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Post by geebo on Jul 13, 2012 20:47:44 GMT -5
Seriously, if you *REALLY* want to see what those subs can do - get a Blu-ray of the movie "Super 8" and play the train wreak scene! (Which is about 18 minutes into the movie). Wow. I put that in right after Underworld! WOW is an understatement! ;D Have you had a chance to listen to 'em with some good music yet?
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LCSeminole
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Post by LCSeminole on Jul 13, 2012 22:05:41 GMT -5
I put that in right after Underworld! WOW is an understatement! ;D Have you had a chance to listen to 'em with some good music yet? Hey George, I've been playing around with placement and found that the front two corners of my room have worked best so far. As far as music, I've listened to the Jeff Beck: Live @ Ronnie Scotts blu-ray. Talk about lots of clean bass, WOW! Tomorrow I'm going to give some of my favorite cd's a spin and I have a feeling I'll be just as impressed.
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Post by Chuck.E.Darwin on Sept 25, 2012 18:49:51 GMT -5
Very informative, long running thread. There are a number of disagreements, but IMO even opposing arguments are mostly right. For Emo to Emo comparisons, I agree that a 12 inch sub is going to be better than a 10 inch, and 2 subs will be better than 1. As several folks pointed out, you have more control and can dial down the subs if they are too raucous. And I do find that, for certain sounds, the location of the sub is obvious. Two subs would eliminate that problem. But I would take a single good 10 inch sub in a well-designed enclosure over 1 or 2 or 4 big box store 12 inch subs in flimsy cabinets, and, in some oddly shaped rooms, two subs of the same brand are going behave like two different speakers as they have different surfaces that will reflect or absorb their outputs. Under such circumstances, the sound can be fairly muddy. If you like tight, musical output, without artificial reverberations, you might be better off with one sub in a well-placed location. You are also going to get different results depending on the low frequency extension of your main speakers. I have B&W Nautilus 805s accompanied by a vintage 10 inch REL Strata II near the corner of a long and narrow room (22 x 13 ft). Per REL dogma, the mains take the same signal as the sub, with the sub starting to kick in at 50 to 60 hz. It is a classic you-don't-hear-it-until-the-soundtrack demands it kind of sub, and, when you do need it, the sub's output is quite ample. The volume is barely turned past 1/3 of its rotation. I do not get much output below 20hz, and, in a larger, open space, I expect that the sub would be inadequate. However, in its current domain, the sound is very accurate--and, even through the brick wall separating the rooms, the sub provides useful augmentation for a pair of Airmotiv 4s in my living room.
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