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Post by charles nguyen on Mar 5, 2011 23:20:10 GMT -5
I just picked up a nice power cord from Zu audio (zu promos on Ebay) . Plug it in the unit , warm it up for 30 mins and voila great improvement. The vocal/mid range is well-focused and natural, less or no smearing on background instruments. I'm impressed with just the change of power cord. I think it's worth an upgrade.  |
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Post by NorthStar on Mar 5, 2011 23:21:34 GMT -5
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Post by kse on Mar 6, 2011 9:45:16 GMT -5
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Post by turbo on Mar 6, 2011 10:59:52 GMT -5
Is it on a 20amp(12ga) or 15amp(14ga) circuit? Do you have high grade commercial outlets? Just curious.. Common sense seems that plugging a overbuilt 6' cord into a cheap residential outlet and circuit won't make anything better. Unless you have the same quality from the meter to the device.?? But hey if it sounds better then great. |
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Post by DYohn on Mar 6, 2011 11:02:16 GMT -5
A horse just went by and left a couple road apples.... don't step in them.
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Post by geebo on Mar 6, 2011 11:18:30 GMT -5
Is it on a 20amp(12ga) or 15amp(14ga) circuit? Do you have high grade commercial outlets? Just curious.. Common sense seems that plugging a overbuilt 6' cord into a cheap residential outlet and circuit won't make anything better. Unless you have the same quality from the meter to the device.?? But hey if it sounds better then great. Well, when the electricicals get past that residential wiring and outlet, they then have room to grow and expand and get bigger and stronger and procreate and multiply and speed up then hit the XPA with much more vigor and stamina and in greater numbers. Hence the improved sound from the bigger, faster, and more numerous electrons. |
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Post by geebo on Mar 6, 2011 13:29:30 GMT -5
 Ok I get it now. Glad I could help... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2011 14:13:29 GMT -5
Is this delusional or what? Aren't there any audio perfectionists that have any knowledge of electricity and physics? I mean, my education and experience have been in the social sciences and nursing. Given that I am a geek and have been from childhood, just a self-educated one, yet I know that a power cord that isn't so small as to add too much resistance and gets hot to the point of starting to melt (I don't think it would even then) will have no effect on sound quality. Perhaps its another case of my intelligence getting in the way of knowing some cosmic truth about the specialness of these cables. Perhaps a blessing with water and smoke would help.
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Post by monkumonku on Mar 6, 2011 14:59:04 GMT -5
Is it on a 20amp(12ga) or 15amp(14ga) circuit? Do you have high grade commercial outlets? Just curious.. Common sense seems that plugging a overbuilt 6' cord into a cheap residential outlet and circuit won't make anything better. Unless you have the same quality from the meter to the device.?? But hey if it sounds better then great. Well, when the electricicals get past that residential wiring and outlet, they then have room to grow and expand and get bigger and stronger and procreate and multiply and speed up then hit the XPA with much more vigor and stamina. Hence the improved sound from the bigger, faster, and more numerous electrons. Just keep in mind that you have to observe the directional arrows on the cord because if you do it the other way around then the little electro-happy faces get smaller and less energetic and soon lose their will to do anything except make unhappy faces (and in rare cases become suicidal and set themselves on fire). You also want to make sure you get not just a 3D cord (which enables the electro-zens to move in 3 dimensions) but it has to be a 4D cord that time aligns them. Otherwise some will sprint to the other side of the cord and others will take their time and what will happen is your sound will be fuzzy. I have heard the difference between a mere 3D cord and a 4D cord and let me tell you, it is astonishing. |
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Post by geebo on Mar 6, 2011 15:11:24 GMT -5
Well, when the electricicals get past that residential wiring and outlet, they then have room to grow and expand and get bigger and stronger and procreate and multiply and speed up then hit the XPA with much more vigor and stamina. Hence the improved sound from the bigger, faster, and more numerous electrons. Just keep in mind that you have to observe the directional arrows on the cord because if you do it the other way around then the little electro-happy faces get smaller and less energetic and soon lose their will to do anything except make unhappy faces (and in rare cases become suicidal and set themselves on fire). You also want to make sure you get not just a 3D cord (which enables the electro-zens to move in 3 dimensions) but it has to be a 4D cord that time aligns them. Otherwise some will sprint to the other side of the cord and others will take their time and what will happen is your sound will be fuzzy. I have heard the difference between a mere 3D cord and a 4D cord and let me tell you, it is astonishing. I'm glad you added the directional facet which I totally forgot about. If forced to go the wrong direction, it can also cause sterility which, of course, will have a negative impact on the increase in electron population. Kinda like salmon only in reverse... And as for the 4D, we all know that they like to procreate at certain times and without that added dimension, the electron population bang is not what it otherwise could be. |
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Post by monkumonku on Mar 6, 2011 15:36:52 GMT -5
Just keep in mind that you have to observe the directional arrows on the cord because if you do it the other way around then the little electro-happy faces get smaller and less energetic and soon lose their will to do anything except make unhappy faces (and in rare cases become suicidal and set themselves on fire). You also want to make sure you get not just a 3D cord (which enables the electro-zens to move in 3 dimensions) but it has to be a 4D cord that time aligns them. Otherwise some will sprint to the other side of the cord and others will take their time and what will happen is your sound will be fuzzy. I have heard the difference between a mere 3D cord and a 4D cord and let me tell you, it is astonishing. I'm glad you added the directional facet which I totally forgot about. If forced to go the wrong direction, it can also cause sterility which, of course, will have a negative impact on the increase in electron population. Kinda like salmon only in reverse... And as for the 4D, we all know that they like to procreate at certain times and without that added dimension, the electron population bang is not what it otherwise could be. Thanks for the additional clarification, George! I especially like that salmon analogy. Now, you buy the wrong kind of power cord and it becomes more like lemmings. |
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Post by charles nguyen on Mar 6, 2011 16:51:00 GMT -5
oh endless discussion.... try the new power cord for yourself. let your ears be the judge. If you can't hear the difference you can always return it. ;D
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Post by bobbyt on Mar 6, 2011 21:31:03 GMT -5
I just picked up a nice power cord from Zu audio (zu promos on Ebay) . Plug it in the unit , warm it up for 30 mins and voila great improvement. The vocal/mid range is well-focused and natural, less or no smearing on background instruments. I'm impressed with just the change of power cord. I think it's worth an upgrade.  |
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Post by azsoundman on Mar 7, 2011 3:09:40 GMT -5
Hey You Guys, Their is some real science here. What really happens is, buy improving Both the gauge & the construction of the materials used equals less 'stress' on the power supply so amplifiers do run a little
cooler. The net result is a very small 'change' in SPL, which you Can hear, but being louder it is incorrectly
identifiied as 'better sounding' or described as providing better detail, a more open soundstage, etc. The same result happens in both a 15 amp or 20 amp circuit. NO, I do not believe in $100 dollar power cords,
but in reality it can allow both an increase in amperage and response time. Heres a good analogy; The stock exhaust system in most vechicles restricts the exhaust 'flow' when it combines both sides of the
engine into a single muffler and out a single tailpipe. Now when a dual exhaust system is used, each side
of the engine is allowed to vent independently from each other, better acceleration and 'performance' so to speak. We did NOT change the 'engine' at all (your amplifier) but we Did give it a 'better' way (your power cord) to both expell its waste and lower its pressure with less restrictions. If you take a stock 16G
power cord and change it to a 12 or 13 guage power cord, You Will Hear what I explained above. We all know any non shielded cord or cable just becomes an 'Antenna for RF interference' which Does have an effect on the current or signal passing thru the line. So the use of 'multi-stranded' pure Copper or Silver, along with an increase of gauge and better RF protection, can at the very least, make a difference in that last 'leg' of transmission. So, my thoughts are to take a trip down to your local Electrical Supply House, and give it a try. The Good thing is your spending perhaps $20 to $30 dollars, NOT $200 or $300, for cosmetics and 'bragging rights'. If your Line Source Filter and Surge protector, has dedicated 'outlets' for
both Analog and Digital filtering, along with a 'High Power' (current) section, and uses a 'standard' power cord that is removable from the unit, Try upgrading and replacing that first. We all have our own opinions
on 'What will actually 'improve' our system performance, and at what price your willing to pay for it.
Now Here is My main point; NO one has the right to treat another person (especially someone 'new' to the fourm) with the amount of Disrespect YOU guys did on another member who YES has a Right to share his or her opinion about 'tweeks' to their system. You may choose to disagree with them, but the
sarcasm and BS that was given here, is UNCALLED For Period. Do YOU actually think this person will EVER
return to the fourm after being treated like THAT? Especially someone who is perhaps 'new' to High End Gear, and is happy to find 'others' like himself, Only to be ridiculed by a bunch of Snobs, Know it alls, being
totally disrespectful to another persons right to speak? Do You Think He Will Come Back or even now consider buying from EMOTIVA, So YOU Hurt The Company Itself, Nice Job Boys, and I DO mean 'Boys'
NOT men... Remember that first time You set foot into your local High End Dealer, and got either TOTALY
Ignored, or even worse treated with so much 'attitude' you had to leave with your 'tail between your legs'
thinking 'It Must Be Me'? We have a 'private message' option, that you should use If you want to 'Pull This Crap' instead of treating another user like 'S--T'. Remember, At sometime, We ALL were the 'New Guy'...
How Would That make YOU Feel? I'm embarrassed to even admit, I'm an EMOTIVA client, after that BS.
Challenge anyones Ideas or Philosophy, engage in a 'healthy debate' but do not call anyone 'stupid' just because you do not agree.They have as Much Right to Share their ideas and experiences as YOU do.
How do YOU Think Vince or Rachel or Big Dan, Cathy, Lonnie or Sarah would Feel reading your remarks,
YOU Hurt Not Only EMOTIVA, but everyone else in the Audio Community. Quit acting like a bunch of
'Snot Nosed Spoiled Brats'
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Post by NorthStar on Mar 7, 2011 3:31:01 GMT -5
Sounds to me that so far only the OP (Charles), me (Bob), and AZsoundman all three of us agree. ... And even if I know that the other members don't mean to be mean, it does remind me of Audioholics type of mentality at times. * Charles, you are perfectly right; your ears don't lie to you. ____________________ Woooooo, watch out now for the replies Bob & AZsoundman!  ;D |
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Post by ronm1 on Mar 7, 2011 4:48:07 GMT -5
Sounds to me that so far only the OP (Charles), me (Bob), and AZsoundman all three of us agree. ... And even if I know that the other members don't mean to be mean, it does remind me of Audioholics type of mentality at times. * Charles, you are perfectly right; your ears don't lie to you. ____________________ Woooooo, watch out now for the replies Bob & AZsoundman! ;D Bob you can add me to your group!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2011 6:04:30 GMT -5
Add me I love my Nordost XLR's and Kimber Kables |
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Post by cgolf on Mar 7, 2011 6:29:49 GMT -5
Add me I love my Nordost XLR's and Kimber Kables kraemerkid, Here I would have to agree with you on the Kimber cables. If Kimber cables are anything like their 1911s, then they must make better cables!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D |
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Post by cgolf on Mar 7, 2011 6:31:47 GMT -5
oh endless discussion.... try the new power cord for yourself. let your ears be the judge. If you can't hear the difference you can always return it. ;D I think they'll examine the cord for thickness, speed, volume and change in sound since it's used. Any degradation will go towards your restocking fees................... |
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Ok I get it now. 
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