1 from v6.04 beta to v7, then v7.2 . I also installed the Front Panel update v1_04 Upgrades went successful. I hooked it up and everything powered up fine. Then I started to setup the menu>System setup. Encountered some warning about some piracy message..HDMI should be used for screen something message. Then screen went blank. I powered down and up from the button in the back. Power button turns amber as expected. Then when I hit the power button...it turned blue and the screen starts it's normal power up progress bar....then screen and all of buttons go blank except the power button remain lid blue. Everytime now, when I power up it does the same thing...screen will not stay lid. None of button stay lid except the power button. Basically, my UMC is not functioning at all with this problem because after it powers up...it shuts down. Any help what I should be doing is greatly appreciated. Thanks Press the Dim button on the remote. ;D Oh, by the way the blue screen and warning you saw is because you were running a copy protected movie or show through the HDMI but was using the component video output and it has to do this. Basically if it comes in HDMI and has a copy protection flag, we can't send it out on anything other than HDMI.
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Post by yellowjelly on Nov 24, 2010 22:04:07 GMT -5
I need you guys help. I recently upgraded my UMC-1 from v6.04 beta to v7, then v7.2 . I also installed the Front Panel update v1_04 Upgrades went successful. I hooked it up and everything powered up fine. Then I started to setup the menu>System setup. Encountered some warning about some piracy message..HDMI should be used for screen something message. Then screen went blank. I powered down and up from the button in the back. Power button turns amber as expected. Then when I hit the power button...it turned blue and the screen starts it's normal power up progress bar....then screen and all of buttons go blank except the power button remain lid blue. Everytime now, when I power up it does the same thing...screen will not stay lid. None of button stay lid except the power button. Basically, my UMC is not functioning at all with this problem because after it powers up...it shuts down. Any help what I should be doing is greatly appreciated. Thanks Press the Dim button on the remote. ;D Oh, by the way the blue screen and warning you saw is because you were running a copy protected movie or show through the HDMI but was using the component video output and it has to do this. Basically if it comes in HDMI and has a copy protection flag, we can't send it out on anything other than HDMI. Thanks Lonnie for the quick response. You are correct about show through HDMI but using component video output. For some reason, HDMI output is not working with my projector from day one so I had to use component video output. Could be my project HDMI input not functioning so that is why I use the component connection instead. Even with nothing connected to the UMC (except the power cord ;D), it's powering down.
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Post by geebo on Nov 24, 2010 23:31:42 GMT -5
You didn't mention whether or not you tried what Lonnie suegested. Try the DIM button because if it somehow got all the way down to minimum, the only thing that stays lit is the blue power button.
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Nov 25, 2010 12:46:12 GMT -5
I need you guys help. I recently upgraded my UMC-1 from v6.04 beta to v7, then v7.2 . I also installed the Front Panel update v1_04 Upgrades went successful. I hooked it up and everything powered up fine. Then I started to setup the menu>System setup. Encountered some warning about some piracy message..HDMI should be used for screen something message. Then screen went blank. I powered down and up from the button in the back. Power button turns amber as expected. Then when I hit the power button...it turned blue and the screen starts it's normal power up progress bar....then screen and all of buttons go blank except the power button remain lid blue. Everytime now, when I power up it does the same thing...screen will not stay lid. None of button stay lid except the power button. Basically, my UMC is not functioning at all with this problem because after it powers up...it shuts down. Any help what I should be doing is greatly appreciated. Thanks Press the Dim button on the remote. ;D Oh, by the way the blue screen and warning you saw is because you were running a copy protected movie or show through the HDMI but was using the component video output and it has to do this. Basically if it comes in HDMI and has a copy protection flag, we can't send it out on anything other than HDMI. Are you not supposed to be having a (well earned) rest today Lonnie? Now that's customer support! How many other CTOs would be posting on a user forum during Thanksgiving? (or even in the first place!). While you are there, any word back on the glitches reported with 7.2-05? ;D Cheers and a have a great few days, you, yours and all at Emotiva.
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Post by yellowjelly on Nov 25, 2010 13:10:26 GMT -5
You didn't mention whether or not you tried what Lonnie suegested. Try the DIM button because if it somehow got all the way down to minimum, the only thing that stays lit is the blue power button. Yes...the DIM button is working...thanks! You guys rock! Happy Thanksgiving to all!
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Post by snodog on Jan 16, 2011 12:27:40 GMT -5
I actually press the power button on mine when I shut it down and it will occassionally power down but the blue lights stay on, very annoying. Then I end up having to turn it back on and power down again. Id say it happens about one out of every ten times. I have all the updates except the very last one I believe so hopefully it gets fixed.
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Jan 16, 2011 13:02:09 GMT -5
When you say you have all the updates, do you mean the front panel code and or the FW?
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