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Post by rogerwilco on Dec 15, 2010 17:10:48 GMT -5
Not that the company's name is Emotiva, or that "they're" (they are) is not a substitute for the possesive pronoun "their". Gotta love the grammar police! |
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Post by xyz1 on Dec 15, 2010 17:31:28 GMT -5
Not that the company's name is Emotiva, or that "they're" (they are) is not a substitute for the possesive pronoun "their". Gotta love the grammar police! I no ;D  |
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Post by xyz1 on Dec 15, 2010 17:43:41 GMT -5
I no ;D He posed the question "what do I know?". Beyond that, it's lazy and disrespectful to misspell proper names. BTW, the speaker company is Magnepan. Ok Mr. Perfect. |
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Post by malibujeff on Dec 15, 2010 19:41:50 GMT -5
The reason I believe the XDA-1 will perform at hi-res via USB is because Lonnie, Eric, and several Lounge Members have all reported they have successfully done so. I asked for driver name, but thus far have not had any response beyond "whatever Windows automatically installed". I don't know if that means the necessary driver was part of the JRivers, Foobar, etc install set or if their PCs went to the Internet to find the needed driver. Hopefully, Lonnie or Eric will chime in and clarify this quandary. I talked to Lonnie and Eric at Emofest about the USB and neither could answer with confidence. Lonnie sent me to Eric when I kept asking specific questions. After talking with Eric, he finally said the USB only supported 16/48. He said they were trying to get the DAC out and the next version would hopefully support higher bit rates. I don't think they really know. This question was brought up back in October. See reply #28 here: emotivalounge.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=preampdac&action=display&thread=13937&page=2 Lonnie responded to this thread and even said he would get Eric to follow up, but still nothing. Many peopleare moving their music collection to a PC/music server. Using the USB means you do not have buy a sound card. Is one port better? There is a lot of debate over that one. I don't know the answer.  |
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Post by monkumonku on Dec 19, 2010 0:07:31 GMT -5
I had problems getting the XDA-1 to output sound from my computer (Windows 7) using USB connection. It saw the device, but did not output any sound. I changed the output device to Speakers USB PNP sound device no dice. So after some searching with google, I downloaded C-Media's drivers & low and behold, I got sound thru the USB connection. The driver file name is C Media v.7.12.8.2144 So I just wanted to share that information, it might help someone. And yes the sample rate goes to 24 bit 96k hz  Hey thank you! I finally got around to trying the USB connection to the XDA-1 and had the same problem you did. I read this thread, came across your post, googled the driver name, downloaded and installed it. And voila, sound came forth! ;D |
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Post by xyz1 on Dec 19, 2010 1:46:05 GMT -5
I had problems getting the XDA-1 to output sound from my computer (Windows 7) using USB connection. It saw the device, but did not output any sound. I changed the output device to Speakers USB PNP sound device no dice. So after some searching with google, I downloaded C-Media's drivers & low and behold, I got sound thru the USB connection. The driver file name is C Media v.7.12.8.2144 So I just wanted to share that information, it might help someone. And yes the sample rate goes to 24 bit 96k hz Hey thank you! I finally got around to trying the USB connection to the XDA-1 and had the same problem you did. I read this thread, came across your post, googled the driver name, downloaded and installed it. And voila, sound came forth! ;D Awsome, glad that helped. |
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Post by rixtergonzo on Dec 19, 2010 10:31:29 GMT -5
I had problems getting the XDA-1 to output sound from my computer (Windows 7) using USB connection. It saw the device, but did not output any sound. I changed the output device to Speakers USB PNP sound device no dice. So after some searching with google, I downloaded C-Media's drivers & low and behold, I got sound thru the USB connection. The driver file name is C Media v.7.12.8.2144 So I just wanted to share that information, it might help someone. And yes the sample rate goes to 24 bit 96k hz Hey thank you! I finally got around to trying the USB connection to the XDA-1 and had the same problem you did. I read this thread, came across your post, googled the driver name, downloaded and installed it. And voila, sound came forth! ;D How bout a link to that. Thanks. |
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Post by rogerwilco on Dec 19, 2010 13:08:19 GMT -5
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Post by rocky500 on Dec 20, 2010 19:49:24 GMT -5
When I had the XDA-1 in my system it worked well with the drivers it installed automatically. I am using Windows 7 32bit and a Asrock MB. www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=890FX%20Deluxe3I did a manual update for Windows 7 and it had a new driver available for USB I think. This is only available after I have connected the XDA-1. After update Windows 7 would not load again. Had to go back to a backup. I do not have the XDA-1 available at the moment to try again. So be careful if Windows 7 offers a update to a hardware driver after using the XDA-1. Backup first!. |
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Post by rixtergonzo on Dec 21, 2010 14:42:17 GMT -5
What music player app are you using? Where are you reading "ASIO says 96k" from? |
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Post by rogerwilco on Dec 21, 2010 15:48:15 GMT -5
The music player is Foobar2000. It shows the file information in the lower left of the program's window when playing a file. In conjunction with that I am using ASIO4all. It puts an icon down by the clock in the tray, and when you hover over it, it will display the bitrate. I still think the C-Media drivers are down sampling though, just don't know how to prove or disprove it?
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Post by rixtergonzo on Dec 21, 2010 16:10:33 GMT -5
The music player is Foobar2000. It shows the file information in the lower left of the program's window when playing a file. In conjunction with that I am using ASIO4all. It puts an icon down by the clock in the tray, and when you hover over it, it will display the bitrate. I still think the C-Media drivers are down sampling though, just don't know how to prove or disprove it? Then what makes you think it is down sampling? |
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Post by srb on Dec 21, 2010 17:28:07 GMT -5
I still think the C-Media drivers are down sampling though, just don't know how to prove or disprove it? Go into File > Preferences > Playback > Output. With the ASIO driver selected in the Output Device: dropdown, will it let you select 16-bit or 24-bit from the Output Format dropdown, or is it greyed out? If it is greyed out, it is likely downsampling as it says "Output data format will be chosen automatically for the selected device". If you use the WASAPI driver (Windows Vista & Windows 7 only), you will have the option to chose 16-bit or 24-bit and if you choose 24-bit and attempt to play a 24-bit file, you will get a message that the stream format is unsupported. |
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Post by rogerwilco on Dec 21, 2010 18:04:03 GMT -5
I still think the C-Media drivers are down sampling though, just don't know how to prove or disprove it? Go into File > Preferences > Playback > Output. With the ASIO driver selected in the Output Device: dropdown, will it let you select 16-bit or 24-bit from the Output Format dropdown, or is it greyed out? If it is greyed out, it is likely downsampling as it says "Output data format will be chosen automatically for the selected device". I am running XP and it will not let me select the output format when choosing ASIO. It says "Output data format will be chosen automatically for the selected device" |
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Post by rixtergonzo on Dec 21, 2010 20:53:21 GMT -5
I am in Windows 7 using J River Media Center 15 output with ASIO/ASIO4ALL. Before I installed the C Media driver I always got "format unsupported" if I attempted to play a 24/96 file. With the C Media driver it now plays but ASIO4All always shows 48kHz. So I have no clue at least with J River.
Eric at EMO insists that 24/96 plays in Foobar2000. Maybe he has your config and is seeing it as you do and believes that that is what proves that the XDA-1 can play it. Without the XDA-1 "confirming" the rate then who knows? I really think the XDA-1 needs its own driver. The Windows 7 sound device manager only shows the XDA-1 as only capable of 16/48. I am pooped out with all this USB stuff.
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Post by monkumonku on Dec 21, 2010 22:26:31 GMT -5
I am in Windows 7 using J River Media Center 15 output with ASIO/ASIO4ALL. Before I installed the C Media driver I always got "format unsupported" if I attempted to play a 24/96 file. With the C Media driver it now plays but ASIO4All always shows 48kHz. So I have no clue at least with J River. Eric at EMO insists that 24/96 plays in Foobar2000. Maybe he has your config and is seeing it as you do and believes that that is what proves that the XDA-1 can play it. Without the XDA-1 "confirming" the rate then who knows? I really think the XDA-1 needs its own driver. The Windows 7 sound device manager only shows the XDA-1 as only capable of 16/48. I am pooped out with all this USB stuff. I downloaded the driver for Windows 7 from this link (thanks to XYZ1 for originally posting the name of the driver): www.x-drivers.com/catalog/drivers/sound_cards/companies/c-media/models/cm-108/17037.htmlAfter installing it, Windows 7 sound configuration screen gives me various playback options all the way up to 24/96. I am using MediaMonkey. The C-media driver that loads when you plug the XDA-1 into a PC must be an older version, or one that is not made for Windows 7. You need to load a more recent driver in order to get the higher sampling rates. The link I posted above will get you to the right driver. |
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Post by ralfale on Dec 22, 2010 6:45:35 GMT -5
What happen to 192/24 from USB? How do I achieve that on foobar and windows 7?
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Post by rocky500 on Dec 22, 2010 21:03:31 GMT -5
Just put the XDA-1 back in my system.
Now windows 7 offers this upgrade again. This is the one that stopped my Computer from booting again before.
Anyone else update this driver? Is it worth doing the update? Seems a little old as well.
This is only available when I plug in the XDA-1 for the first time.
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C-Media Inc. - Bus Controllers and Ports, Other hardware - USB PnP Sound Device
Download size: 5.0 MB
You may need to restart your computer for this update to take effect.
Update type: Optional
C-Media Inc. Bus Controllers and Ports, Other hardware software update released in June, 2007
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Post by rogerwilco on Dec 23, 2010 4:00:22 GMT -5
Just put the XDA-1 back in my system. Now windows 7 offers this upgrade again. This is the one that stopped my Computer from booting again before. Anyone else update this driver? Is it worth doing the update? Seems a little old as well. This is only available when I plug in the XDA-1 for the first time. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- C-Media Inc. - Bus Controllers and Ports, Other hardware - USB PnP Sound Device Download size: 5.0 MB You may need to restart your computer for this update to take effect. Update type: Optional C-Media Inc. Bus Controllers and Ports, Other hardware software update released in June, 2007 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here are the updated C-Media drivers: www.x-drivers.com/catalog/drivers..../models/cm-108/ |
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Post by rocky500 on Dec 23, 2010 9:13:13 GMT -5
Thanks they went in but I think they are not correct. You now get a setup more like a sound card with options like 5.1 surround 7.1 surround Also I have the XDA-1 connected to to the UMC-1. No matter what setting it is eg. 16 bit, 44100 kHz etc .... the UMC-1 reports Sample Rate 48kHz It locks it too 48kHz no matter what you have in the settings. |
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